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No Wonder the Defense was a Mess

WTF? Man. No individual practice time with the coaches? Shoulder pads and shorts?
 
Diaco was an idiot. He got all the credit in the world for making that Notre Dame defense with Manti Te'o and Louis Nix what it was when it was always Brian Kelly doing the lions share of the work. On the bright side he got Riley canned which got us Frost so it's not all that bad in the end.
 
My god. Listening to this whole thing is soooooo painful. McBride asked Riley why the scout team DBs don't try to strip the ball from the receivers? Riley: "I'll have to look into that". When Cavanaugh was asked why he doesn't rotate his line, he says "I only get 5 ready to play". This is just criminal. So painful listening to this and only 1/2 way through it.
 
Listening to the interview with Charlie now. So it seems that Diaco is not much of a teacher. You can have the greatest scheme in the world, but if your players are not developed, the execution of that scheme will suck.
Back in the day, getting reps was the coin of the realm. Too much standing around is bad for football development.
 
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My god. Listening to this whole thing is soooooo painful. McBride asked Riley why the scout team DBs don't try to strip the ball from the receivers? Riley: "I'll have to look into that". When Cavanaugh was asked why he doesn't rotate his line, he says "I only get 5 ready to play". This is just criminal. So painful listening to this and only 1/2 way through it.
Cav was worse than the claims of his harshest critics. It is possible we see substantially improved line play next year.
 
Listen around 59 minutes about recruiting against the SEC and T.O.'s thoughts on what a coach should be doing. Puts paid to the myth that no one can recruit in the south just cause it is so lovely to live there.
 
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Amen to all. TC
Listen around 59 minutes about recruiting against the SEC and T.O.'s thoughts on what a coach should be doing. Puts paid to the myth that no one can recruit in the south just cause it is so lovely to live there.

It will be difficult to get in a Beauty Pageant with teams like Bama, Florida, LSU for 4 and 5 stars in their backyard, but Frost has a lot of swag and can probably convince a few Mamas down here to send their kids north to a safe, Midwestern environment. Those kids tend to be hard-nosed, workman like in their attitude and effort. Just takes a helluva lot of work. GBR
 
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McBride asked Riley why the scout team DBs don't try to strip the ball from the receivers? Riley: "I'll have to look into that".

I am dumbfounded at this piece.

It's one thing to be a hands-off CEO. Which is the approach Riley took as HC. Nothing wrong with that; it can work, Mack Brown (as one example) made it to the top of the mountain eventually that way.

But any of those guys worth a damn sets expectations, sets the vision, sets the tone, and has an idea what's going on in HIS program. If you're not doing those basic things, and you're managing hands-off, your serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

Honest to God, outside of recruiting, hiring / firing assistants, and smiling for the camera, I can't put my finger on a single thing Riley ever "did" as a football coach here.

He didn't coach players. He didn't call plays. He wasn't involved with the defense. He was a wallflower on gameday.

I like him. I think he's a good person. I'm not sure how you are a coach with that much experience and let the coaches and players in the program just do whatever -- without setting the tone and having a basic idea of what your assistants are teaching and why.
 
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It is truly sad listening to what was said. They literally wasted opportunities for kids and stole money in the process. Most of these kids were probably better prepared in high school than they were here.
 
Good listen. Thanks for sharing. No words for that. How come we never heard this before from those that attend practice?
As I've posted several times before. I don't think we can judge our defensive assistants based on what we saw in games. The assistants were at the mercy of how our coordinators ran practice and how they dictated our coaching other than maybe the specific coach Charlie mentions. Makes me feel bad for JP. He never had a chance really.
 
I am dumbfounded at this piece.

It's one thing to be a hands-off CEO. Which is the approach Riley took as HC. Nothing wrong with that; it can work, Mack Brown (as one example) made it to the top of the mountain eventually that way.

But any of those guys worth a damn sets expectations, sets the vision, sets the tone, and has an idea what's going on in HIS program. If you're not doing those basic things, and you're managing hands-off, your serve absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

Honest to God, outside of recruiting, hiring / firing assistants, and smiling for the camera, I can't put my finger on a single thing Riley ever "did" as a football coach here.

He didn't coach players. He didn't call plays. He wasn't involved with the defense. He was a wallflower on gameday.

I like him. I think he's a good person. I'm not sure how you are a coach with that much experience and let the coaches and players in the program just do whatever -- without setting the tone and having a basic idea of what your assistants are teaching and why.
Exactly, you could have picked anyone out of the stadium and have them stand on the sidelines on game days and no one would have noticed the difference.
 
No wonder why practices were always closed to the public and only a select few "Tow the Company Line" people were ever allowed to see it. Thank God that Turd Show is gone.
 
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WTF? Man. No individual practice time with the coaches? Shoulder pads and shorts?
Did I or did I not tell you that they look like a team that doesn't hit in practice? Going out there on Saturdays looking like they had no idea somebody was gonna try to smack into them.
 
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Well, the one bright side of all this is it makes it seems like the issues weren't really with the players and they don't suck as bad as they look on Saturdays. The question is, can you really fix what has been for some of them, 3 years of bad or no coaching?
 
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Well, the one bright side of all this is it makes it seems like the issues weren't really with the players and they don't suck as bad as they look on Saturdays. The question is, can you really fix what has been for some of them, 3 years of bad or no coaching?
Not in a single year, no. Which is why that notorious "year two bump" exists where you typically see a big improvement from year one to year two.

Hopefully the message is sinking in that if you wanna play football on Saturdays, you'd better play some damn football on Monday and Tuesday. Acting like you can play patty cake all week and then just go switch it on for the game is unrealistic.
 
Cav was worse than the claims of his harshest critics. It is possible we see substantially improved line play next year.
That is what I am hoping. I know many think we will be lucky to win 5 or 6 games next year (me included). Many experts have said this team has talent they just couldn't figure out why we were having such a hard time. Sounding more and more like it was 100% coaches. We get a good coaching staff in here and these guys could turn around quicker than most of us think.
 
Well, the one bright side of all this is it makes it seems like the issues weren't really with the players and they don't suck as bad as they look on Saturdays. The question is, can you really fix what has been for some of them, 3 years of bad or no coaching?
Yes you can fix it, can you get players to an elite level to win a national title in a year, probably not. Take a kid like Nick Gates, he played at Bishop Gorman in high school and I guarantee you that he was better coached there than he was here.
 
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Not in a single year, no. Which is why that notorious "year two bump" exists where you typically see a big improvement from year one to year two.

Hopefully the message is sinking in that if you wanna play football on Saturdays, you'd better play some damn football on Monday and Tuesday. Acting like you can play patty cake all week and then just go switch it on for the game is unrealistic.
If you look at how our offensive line played this year, I think that's exactly what happened. We have talented players on our O line. The starters knew they were never going to be benched by Cav so they didn't practice hard throughout the week. You can't just switch it on on game day even if you wanted to and that's why it looks like they don't care at all when getting beat constantly.
 
Diaco was an idiot. He got all the credit in the world for making that Notre Dame defense with Manti Te'o and Louis Nix what it was when it was always Brian Kelly doing the lions share of the work. On the bright side he got Riley canned which got us Frost so it's not all that bad in the end.
Why does Riley get a pass? He was overseeing this. He is a nice guy, so I guess there is that...
 
Why does Riley get a pass? He was overseeing this. He is a nice guy, so I guess there is that...
I think the Riley hire was great, Frost said it himself that he would not have taken the job three years ago. Shawn Eichorst in all his glory knew that Mike Riley would shit the bed in year three and that he would be fired allowing us to hire a new AD and then get Frost. Without the brilliance of SE we would not be where we are today. Riley knew that all he needed to do was let Scott get some experience as a HC and then we could hand off the program to Scott so that he could then head back to OSU.Laughing
 
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I'm ecstatic Riley & his entire circus are gone, all were terrible hires... done by total incompetents.
It just blows my mind how such a large percentage on this board are feeling so warm hearted that Mike Riley is coaching again with a big chunk of Husker money in his back pocket and are quite OK with his complete miss management of this program. If I was ever inclined to set up a scam – this would be one of the first places I would come and be a nice guy.
 
I think the Riley hire was great, Frost said it himself that he would not have taken the job three years ago. Shawn Eichorst in all his glory knew that Mike Riley would shit the bed in year three and that he would be fired allowing us to hire a new AD and then get Frost. Without the brilliance of SE we would not be where we are today. Riley knew that all he needed to do was let Scott get some experience as a HC and then we could hand off the program to Scott so that he could then head back to OSU.Laughing
LOL!!! Bottom line is we have a competent coach now and that is a good thing!
 
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Charlie must not disappoint. Publicly and privately supports Riley, till he's fired, then shares some questionable stuff while not recognizing it during his support.

I remember back in September when Charlie said Diaco's defense will get better.

Good old Charlie...
 
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