No more satellite camps
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Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I would just bet the SEC and maybe the Pac-12 greased some palms to get that done.
Jeez, for an institution that supposedly is looking out for student athletes the NCAA sure seems to take the option that favors big money interests a lot...
I'm sure it is against the rules but I wonder if virtual unofficial visits would be possible. Stream a practice (position group specific) to the high school or home of an interested recruit and allow them to observe/interact with the coaches.
The NCAA needs to consider what is best for the potential athletes/recruits. More exposure = more choices and more information in order to make the best choice. It is a huge decision for these recruits anything that can aid in making sure the school and athlete are a good match should be supported
The NCAA needs to consider what is best for the potential athletes/recruits. More exposure = more choices and more information in order to make the best choice. It is a huge decision for these recruits anything that can aid in making sure the school and athlete are a good match should be supported
Our own SE sits on the Football Oversight Committee which approved the changes - wonder if he bothered to voice any objections.
Where college football is concerned, the NCAA is like an appendix. Useful for nothing and easily lived without. Time to break away and create a league - let's just admit what it is
True. But if the power 5 schools formed their own governing body the vote (assuming 1 vote per school) would still highly favor southern schools
Fortunately for us, Riley and staff have great relationships with California high schools and are painting California red in 2016 and 2017 classes and the future is looking good there for acquiring top talent in SoCal and the Bay Area. The $outhern states, however, are a different story. DiCaprio Bootle came from one of the satellite camps. This is frickin' stupid that the N¢AA banned these camps. This tells me that our staff will have an even tougher time in FL, LA, TX, AL, and GA because $EC schools lock those kids up when they are sophs and juniors in high school. Might as well start evaluating 2019 and kids...and we all know how reliable kids' tapes are at that age. How dumb is this that the N¢AA acts immediately to this problem, and hardly quick at all to academic fraud, problems with the law, etc. What a joke.
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"The Council approved a proposal applicable to the Football Bowl Subdivision that would require those schools to conduct camps and clinics at their school's facilities or at facilities regularly used for practice or competition."
No problem, just send a group, like the wide receivers out to Calabasas four times a year to hold "regular" practices, then hold an annual camp there. Do the same for the running backs to a high school in Texas.
No problem, just send a group, like the wide receivers out to Calabasas four times a year to hold "regular" practices, then hold an annual camp there. Do the same for the running backs to a high school in Texas.
The biggest victims in all this are the kids trying to get the attention of non-power 5 schools. For decades the camps at bigger schools have been staffed by other local schools that the host school didn't feel were a recruiting threat (for example Michigan's camp has had coaches from the MAC going back at least 30 years if not more). Over the years thousands and thousands of kids have been discovered this way and have gotten to go to college because of it. The result of this is an attack on the kids and not on the bigger Northern programs who the SEC is trying to harm.
What a bunch of shit. This is bad for the kids and bad for CFB as a whole. It only benefits schools in states that an abundance of local talent. The NCAA hasn't had my respect for awhile and this just validates my convictions.
What the sec wants the sec gets it's ridiculous how the ncaa bends over so easily for them. The NCAA and sec have ruined cfb.
The SEC is so far up the NCAA's fourth point of contact that the NCAA logo actually looks likes this now: nScEaCa...not hard to tell who is dictating to whom.
Harbaugh screwed this up by having spring practice over spring break down in Florida.
I'm not sure Nebraska is going be offered any big recruiting advantages if the power 5 schools band together.
The big ten was the only power 5 conference that voted to continue the camps. The ACC, PAC, SEC, BIG 12 all voted against. If the power 5 form their own organization Nebraska for the most part is still going be on the wrong side of many votes.
The satellite camps or any other perceived advantage that the northern schools might take of advantage of can be voted down by the power 5 schools with or without the NCAA
The big ten was the only power 5 conference that voted to continue the camps. The ACC, PAC, SEC, BIG 12 all voted against. If the power 5 form their own organization Nebraska for the most part is still going be on the wrong side of many votes.
The satellite camps or any other perceived advantage that the northern schools might take of advantage of can be voted down by the power 5 schools with or without the NCAA
The PAC12, ACC, and BIG12 along with the SEC all voted against. The big ten was the only major conference to vote for
and all of those conferences have some schools that are considered "southern" while the B1G has only northern schools.
Did any other conference even do satellite camps?
Okay, so the University can purchase the football field of a high school in Florida, one in SoCal, and one in Texas and those fields will become part of the University's facilities...correct?
Then just charge those high schools a small amount of rent to use them.
Or is there some rule that campus facilities must be within so many miles of each other?
Agree. I am strongly in favor of these camps. My point is that many are arguing that doing away with the NCAA will fix everything or that this is all a result of SEC influence which is not the case. If the power 5 conferences decide to make a go of it outside the NCAA the southern and west coast schools will strongly dictate how things are run. The northern schools will be at just as big of a disadvantage if not bigger than they are currently.
I think you may be right here. Harbaugh seemed kind if obnoxious about his camp at IMG Academy.
Yep, they put his smug ass in his place, and now Nebraska loses out on a good thing.
Ummm...no...you are welcome to blame Harbaugh but this wasn't because of the IMG camp. Today was put into motion before Michigan even announced or even planned to go down to IMG (btw, IMG floated the idea of that to tOSU first...they said no...Michigan said yes). The new rule was written word for word last fall. That fact was known by the AFCA meeting in the beginning of January when it started leaking to more than insiders.
Never said it was about the IMG camp causing the revent ruling. But when you come off as being obnoxious then that's not going to help your cause.
The NCAA isn't thinking of he future student athlete and what's best for them instead the SEC ended up crying enough to only be benefiting their conference.
again - the ACC, PAC12 and BIG12 also voted against these camps -the big ten was the ONLY major conference to support
"The NCAA said Friday that a proposal by the ACC to forbid universities to use secondary sites for camps had been approved, and that satellite camps would end immediately. According to a sourced report by ESPN, the Big Ten, AAC, C-USA and MAC voted to keep the camps, while the ACC, Big 12, SEC, Pac-12, MWC and Sun Belt voted for the proposal to ban them."
each power 5 conference vote counts for 2 votes while the midmajor vote counts as 1
these camps were defeated by a vote of 10-5
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If teams Purdue, Indiana or any other bottom dweller was doing the camps no one would've taken noticed. Its because brands like Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State did it, the SEC perceives those traditional powers as threats.
These conferences all voted against it because they have built in recruiting advantages.
These conferences all voted against it because they have built in recruiting advantages.
Realize some other conference didn't vote in favor for it and should have pointed that out also,but the SEC was the first conference that made an issue of it from the get go.
And obvious Harbaugh taking a spring practice week to Florida didn't help out matters.
You responded to a post that said "Harbaugh screwed this up by having spring practice over spring break..." by saying "I think you might be right here." It was pretty clear what you meant and you are absolutely wrong. If you think actually someone knowing what they are talking about is being obnoxious then so be it. In January the ACC put forth proposal 2015-59-FBS and the SEC put forth proposal 2015-60-FBS. The combination of which was what was ratified yesterday. These proposals were drafted last fall, presented to the administrations of the schools in those two conferences last fall and if you are to believe what some are saying the lobbying of other conferences (and back door deals) probably started last fall.
So no...this all would have happened even if Michigan didn't even consider going to Florida...now if you had said if Harbaugh didn't do his "Summer Swarm" (last summer) this might not have happened then you might have a point...but it's not like Harbaugh invented it...he just became the face of it.
Not sure if we've heard the last of this issue. Seems like the NCAA is overreaching with this rule change. Wouldn't be surprised if there are lawsuits filed, if that is even possible.
I know what I meant when I was typing what I did. Sorry you misunderstood what I typed. Maybe I could have been clearer so my bad, but what I stated isn't false as it's a matter of opinion.
Basically these satellite camps didn't gain much attention (via mainstream media) until Harbaugh got involved. Not saying Harbaugh was in the wrong, but how he responded and his comments were just adding fuel to the fire (in my opinion).
I think I read it wrong as well.
So I take it you mean this:
Yes, all of this started last fall, but with so much attention this spring by JH, maybe that helped push the votes to one side vs the other, whereas before all of that attention, maybe the vote wouldn't necessarily have gone the way it did.
Good point.
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