not negotiable ... anything to do with guns
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Hmmm, in an effort to not get banned and to keep from a thread lock/delete, I will abstain from comment.
Been out of the media loop most of the weekend. As a result, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Can you catch us (me) up to speed?
Pretty sure Mike is being proactive and letting the guys know there will be a no tolerance policy if any player feels compelled to use a gun.
Probably best not to "bring your gun to town" if you are an NU FB player.
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Why doesn't he just take them and hide them in his desk?
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Actually they can own guns legally. I respect his stance.
I've heard rumors that he drove a Prius, and (gasp!) rode his bike to work...
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Any coward that uses a gun to commit a criminal act should be dealt with swiftly, and very harsh. Any true supporter of the 2nd ammendment will feel the same.
He is, but he is correct in this instance. Players should say anyone that drives a Prius has to use Gender Neutral Lockers.
dont take your guns to town son.
leave you guns at home bill
dont take your guns to town.
HCMR doesn't like killing with a crescent wrench either, but Gangwish grandfathered in before the rule was enacted.
I don't know why this is even political. No one is for using guns in an illegal way to commit crimes, which is what Riley is setting the no tolerance policy for.
It's not political. I actually think that it's pretty amazing that the thread made it 8 posts before someone attempted to make it so.
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Mine too. 1998 was a great year for cinema. Saw both Rushmore and The Big Lebowski in the theater and was instantly hooked.
Let's see, no sarcasm, no hidden agenda. Mostly just questions, that are directed at the OP.
Is a coach responsible for the players' actions? Is a coach responsible for assigning punishment? If a coach has a "no tolerance/good citizen" policy, is a one-game suspension hypocritical? If no one is tried and found guilty, does a coach punish for an alleged crime or a case where no charges were pressed? Should a coach use punishment where players "invite" or "look for" trouble? Does "non negotiable" carry the slightest meaning if it's only words and there are no actions (or limited actions) to back them up?
Hypothetical scenario where you are the coach, some 4th stringers share an apartment. They decide or maybe just allow a small party to happen at their apartment after a game. The next day, a woman is filing rape charges, claiming to be raped at the 4th stringers apartment, but the accused rapist is not one of the 4th stringers. You (the coach) find out about the incident a couple days later in a staff meeting. You are the coach, what do you do?
In this case, and any others, I don't know if there is a right answer.
Is a coach responsible for the players' actions? Is a coach responsible for assigning punishment? If a coach has a "no tolerance/good citizen" policy, is a one-game suspension hypocritical? If no one is tried and found guilty, does a coach punish for an alleged crime or a case where no charges were pressed? Should a coach use punishment where players "invite" or "look for" trouble? Does "non negotiable" carry the slightest meaning if it's only words and there are no actions (or limited actions) to back them up?
Hypothetical scenario where you are the coach, some 4th stringers share an apartment. They decide or maybe just allow a small party to happen at their apartment after a game. The next day, a woman is filing rape charges, claiming to be raped at the 4th stringers apartment, but the accused rapist is not one of the 4th stringers. You (the coach) find out about the incident a couple days later in a staff meeting. You are the coach, what do you do?
In this case, and any others, I don't know if there is a right answer.
Big Lebowski is probably tied for my favorite Coen brothers flick, with Raising Arizona.
This really shouldn't be a problem seeing as how UNL is a gun free campus.
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Easy. Contact the victim directly and bully her into not pressing charges. You have to do it multiple times to drive the point home. Then you hide Tyrone's gun until you can "figure out what really happened".
I don't know. I'm guessing Riley was referring to guns combined with criminal activity. Riley said "non negotiable", but one would have to infer whether punishment (if any) would be severe or lax.
Not discussing right or wrong, fair or unfair. The OJ trials (note the "s") marked a turning point in victim's rights imo. OJ was found "not guilty" in the criminal case, but later there's the civil case judgement and order to pay. High profile cases, maybe a change in how our society views things, maybe crimes did happen even if no one is found guilty.
I assume that you are being facetious, since the evidence that came out during Kevin's Steele's defamation action against Gary Lacey established that both the LPD and the UNL police knew where the gun was within minutes of Williams turning it over to Steele. The police officer that Steele spoke with that early morning asked him to hold onto it until it could be retrieved by the police. Out of an abundance of caution Steele called the UNL police immediately after hanging up with the LPD to tell them that he had a gun on campus. The only issue came when a detective showed up to pick up the gun a couple of days later, only to find that Steele was out of town collecting signed LOI's (common practice back then; the Williams' shooting occurred over the night of 1/31-2/1/94) and the cabinet/desk holding the gun was locked (the evidence never was clear whether the gun was in a cabinet or desk drawer). The only other person who had a key was a secretary who was away from her desk when the detective arrived. The detective was so concerned about retrieving the gun that he didn't bother to wait for the secretary to return, but left and came back a couple of days later and retrieved the gun then.
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Sounds fantastic. Great story. I know it's acceptable because games were won.
Shortly someone will be along to tell us it was ok to confront rape victims.
I'm not making judgment calls on conduct. Just pointing out that you were egregiously wrong.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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Sounds fantastic. Great story. I know it's acceptable because games were won.
Shortly someone will be along to tell us it was ok to confront rape victims.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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As long as he quotes the court's documentation consisting of affidavits submitted under oath, depositions taken under oath, and transcripts of 9-1-1 tapes that all show that Gary Lacey's claim that the gun was hidden was so much BS asserted by a DA who was still pissed that TO refused to support his political goals, well that would be an interesting book. I also assume that it would include Lacey's later admission that he was wrong about TO being involved in any way, that it was actually Steele who was involved. An admission that Sports illustrated somehow didn't see fit to print, at least to the best of my knowledge.
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