Oregon may not be what they were a couple of years ago but they are loaded with talent, speed and will be a very tough game.
Oregon may not be what they were a couple of years ago but they are loaded with talent, speed and will be a very tough game.
Let's give Banker another year or 2 before we throw him under the bus and call him Cosgrove.The mediocrity of Banker should never be underestimated as a factor holding this team back going forward.
And if our D does well does Banker get any credit?The mediocrity of Banker should never be underestimated as a factor holding this team back going forward.
Absolutely true. I would think it is only an advantage having a head coach who used to have to try to beat them every year while they were getting good, but who now has a totally different level of talent and resources at his disposal to play against them with.
Also I agree that this game looks to be a shoot-out. Like I've been saying, I think our defensive backfield and linebackers are going to rock this year, but our D-line is going to be...a work in progress. And Oregon's one strength right now is running the ball. So that match-up does not favor us. They are also, I'm reading, completely depleted on defense, and they weren't even great at defense to begin with (a historic knock on their program ever since it got good; blowout scores but you can score on them, too). I think if it becomes a shootout, we have a better shot at winning, but thats just conjecture at this point.
It will probably be close and be decided by turnovers.I like our chances of winning the Oregon game. I think our offense is as good as theirs. And our defense, even with a questionable line, is better than theirs. The game is at home and the crowd will be pumped. Everyone in our program - - players, coaches and fans - - are hungry as hell. Plus, Riley knows these guys and would LOVE to stick it to his old State rival. Now he has the talent to get it done.
The mediocrity of Banker should never be underestimated as a factor holding this team back going forward.
The irony about Bo's recruiting was on the defensive side of the football. He was a defensive minded coach who continually left roster holes on his roster. You would've thought concentrating on defensive recruiting would've been his biggest focus.
I dont believe this to be true as they've had seasons with good rushing numbers when at Oregon St.Here we go again. I get the impression that the run game is burden, a cross to carry, for this staff.
I think we judge Banker as any coach is judged - from day one - You expect a good coach to have a positive impact. I am not doubting the roster holes but a good coach improves the team - Banker finished 64th in total defense and his last year at OSU he finished 74thI'm not going to spend a lot of time defending Mark Banker because you have the right to your own opinion.
However, his defense went into 2015 with the following personnel:
Dedrick Young at the WILL, 3 months removed from high school.
Luke Gifford, a 219 lb converted safety, playing the most important position on the team, SAM linebacker. Let's not forget it was also his first game ever in week one. He then missed the season after week 2.
Jack Gangwish, with a 4.9 forty, was your starting Weak Side DE... aka the most important pass rusher.
Freedom Akimadoluan was seeing his first collegiate action ever, and had only been practicing at DE for a month.
True Freshman Aaron Williams was thrown into a major role at Safety despite being undersized and likely needing a redshirt.
Marcus Newby had never played a meaningful snap before.
Mike Rose Ivey had missed 18 months of football.
Ross Dzuris had never played a meaningful snap and was basically there by default.
Daniel Davie and Jon Rose had been playing zone coverage the previous 2 seasons.
Josh Kalu had been almost exclusively a Nickel back.
Chris Jones had never taken a snap.
Josh Banderas had rarely been a true MLB in the 4-3 under Bo.
Nate Gerry was given free reign under Bo to improvise coverage. His responsibility in the new scheme was far more detailed.
The irony about Bo's recruiting was on the defensive side of the football. He was a defensive minded coach who continually left roster holes on his roster. You would've thought concentrating on defensive recruiting would've been his biggest focus.
Let's see wait to judge Banker the next 3 seasons. His 2016 defense will have a bunch of experience and his 2017 and 2018 teams will be full of his own players.
I think we judge Banker as any coach is judged - from day one - You expect a good coach to have a positive impact. I am not doubting the roster holes but a good coach improves the team - Banker finished 64th in total defense and his last year at OSU he finished 74th
I really do not think three years of finishing in the lower half of all D1 is needed to know if he is cutting it or not - Now if he gets much better this year then I buy the theory it will take getting his players in here to build a top ten defense - Hogwash he needs his players to field a decent defense
Oregon returns only 2 offensive linemen with any starting experience (about 60 starts btwn them) and looks to be weaker at QB. This alone should off set any disadvantage we may have with an inexperienced d-line.Oregon will be a tough nut with a inexperienced DL.
That is conjecture only and stating our defense would have been bad under any coach is false - I do not think the players were there to have a top 20 defense but it could have been much sounder. There were holes yes but also some pretty strong players.Nebraska's 2015 defense would've been bad under any DC. I think you should wait until December 2016 to judge the man.
That is conjecture only and stating our defense would have been bad under any coach is false - I do not think the players were there to have a top 20 defense but it could have been much sounder. There were holes yes but also some pretty strong players.
I have grave doubts about Banker based on not only last year but his body of work - But am hopeful we see a much stronger defense this year. my point was I do not believe we need 3 full years of crappy to determine if he is going to work out - If on the other hand we see significant improvement this year that a good sign. I just believe most teams can field a decent defense if properly coached - elite championship defenses need top players and top coaching. Banker does not need all his own players to be respectable
Boxes I am giving him time in my mind - I want to be hopeful and we did look better in stopping the run at times last year. What gets me riled up is this argument that the coaches but the players either had no talent, no experience or head cases last year and that is why the defense was bad. I think we had holes yes - but we also had two NFL DT's and adequate back ups - Gangwish you can say all you want but the kid plays hard every snap and makes plays -C'mon man. Look at who Banker had to work with this last season. Look at the injuries. It is what it is. How much more transparent can our deficits be? As Cornicator said, "Nebraska's 2015 defense would've been bad under any DC." You're going to have to give staff more than a single season. I don't think that you gave them half a season before you made up your mind. You're going to have to gut it out while the rest of us support the staff.
That is conjecture only and stating our defense would have been bad under any coach is false - I do not think the players were there to have a top 20 defense but it could have been much sounder. There were holes yes but also some pretty strong players.
I have grave doubts about Banker based on not only last year but his body of work - But am hopeful we see a much stronger defense this year. my point was I do not believe we need 3 full years of crappy to determine if he is going to work out - If on the other hand we see significant improvement this year that a good sign. I just believe most teams can field a decent defense if properly coached - elite championship defenses need top players and top coaching. Banker does not need all his own players to be respectable
That is conjecture only and stating our defense would have been bad under any coach is false - I do not think the players were there to have a top 20 defense but it could have been much sounder. There were holes yes but also some pretty strong players.
I have grave doubts about Banker based on not only last year but his body of work - But am hopeful we see a much stronger defense this year. my point was I do not believe we need 3 full years of crappy to determine if he is going to work out - If on the other hand we see significant improvement this year that a good sign. I just believe most teams can field a decent defense if properly coached - elite championship defenses need top players and top coaching. Banker does not need all his own players to be respectable
Lol... that's not conjecture. That defense had plenty of depth and inexperience issues which were magnified by a scheme change. Nebraska had less scholarship linebackers on their roster than any other team in the Big Ten in 2015.
Again, I don't need to defend the guy, but That defense was doomed from the day Bo left town.
So what do you have the stats and season looking like last year if Narduzzi is the DC?
The same considering its the exact same scheme.
Yikes. So you think coaching is scheme?
In addition, their quarters adjustments and front fits most certainly are not the same, but I thought you knew that based on the "expertise" you display here?
Personnel dictates adjustments and fits... If you think Narduzzi would've run his scheme circa 2014 with Nebraska's personnel in 2015, then please enlighten us with your brilliant football acumen.
It's the same scheme, but we didn't run tight press coverage last year like Narduzzi does. It showed too.. We let the opponent run their routes all day long and got burned over and over again.The same considering its the exact same scheme.
Personnel dictates adjustments and fits... If you think Narduzzi would've run his scheme circa 2014 with Nebraska's personnel in 2015, then please enlighten us with your brilliant football acumen.
Don't stop short. In your opinion the scheme last year should have been....?Personnel NEVER effects fits!
And I got it. You think it was a poor decision to ATTEMPT to run a Narduzzi type scheme last year. I agree 100%.
Don't stop short. In your opinion the scheme last year should have been....?