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I don’t. Not in any certain way of course. But it is underwhelming to me because we need guys who are proven college defensive line coaches who have proven they can recruit their asses off. This dude is an assistant d line coach in the NFL. When was the last time he had to recruit? What top flight high school programs has he developed relationships with?
We are not in a position any longer to fvck around with unproven recruiters and guys who have never coached at a big boy college program before. We need home run hire coaches. Otherwise, next year will be Rhule’s last. There are so many holes to fill on defense it isn’t even funny. We needed a d line coach who could hit the ground running in recruiting the portal. Hopefully this guy will surprise me. I hope so. We need a baller for a coach at this position.
Pretty sure...every player in a "big boy college program" is aspiring to play in the NFL, but I get your point.

Sometimes NFL guys fail miserably at the college level. I've always maintained that winning is the best recruiting tool you can have, albeit with todays athletes, throwing a ton of money around seems to help also.
 
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Well with Texas, maybe even their scraps are pretty good. Manning is probably a Heisman finalist next year and he's sitting on the bench. I think he's already better than Ewers at this point.
In some cases I agree. In the case of our guy I disagree lol.


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I don’t. Not in any certain way of course. But it is underwhelming to me because we need guys who are proven college defensive line coaches who have proven they can recruit their asses off. This dude is an assistant d line coach in the NFL. When was the last time he had to recruit? What top flight high school programs has he developed relationships with?
We are not in a position any longer to fvck around with unproven recruiters and guys who have never coached at a big boy college program before. We need home run hire coaches. Otherwise, next year will be Rhule’s last. There are so many holes to fill on defense it isn’t even funny. We needed a d line coach who could hit the ground running in recruiting the portal. Hopefully this guy will surprise me. I hope so. We need a baller for a coach at this position.
Terrance Knighton was a good coach and a good recruiter. He was an assistant NFL D-line coach as well. He didn't "wow" the message board critics when he was hired either. Bradden came highly recommended from a pretty successful NFL organization located in a pretty important recruiting territory. He's appears to me to be a great hire.
 
Terrance Knighton was a good coach and a good recruiter. He was an assistant NFL D-line coach as well. He didn't "wow" the message board critics when he was hired either. Bradden came highly recommended from a pretty successful NFL organization located in a pretty important recruiting territory. He's appears to me to be a great hire.
I thought people liked Knighton at the time. I have no problem with another younger DL coach from the NFL since we know Simpson is a dynamite recruiter. I actually think those 2 could crush it on the recruiting trail. The LB coach seems to be a legit recruiter.
 
Terrance Knighton was a good coach and a good recruiter. He was an assistant NFL D-line coach as well. He didn't "wow" the message board critics when he was hired either. Bradden came highly recommended from a pretty successful NFL organization located in a pretty important recruiting territory. He's appears to me to be a great hire.
Thanks. You are correct about Knighton and when he was hired I was not very excited about it. He turned out to be a great coach and recruiter. So hopefully Bradden turns out the same.
My chief concern in all of these hires is we need a big infusion of portal guys on defense and we need it now. This is year 3 coming up for Rhule. The narrative either shifts in a positive direction next season or he is toast. We don’t have time for coaches to get acclimated. They need to hit the ground running. If Bradden can do that I will be his biggest cheerleader.
 
He’s coached a lot of pro bowlers. Kids trying to make it to the NFL, a defensive staff with a lot of NFL experience, doesn’t hurt one bit. A lot of ties in the KC area and in Florida.

Major programs are evolving to be more of an NFL like experience as a selling point.
 
Thanks. You are correct about Knighton and when he was hired I was not very excited about it. He turned out to be a great coach and recruiter. So hopefully Bradden turns out the same.
My chief concern in all of these hires is we need a big infusion of portal guys on defense and we need it now. This is year 3 coming up for Rhule. The narrative either shifts in a positive direction next season or he is toast. We don’t have time for coaches to get acclimated. They need to hit the ground running. If Bradden can do that I will be his biggest cheerleader.

When he talks about his experience with Chris Jones and other successful lineman at Kansas City, and what made them successful, guys are gonna listen. He can sell them that he has the recipe to level up.
 
We needed a DC/dl coach who'd bring players with them with this being the portal era win now era. Haves and have nots.

If NU wasn't already in the modern have not bracket before, they're certainly going to be now. Yay.
Don’t you think that’s kind of a short term vision? I don’t have a super high opinion of people who follow others around. I want guys who want to be here and will compete to be the best. For example, my impression with someone like James Williams is that he thinks his success is tied to Knighton. He’s gonna follow him around like a love struck schoolgirl. Time to man up and face some adversity and come out of it better.
 
Don’t you think that’s kind of a short term vision? I don’t have a super high opinion of people who follow others around. I want guys who want to be here and will compete to be the best. For example, my impression with someone like James Williams is that he thinks his success is tied to Knighton. He’s gonna follow him around like a love struck schoolgirl. Time to man up and face some adversity and come out of it better.
Williams loves Knighton but he’s entertained $$ offers from other school. I don’t think he’s committed to anybody yet.
 
I thought people liked Knighton at the time. I have no problem with another younger DL coach from the NFL since we know Simpson is a dynamite recruiter. I actually think those 2 could crush it on the recruiting trail. The LB coach seems to be a legit recruiter.
Don't confuse liked and were familiar with. Because some people were familiar with his name, they were fine with the hire even though he was "just the assistant DL coach" for Rhule at Carolina.
 
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Don't confuse liked and were familiar with. Because some people were familiar with his name, they were fine with the hire even though he was "just the assistant DL coach" for Rhule at Carolina.
I don’t think very many people had a strong opinion about Knighton one way or the other. At that time we were all just excited about the Rhule hire (most of us anyway) and were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt with regard to anyone he hired.

But things are more urgent now and there is little room for error. The Overton window is closing. Rhule really needs a breakout season next year. Therefore, I think a lot of fans are taking a closer look at whoever Rhule hires this time around. Maybe that isn’t our place. Maybe we are full of shit. I know I am most of the time. But it is the sense of urgency that I think has led to a heightened scrutiny.
 
My chief concern in all of these hires is we need a big infusion of portal guys on defense and we need it now. This is year 3 coming up for Rhule. The narrative either shifts in a positive direction next season or he is toast. We don’t have time for coaches to get acclimated. They need to hit the ground running. If Bradden can do that I will be his biggest cheerleader.
I agree with you on the need to bring in some talent. I think these latest hires will help in that regard. I don't know much about Bradden. But his Super Bowl rings and stories about working with Chris Jones are going to grab kid's attention, especially in the Midwest.

Some fans have called for hiring position coaches based on who they could bring with them. That's nice if it worked out. But there are more important traits to look for in a coach. And I think fans underestimate how difficult it would be to (A) find a great coach who wants to come here who (B) happens to have a few players at his position who would willingly follow him. Look at Florida State for example. How many NU transfers are they going to take and are any of those guys going to be instant all-ACC performers?
 
I agree with you on the need to bring in some talent. I think these latest hires will help in that regard. I don't know much about Bradden. But his Super Bowl rings and stories about working with Chris Jones are going to grab kid's attention, especially in the Midwest.

Some fans have called for hiring position coaches based on who they could bring with them. That's nice if it worked out. But there are more important traits to look for in a coach. And I think fans underestimate how difficult it would be to (A) find a great coach who wants to come here who (B) happens to have a few players at his position who would willingly follow him. Look at Florida State for example. How many NU transfers are they going to take and are any of those guys going to be instant all-ACC performers?
All solid points...
 
I, for one, I am getting tired of all of these doom and gloom, know nothing, chicken little pantwaists that have infected our message board.
It's logical to be concerned about our defense and losing half of our D line depth. It isn't logical to be so over the top with the criticism of the hires.
 
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It's logical to be concerned about our defense and losing half of our D line depth. It isn't logical to be so over the top with the criticism of the hires.
Both perfectly logical and fair at this point. We're in wait and see mode now, but not expecting the "third year" jump to magically happen, and therefore the debate if Rhule would be deserving of a 4th year.
 
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We lost the heart of our DL due to exhausted eligibility not the portal. It was going to be a rebuild anyway. There is a top 20 defense lurking in the portal. Need to identify and assemble the pieces post haste. Cut out your daily frappachino and donate to NIL. That's all it takes, a large contingent of Husker faithful donating their specialty coffee money.
 
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Can someone point me to which players were TK recruits, and what their production here was? Nash and Ty were NOT his recruits, right? Which superstars did he bring here and which ones had a ton of production for us?
 
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Ty even though listed in a 3 man front as a DE is still a DT and is the best we've had since Suh and Crick period. Kept telling people for a couple of months that I don't think people realize how huge of a loss losing Ty and Nash were gonna be at seasons end as we have no one in that room that is their size or caliber. Those 2 especially Nash before his knee injury that he played through the season with basically manhandeld OLs by themselves. What I would love to see, but will never happen now is for someone like Princewill pulling himself out of the portal because of Bradden but alas a I see that Trio of Butler, Gaybor and Princewill as starters in Tallahasse next year as 1 they already know White's system and 2 those 3 are better than what they currently have at their respective positions. One thing we may have to worry about is, Coop poaching some of our best DBs as he's the one that got them here along with Simpson. The good thing about Snow coming onboard as AHC is it give him the freedon to assist with the defense without having to do it as DC which he doesn't want to anymore. He's 72. I hope he doesn't kick the bucket like Smilin' Mikes buddy did while on the coaching staff and he was in his 70s as well! That was actually really sad and he was a really good coach.
Good dlines are possible to scheme around now, which is why teams have moved away from a pro-style, NFL power offense. Our dline could handle a power run game because of the big boys but they had little impact on a spread, timing based offense that got the ball out, like Illinois or Indiana. Well balanced offenses are just hard to stop, teams that can bring in TEs and run power, and then spread you out, and you really just need to out score them. That is why Indiana was either going to be a blowout or a shootout, our defense was not set-up to stop them with our sieve of a secondary. Our weakest position coach is now our DC, and that is more scary than losing personnel.
 
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Good dlines are possible to scheme around now, which is why teams have moved away from a pro-style, NFL power offense. Our dline could handle a power run game because of the big boys but they had little impact on a spread, timing based offense that got the ball out, like Illinois or Indiana. Well balanced offenses are just hard to stop, teams that can bring in TEs and run power, and then spread you out, and you really just need to out score them. That is why Indiana was either going to be a blowout or a shootout, our defense was not set-up to stop them with our sieve of a secondary. Our weakest position coach is now our DC, and that is more scary than losing personnel.
Everyone keeps thinking Butler was a bad secondary coach, oh contrair. Copper resigned in July and Butler got here in early August at start of fall camp and didn't even have a full month to work with that room before the UTEP game August 31st and with Butler, was not a case of plug and play. His coaching style is immensely different than Cooper's which is not even in the galaxy as JB's. Had he been here during the last winter and spring, that room woulda looked light years better than what they were as he woulda had the propper time to work with them and because he didn't things were added on the fly. Butler's scheme is far different than Coop's as Butler may have kept some of what they knew but is teaching the Bills secondary scheme and some of it took but most of this year was on the fly and real basic, like the Safties and Corners for example each player has their own scheme meaning each position player has their own playbook which is NFL not college level while Cooper's was not. Sure he's gonna have to dumb some of it down due to time constraints as in the NFL, that's their 40+ hour a week job to get things down and rep everything. College players don't have the luxury of having that kind of time to learn and rep. The secondary will be light years better this year as Butler will be doing double duty as the DC and in charge of the secondary and will have the propper time to work with them. He's coached some elite NFL talent, so he know's very well what he's doing.
 
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Everyone keeps thinking Butler was a bad secondary coach, oh contrair. Copper resigned in July and Butler got here in early August at start of fall camp and didn't even have a full month to work with that room before the UTEP game August 31st and with Butler, was not a case of plug and play. His coaching style is immensely different than Cooper's which is not even in the galaxy as JB's. Had he been here during the last winter and spring, that room woulda looked light years better than what they were as he woulda had the propper time to work with them and because he didn't things were added on the fly. Butler's scheme is far different than Coop's as Butler may have kept some of what they knew but is teaching the Bills secondary scheme and some of it took but most of this year was on the fly and real basic, like the Safties and Corners for example each player has their own scheme meaning each position player has their own playbook which is NFL not college level while Cooper's was not. Sure he's gonna have to dumb some of it down due to time constraints as in the NFL, that's their 40+ hour a week job to get things down and rep everything. College players don't have the luxury of having that kind of time to learn and rep. The secondary will be light years better this year as Butler will be doing double duty as the DC and in charge of the secondary and will have the propper time to work with them. He's coached some elite NFL talent, so he know's very well what he's doing.
Tell me you know nothing about secondary play without telling me you know nothing about secondary play.
 
Williams may love Knighton, but loves Jamar Mozee more which was his HS coach.

You guys are still talking about two different kids.

James Williams loves Knighton and will follow him to FSU. Williams Nwaneri played for Moze and will follow him to Nebraska. Everyone is right (and wrong).
 
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Tell me you know nothing about secondary play without telling me you know nothing about secondary play.
Sorry bud, it's the truth. They even made mention during one of the games talking only about the Safties each one having their own scheme never expert! you're a hey, look at me, look at my lyin BS narratives.
 
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Sorry bud, it's the truth. They even made mention during one of the games talking only about the Safties each one having their own scheme never expert! you're a hey, look at me, look at my lyin BS narratives.
You are attempting to talk about split-field coverages, but doing it very poorly.
 
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You are attempting to talk about split-field coverages, but doing it very poorly.
All 4 each have their own schemes and is more than just split field. Butler is also huge on press and man coverage. This year because he didn't have ample time to work with that room before the 1st game, he kept a bit of what they already knew while adding his stuff on the fly. He got here pretty much as fall camp was just getting ready to start in August and the 1st game was the 31 st. Not much time to work with them.
 
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