Nick Bahe interview with Matt Schick ESPN U

[starhusker]

Fwd to 8:20

Nick Bahe interview Matt Schick regarding college recruiting and state of Nebraska football.

1. Last 6 years on Recruiting Nation show on Espn U they ran a stat and each national champion has had a top 10 recruiting class average of the previous 4 leading up to the national championship game. Clemson was the lowest in the top 10 class.
2. Ohio State in 7 yrs will finish above Michigan and has beat them 5 times.
3. Alabama looking a top 3 class the 10th straight year.
4. Star ratings matter for those who says that rating systems don't matter.
5. Nebraska needs to finish strong in last few days that's remaining and right now they're looking at a class outside the top 25 - top 30.
6. Schools that recruit well usually wins and Nebraska has not done well on both recruiting and winning the big games.
7. Bo Pelini classes averaged around 24th since he was at Nebraska.
8. Nebraska Recruting Rankings from 2013-2016, 23 39 31 26.
9. For Nebraska if we don't get the elite players we need to have elite level coaches if we want to win a National Championship.
10. Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and Maryland has a class ranked higher than Nebraska.
11. Unless the stars align, and you get that great quarterback and that above average defense to elite level defense like they had in 2009, that is going to be a challenge for a school like Nebraska to cast a recruiting from California to Florida and for a program who's best days are 15 years in the rear view mirror, it becomes a big challenge to convince kids to leave home and go 500-1500 miles away from home to play for program where it's unlikely you're going to win a championship.
12. Mike Riley needs to put a winner on the field soon if Nebraska wants to be relevant in national picture and be in the top 10-15 in recruiting very soon so for those who says we don't need those top 4 and 5 stars recruits to win than they must be mistaken. 2 and 3 star players will keep you in the middle of the pack.

 

[spartanhusker]

I'm stunned at all this!!!! #Captainobvious

 

[DerHusker]

 

[headcard]

Bahe thinks we are looking at a class outside the Top 30? Right now we are 17th on Scout (I know I am cherry picking the highest one).

 

[starhusker]

Don't matter if we're 17 in scouts.

Top 10 class and good coaching =
possible trip to national championship game
and that's not going happen anytime soon here at Nebraska unless you're optimistic at we're at now.

 

[c3ntral08]

Idk why people are saying this is obvious. I was arguing with posters on here 8 yrs ago telling people stars mattered and bo was a trash recruiter. But I didn't know as much as the staff. All those diamonds in the rough really panned out.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Our recruiting is going to end much higher than 25-30 I think. The rest of the interview just looks like boilerplate stuff and not real enlightening.

 

[Nate004]

Its almost like there was a reason I keep saying anything outside the top 15 is not going to cut it long term.

 

[chicolby]

I don't think anyone is going to say "we want average athletes". I might suggest that a final rating, whether it is 17 or 23 isn't going to make or break the team. These are qualitative, subjective ratings and as we can see they vary a great deal from service to service. No one is going to say no to a top 5 recruiting class, but teams do rise up thanks to quality coaching staffs. Take Washington for example. No, they didn't win the National Championship, but they were in the playoffs and their last four recruiting classes were ranked:

2013: 18
2014: 37
2015: 31
2016: 37

In contrast, Clemson's classes were ranked:

2013: 14
2014: 13
2015: 4
2016: 6

Clemson, however had started winning games before this run and also ponied up for big-boy assistant coaches around this time. Nebraska has just followed suit. If Nebraska can start to compete with its current players and start to move up into the top 15, I think we could see a similar pattern emerge. Remember, Dabo was 10-4 in 2011, then 11-2 in 2012. Nebraska is going to need a couple 10+ win seasons to help with the recruiting so recruits see something positive happening.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

And then they made out.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Or had phone-sex.

 

[WuTang_Husker]

Don't matter if we're 17 in scouts.
Top 10 class and good coaching =
possible trip to national championship game
and that's not going happen anytime soon here at Nebraska unless you're optimistic at we're at now.

How about we focus on winning the west division before we start talking about national titles. Right now we are in a position recruiting wise to start dominating the teams in our division, then we can move on to winning the conference and then we can start talking playoffs. There is a natural progression to these things.

 

[spartanhusker]

And then they made out.

ok...I laughed....

 

[starhusker]

Like Matt Schick said, for a program who's best days are 15 years in the rear view mirror, it becomes a big challenge to convince high 4 star and 5 star kids to leave home and go 500-1500 miles in the middle of the country away from home to play for program where it's unlikely you're going to win a championship.

 

[HuskerNorm]

"5. Nebraska needs to finish strong in last few days that's remaining and right now they're looking at a class outside the top 25 - top 30."

Stopped reading after this because that is just LAUGHABLE. Unless we start getting massive de-commit numbers we aren't finishing outside the top 25.

 

[starhusker]

"5. Nebraska needs to finish strong in last few days that's remaining and right now they're looking at a class outside the top 25 - top 30."

Stopped reading after this because that is just LAUGHABLE. Unless we start getting massive de-commit numbers we aren't finishing outside the top 25.

Laughable? Doesn't matter, we won't be in
top 10-15 class.

 

[starhusker]

Laughable? Doesn't matter, we won't be in
top 10-15 class.

We need a defense tackle now that we'll be running the 3-4 defense. Lets see if the coaches can land -a 5 star player Marvin Wilson- the number 1 defensive tackle in the country.

 

[WuTang_Husker]

We need a defense tackle now that we'll be running the 3-4 defense. Lets see if the coaches can land -a 5 star player Marvin Wilson- the number 1 defensive tackle in the country.

I'm sorry I ever responded to this thread. It's clear now what the problem is...

 

[HuskerNorm]

Laughable? Doesn't matter, we won't be in
top 10-15 class.

....Okay... Basic reading comprehension dictates that the fact that we won't end up in the top 15 doesn't make the statement "right now they're looking at a class outside the top 25 - top 30" any less laughable.

 

[spartanhusker]

I'm sorry I ever responded to this thread. It's clear now what the problem is...

I feel you...

 

[timnsun]

Like Matt Schick said, for a program who's best days are 15 years in the rear view mirror, it becomes a big challenge to convince high 4 star and 5 star kids to leave home and go 500-1500 miles in the middle of the country away from home to play for program where it's unlikely you're going to win a championship.

I'll give you the "5 star kids are hard to get here," but we currently have 7 4 star commits, and could easily be in double digits by next Wednesday. Last time we had 7 commits was 2011, and even then, 4 of them transferred out in short order...

We aren't where we want to be, but these coaches seem to be doing a reasonable job at convincing players to leave home.

And yes, I wish we could land Wilson as well, but I'm not gonna hold it against the coaches if they can't reel him in.

 

[starhusker]

Like Matt Schick and other recruiting analysts says, not my words. If we're not in top 10 in recruiting than Nebraska won't see anything close to a national championship and for us to win the Big 10, we need the good football players (high 4 & 5 star players) to win so so we'll see what Mike Riley & Co. can do in a few years. He's trying to get those type of recruits to come here but its hard.

 

[timnsun]

Like Matt Schick and other recruiting analysts says, not my words. If we're not in top 10 in recruiting than Nebraska won't see anything close to a national championship and for us to win the Big 10, we need the good football players (high 4 & 5 star players) to win so so we'll see what Mike Riley & Co. can do in a few years. He's trying to get those type of recruits to come here but its hard.

I agree it's hard, but I think he is showing the ability to do so... We will know more in a few years, if he continues to bring in this kind of talent and improve upon it or if this is the ceiling... But I do see signs of life and that lead to hope.

 

[OO Snipes]

Have to start somewhere! If you build it, they will come. Riley has proven that players are willing to come to NU. all you can do is keep improving and hopefully every year we bridge the talent gap, but I still don't think you need a top 10 class to compete. Good coaches? Yes. Top 25 classes are a good place to start

 

[Cornicator]

Not sure how it translates to recruiting rankings, but the elite Championship caliber teams are winning games with big time OL, DL, and QB recruits.

You win games at the point of attack and with the dude who touches the football the most.

Iowa and Wisconsin have been better than Nebraska at least two of the three spots the last few years. At that point, it doesn't really matter if your RB is more talented, or if your WRs are faster, or if your secondary has more depth.

No don't get me wrong, you can't suck every where, but if your QB is an idiot, or your oline can't block, or if your Dline can't disrupt a Junior High offense, then you're going to exposed at any level of football.

 

[BOBEBASS]

Bahe said NU cannot get elite talent. Bahe is got his head up his arse, TJ won the MVP at the 5 star challenge. Would be a 5* if he did not get injured. Bahe can be a complete idiot sometimes.

 

[scarletneverfades]

It is good that no one listens to Bahe.

 

[onechase]

Nick Bahe does not like Nebraska Football or Nebraska Basketball. Every interview I have heard him give about UNL has been negative.

 

[dinglefritz]

Exactly why would we care what a Creighton alum (Bahe) and a Colorado alum (Schick) think? I'm thankful that I no longer have the misfortune of turning on my radio to hear Schick and Bahe giggling at each others lame juvenile humorless humor.

 

[kaz36]

Nick Bahe played at KU. Didn't know if you guys knew that or not.

 

[brianm1202]

better talent -> more wins ->better talent -> more wins ->better talent -> Playoffs

 

[RVAHusker]

Bahe......hahahaha. I'm sure he talked about how he played at Kansas. And how awesome he was. He's a mouth breathing no talent wannabe.... I try to like the guy but he continues to disappoint.

#Swimtownmafia

 

[Digger6185]

For the stats gurus.... what where the class rankings or equivalent for the years 1990, 1991, 1992, & 1993? I'm not for sure but those class rankings were not stellar, maybe one year in top 15 if memory serves me. IMO, I agree there is an importance to star power. However, I am firm that there are other things like chemistry within the class and within the team.... the good teams recruit players that fit all around the program while also getting fortunate to have an outstanding change maker (e.g. Tommie J. Frazier Jr). Just think if Foster Sarell would have committed this year, with all that talent coming in , he would have been that kind of a change maker in a deceant class. player in a deceant class...I feel Sarell's high ranking would have legitimize all the momentum that the Cali kids are bringing plus would have open other 5 star recruits to give the proud Cornhuskers a try! I don't blame Sarell for wanting to get a kick ass degree... too bad he couldn't see how he would have been a program changer, IMHO.... GBR1

 

[headcard]

For the stats gurus.... what where the class rankings or equivalent for the years 1990, 1991, 1992, & 1993? I'm not for sure but those class rankings were not stellar, maybe one year in top 15 if memory serves me. IMO, I agree there is an importance to star power. However, I am firm that there are other things like chemistry within the class and within the team.... the good teams recruit players that fit all around the program while also getting fortunate to have an outstanding change maker (e.g. Tommie J. Frazier Jr). Just think if Foster Sarell would have committed this year, with all that talent coming in , he would have been that kind of a change maker in a deceant class. player in a deceant class...I feel Sarell's high ranking would have legitimize all the momentum that the Cali kids are bringing plus would have open other 5 star recruits to give the proud Cornhuskers a try! I don't blame Sarell for wanting to get a kick ass degree... too bad he couldn't see how he would have been a program changer, IMHO.... GBR1

TO had very good classes, even a #1 class. They aren't super easy to find but services like Lemming have been ranking classes for a long time and TO was a good recruiter (and coach and tactician and motivator).