Next Year

[jeans15]

I know its early, but looking at our roster.

I'm willing to accept whatever this years record is. As this team should be building towards next year, when they have learned the nuances of the offense and defense, and influx of some younger talent.

On offense we will return 8 or more starters.

On defense we lose 3 starters assuming Collins leaves and VV stays. Plus Kevin Williams.

Maybe I'm trying to save heartbreak from this season. I'm just using this season to build towards next year.

So yes I'm giving him 2 years to make a difference.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Nebraska is going to give MR more than 2 years, so it doesn't really matter what you are willing to give him. Our O-Line and QB issues will not be solved by next year, so you may as well turn off your TV for a long while.

 

[jeans15]

Nebraska is going to give MR more than 2 years, so it doesn't really matter what you are willing to give him. Our O-Line and QB issues will not be solved by next year, so you may as well turn off your TV for a long while.

I know I have no say so in who they hire that's obvious. You're brilliant.

I'm actually being optimistic about what we could be. Stating I think they could be a good team next year. This year is about experience to me.

So I'm going to just enjoy watching them play and grow instead of worrying about wins and losses. But I hope for at least a 9 and 3 season.

And if you're right we may not be on TV so I won't have to worry.

 

[red rover 70]

I think there are numerous seniors and juniors that are just taking up roster space. They are either corrupted beyond repair by the last staff or just not talented enough to have warranted a scholarship to begin with. The younger players should transition better. Mike can't say it but i will. We are going to be one deep in a lot of positions which will take lots of heart to overcome.

 

[Lincoln100]

How about this season.

 

[headcard]

Nebraska is going to give MR more than 2 years, so it doesn't really matter what you are willing to give him. Our O-Line and QB issues will not be solved by next year, so you may as well turn off your TV for a long while.

I didn't see any QB issues on Saturday and I suspect by next season TA will be pretty darn good in this system. OL might be another story, but we do have some pretty talented younger OL (Foster, Farmer, Gates, Knevel). However, next years schedule is going to be much tougher.

 

[headcard]

How about this season.

Exactly, no reason to already write this one off already. The schedule isn't too tough and we should improve as the season goes along.

 

[red rover 70]

Exactly, no reason to already write this one off already. The schedule isn't too tough and we should improve as the season goes along.

Exactly. The schedule plays into our favor and the younger players should be getting more playing time as the season moves along.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

I didn't see any QB issues on Saturday and I suspect by next season TA will be pretty darn good in this system. OL might be another story, but we do have some pretty talented younger OL (Foster, Farmer, Gates, Knevel). However, next years schedule is going to be much tougher.

We must have watched a different game. Yes, TA had the best quarter to start the game he ever had. He looked awesome. After that quarter, he looked like he always looks. Having said that, he doesn't play defensive back or kick our field goals so I am not pinning this loss on him. But TA is what he is, and that's a really average QB, and his below average O-line makes him look even worse sometimes.

 

[Crushinator]

We must have watched a different game. Yes, TA had the best quarter to start the game he ever had. He looked awesome. After that quarter, he looked like he always looks. Having said that, he doesn't play defensive back or kick our field goals so I am not pinning this loss on him. But TA is what he is, and that's a really average QB, and his below average O-line makes him look even worse sometimes.

I must have seen a different game too. Armstrong looked pretty darned good to me. Outside of that disastrous 2nd quarter I saw a guy making some pretty accurate throws. Throws I haven't seen a Husker QB make for a long time.

 

[jeans15]

TA was 80% after the 2nd Quarter

I'm just saying THIS season is about enjoying watching my favorite team play first, win and losses 2nd.

All success this year is welcomed.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

I must have seen a different game too. Armstrong looked pretty darned good to me. Outside of that disastrous 2nd quarter I saw a guy making some pretty accurate throws. Throws I haven't seen a Husker QB make for a long time.

I hesitate to debate somebody on how good or bad TA is since I am on the wrong side of that equation considering the team he plays for is my favorite team. Makes me feel a little creepy, so I will try to not to do that to much anymore....I will just say TA is a really limited QB who seems to turn it over a couple of times a game with a couple of WTF kind of plays to his credit along the way, & Sat. was no different. His play to start the game was very encouraging though and I was happy to see him play that well to start.

 

[otismotis08]

I know I have no say so in who they hire that's obvious. You're brilliant.

I'm actually being optimistic about what we could be. Stating I think they could be a good team next year. This year is about experience to me.

So I'm going to just enjoy watching them play and grow instead of worrying about wins and losses. But I hope for at least a 9 and 3 season.

And if you're right we may not be on TV so I won't have to worry.

Pretty much.

 

[Crushinator]

I still expect us to be pretty good this year. That said, I won't be sweating the losses even if we have more than I expect.

 

[nebcountry]

TA was 80% after the 2nd Quarter

I'm just saying THIS season is about enjoying watching my favorite team play first, win and losses 2nd.

All success this year is welcomed.

I get what your saying. It's easy to start seeing the "sky's the limit", but in reality we'll fall within the norm. The coaches and players are going to try to win games, their way. We just have to wait and see if that's going to be successful, for this season and the following seasons.

I watched some BTN last night. Howard Griffith and Dave Revsine were talking about NU football. It was funny, they were saying we need to run it more and to the outside. Anytime TA has thrown the ball more than 40 times, we've lost the game. I just laughed, that doesn't appear to be in the game plan Howard and Dave.

 

[BornNBredRed]

I didn't see any QB issues on Saturday and I suspect by next season TA will be pretty darn good in this system. OL might be another story, but we do have some pretty talented younger OL (Foster, Farmer, Gates, Knevel). However, next years schedule is going to be much tougher.

If Armstrong loses more than 4 games this year, there may very well be a serious competition with O'Brien for the QB spot next season. It may even happen with three or four losses, particularly if the QB spot is to blame.

 

[The Tooth Fairy]

Hm me thinks with our recent history of coaching retainment we give HCMR 5 years, 6 at absolute maximum. Within that time we will find out if he is a coach who just needed a bit more.. Or a Ron Prince who could just beat Texas somehow.

 

[leodisflowers]

If Armstrong loses more than 4 games this year, there may very well be a serious competition with O'Brien for the QB spot next season. It may even happen with three or four losses, particularly if the QB spot is to blame.

I highly doubt it, unless Tommy plays really bad. Also, I'm not ready to give O'Brien the king title yet. He hasn't played a down of CFB yet. Let's see how he makes out. Remember Johnny Stanton?

 

[jflores]

If Armstrong loses more than 4 games this year, there may very well be a serious competition with O'Brien for the QB spot next season. It may even happen with three or four losses, particularly if the QB spot is to blame.

I think it'll be a battle of skillsets rather than an arbitrary number of losses. Very rare that freshman QB's walk into D1 colleges and win starting jobs. Obviously that kid at UCLA is impressing early, and so did Winston, but there are any number of 100 teams who have freshman kids who aren't starting.

Being able to throw the ball is a nice skill, being able to combine with other skills to be better than Tommy Armstrong in running an offense is a whole nother question. Jeff George threw the ball as well as anyone has, but he never ended up Troy Aikman, Brett Favre or Tom Brady.

O'Brien may well be one of those special guys, but I would think the last 20 years or so would fairly well convince Husker fans that every highly touted guy we get, isn't necessarily the 2nd coming the moment he steps on campus. In other position groups, we might have more 4* per capita on the OL than any other group, and they might be the worst unit we field.

 

[red rover 70]

Tommy needs to continue cleaning his game up. But he looks head and shoulders better so far.

 

[jlb321]

9-3 seems really really optimistic

IMO we don't beat Miami on the road ...... 2 losses going into conf play

We might be the fourth best team in our division

people are overlooking how poor the off line is

 

[jflores]

9-3 seems really really optimistic

IMO we don't beat Miami on the road ...... 2 losses going into conf play

We might be the fourth best team in our division

people are overlooking how poor the off line is

Cav's going to earn his paycheck for sure. I have hope for the future, but it takes awhile to build OL's.

 

[Big Red Menace]

I didn't see any QB issues on Saturday and I suspect by next season TA will be pretty darn good in this system. OL might be another story, but we do have some pretty talented younger OL (Foster, Farmer, Gates, Knevel). However, next years schedule is going to be much tougher.

You didn't? I saw improvement from Tommy but there are still issues to correct. He threw off his back foot a lot when pressured, threw the ball up for grabs a few times, was indecisive in the pocket when he should have taken off running, and had two intentional grounding penalties.

That being said, he wasn't put in situations that highlighted his skills as well as we were promised. I only remember them moving him out of the pocket once. The dude has an NFL arm and it looks like Langsdorf has become infatuated with that aspect of his game. Until DPE gets back, TA is our biggest weapon on offense that he needs to be used properly. It's only one game, but that is my biggest concern right now.

 

[jflores]

You didn't? I saw improvement from Tommy but there are still issues to correct. He threw off his back foot a lot when pressured, threw the ball up for grabs a few times, was indecisive in the pocket when he should have taken off running, and had two intentional grounding penalties.

That being said, he wasn't put in situations that highlighted his skills as well as we were promised. I only remember them moving him out of the pocket once. The dude has an NFL arm and it looks like Langsdorf has become infatuated with that aspect of his game. Until DPE gets back, TA is our biggest weapon on offense that he needs to be used properly. It's only one game, but that is my biggest concern right now.

There are at least two times Spielman pointed out TA got out on the edge and should have pulled it down and ran it. Langsdorf had the dude throw in the high teens worth of screen passes. I agree with everyone else that I'd like to see TA run more, either on broken plays from the pocket or designed zone read.

I take your "as promised" to mean you want more zone-read or QB run game (as do I), but I thought the passing game was well tailored to what TA can do.

 

[dinglefritz]

great thread guys with an objective discussion of what is realistic and not about what our tiny little 5th appendage needs to feel good about itself.

 

[red rover 70]

I think there are numerous seniors and juniors that are just taking up roster space. They are either corrupted beyond repair by the last staff or just not talented enough to have warranted a scholarship to begin with. The younger players should transition better. Mike can't say it but i will. We are going to be one deep in a lot of positions which will take lots of heart to overcome.

The evidence of our roster situation has been there. Long before the eye opening walk-on count on the travel roster to Miami. I just wish some posters would get behind Riley for the good of the University.