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The Iowa board is pretty boring, especially in between basketball games. I know what Iowa has coming back, so what does Nebraska have returning?

Will Patrick O'Brien really push Tommy for the starting spot?

Will the running game become more of a focal point? If I remember correct, Nebraska has had a few highly rated RBs in the past few classes.

Nebraska's schedule definitely is harder than Iowa's next year. How much of a factor will that be?
 
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On offense We have almost every single skill position guy back, one of the Big 10s best group of WRs and TE (Yes i think have possibly the best TE in the conference, at least in the passing game) and Oz and Newby at RB should be good this year. I think a former top 100 RB M Wilbon will finaly get his shot at meaning full snaps this year. Our Oline will be up for grabs in a few spots but we have some solid guys comming up and we all know Armstrong has a ton of experience and i believe will start off the season as the starter and he will be the biggest key to a great season or a rough season, if he doesn't improve his decision making and accuracy i believe O'Brien will have the keys to the offense passed to him....but my personal opinion is Tommy will improve a lot next season will be one of the top Big 10 quarterbacks. Even you, a Hawkeye fan has to admit if Tommy made better choices and upped his completion percentage a bit, dude would be a beast with his mobility added in.

On defense we only lose one DB, a safety but return a promising group of CBs, a all Big 10 caliber safety in Nate Gerry, every single LB will be back and im excited to see how much D Young improves in his sophomore year (remember he started as a true freshman) and almost half the season or longer over 2/3s of our starting LBs where injuried, even the number 2 guys where hurt. So if this group stays healthy this year, they could be our strength on defense. Now possibly our weakness on defense is our DL, we lose V Valentine and M Collins (both top tier DTs) and we lost our number 3 on the depth chart at DT too but we do have some top talent comming up in the Davis twins (coaches where close to burning the redshirt on one of them because of how well they were comming along) and at DE we return McMullen (former 4 star DE) and a promising young DE that switched from TE (possibly are only speed rush end we have right now with experience). Theres a possibility that McMullen may switch to DT, he has the size and stregnth to play DT and has played some at DT during the season.

Our kicker and punter is top notch if not elitie and we finally get back the best punt returner in college football in Person-El and a good back up in Westercamp. Now at kick return its been up in the air but appears Stan (the man) Morgan may have that locked up and is a solid kick returner.

So overall we have the team, talent and coaches to have a great season but i think it will fall squarely on how well Tommy Armstrong improves and is whiling to be taught by Langsdorf. If he improves his accuracy a bit and keeps from going bombs away on every pass, we could easily own the West and possibly win our first Conference title in years.
 
We all saw the up side of Tommy Armstrong against MSU and UCLA. We saw his downside against Iowa. The guy can litterally win, or lose us ball games. IMO, TA was not 100% bought in prior to the Iowa game. I think he's all in now, and if he's all in and willing to be coached he's going to be a force next season.

Year 2 of this system, with what's coming back, if TA plays at a consistent level the way he did against UCLA. IMO the only 2 teams in the conference we really can't beat on a consistent basis are OSU and Michigan. We're just not there talent wise.

IMO the BIG West is much like the old Big 12 North. Nebraska is likely to be in the mix, if not the favorite, more often than not. We represented the North 6 times in 15 years, the only team with more B12 CCG appearances was OU. And even though we had years like 2007 and 2004, even in our down years, it many times came down to NU and one other team such as MU, CU or KSU. So far in the Big West we've been less than adequate, but I don't think that's entirely because of personnel. I think it's more a reflection of coaching (which is a topic for another thread). So far, despite the overall 2015 record, I think Riley has the program going in the right direct. If the team is fully bought in to his system, then NU is going to be really tough to beat in 2016 for anyone not named OSU or Michigan.

We've been waiting to turn the corner so to speak, for 10 years. I find myself using the term cautiously optimistic year after year. But Riley is a breath of fresh air unlike has been seen in Lincoln since the late '90's/early 2000's. I'm hoping 2016 is the year we look back on and say, that was the year NU turned the corner and became what we all hope we can be again. A team that is consistently in the Top 10-15 in the nation with consistent real opportunities to play for and win at a minimum conference titles.
 
Nebraska is the most talented team in the B1G next to tOSU. Just ask their fans and local talk radio shows. Heck, they have been since they joined the B1G according to the fans and radio.
 
Nebraska is the most talented team in the B1G next to tOSU. Just ask their fans and local talk radio shows. Heck, they have been since they joined the B1G according to the fans and radio.
Stop. The Husker fans in this thread have brought good insight. I'm actually wanting to learn and discuss Big Ten West football without name calling, so stay out.

Didn't realize Nebraska returned so much next season. Seems like the next step is learning how to win instead of giving games away, which comes with obvious experience.

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seemed Imani Cross was the most effective back last year. I was impressed with Ozigbo when he played. Valentine and Collins will probably be more of a replacement than most fans think.

And yes, Armstrong's legs worried me, but I don't see him not turning the ball over twice a game.
 
The Iowa board is pretty boring, especially in between basketball games. I know what Iowa has coming back, so what does Nebraska have returning?

Will Patrick O'Brien really push Tommy for the starting spot?

Will the running game become more of a focal point? If I remember correct, Nebraska has had a few highly rated RBs in the past few classes.

Nebraska's schedule definitely is harder than Iowa's next year. How much of a factor will that be?

I'm only filling in gaps, as there's been some detailed posts already made. Offensive and defensive lines are question marks with new players hitting the field. Riley has reiterated a high value placed on game experience, especially at qb. Patrick O'Brien (we call him POB) looks to be a good prospect, but we'll have to wait until after the spring game to see if he has any type of shot this year. My opinion at this time, Armstrong will be the qb next year.

When we talk about the running game on this board, it generally turns into an internal fight by extremist viewpoints. After the UCLA game, Riley indicated a desire to have a strong run game, we have to wait until fall to see how that statement translates into in real life actuality.

Oregon at home, and at OhSU. Those are the marquee non conference/non divisional games. You can curse at me for being an NU fan, but I can see us winning those games, not as a favorite, but there's no reason to be a fan if you don't think you can win. We REALLY need to win the games that we should win, *cough*, Illinois, *cough*, Purdue. With another year under our belt in the new schemes, I have to think we'll do better.

Should be an interesting year, I'd give Iowa the way-to-early preseason pick to be the divisional champ. But, who knows, the games will be played, and there'll be a winner.
 
NU is not beating Ohio State at "the shoe" I could see us beating Oregon at home though.. I think we are a better team than we were last year and get 7 to 9 wins depending on a few "swing games" Oregon, at North Western and at your Hawkeyes. I like this coaching staff for the most part and we will get better and better but it's going to take time. I hope we as Nebraska fans can stay patient and give Mike Riley time, good coach, good teacher, good leader and most important a good person. If Nebraska gives him 5 years I think the football program is back to being a legit top 10 to 15 program that wins the west division a lot of the times and will win the Big10 some of the times. No matter what though, we get back to being in conversation of challenging for the Big10 title every year.
 
Nebraska is the most talented team in the B1G next to tOSU. Just ask their fans and local talk radio shows. Heck, they have been since they joined the B1G according to the fans and radio.

Well. Considering the BTN writers and analysts have consistently said for the past 3-4 years that NU has talent on par with the best of the Big Ten. And considering our 5 year composite recruiting average is tied with Penn State and the only teams ahead of us are Michigan State (not by much) and then more significantly Michigan and Ohio State. Then yes, one who has half a brain can look at the numbers and the professional analysis and reasonably state that, on paper, Nebraska has one of the more talented teams in the Big Ten.

But Football games aren't played on paper, which is part of the reason Bo Pelini is no longer here. He had the talent on paper to compete for conference titles, and couldn't. So he's gone. Now it's Riley's turn. Hopefully he takes what's on paper and turns it into success on the field. If he does, then yes, given our level of talent, Nebraska will be difficult to beat for anyone not named Michigan or Ohio State.
 
I hope the QB position gets better this year. With Armstrong it's between the ears. I thinks it's pretty hard to coach bad decisions out of a player. So we will see what Langsdorf can do. Hoping for the best there, but who knows.

I do hope that the Langsdorf (the OC) realizes what he has for a QB and works more to his strengths (passing 18-22 times a game, roll outs, etc).

With RB, we will have more realistic expectations this year as fans. It's hard to adjust when you go from Abdullah to a normal college level RB (especially after the run of RBs we had - Jackson, Helu, Burkhead, Abdullah were or are all NFL backs).

Imani was decent player in his own right, but was never the work horse. His lost should not have a major impact. Luckily, true freshman Ozigbo emerged last season as a back that can be a 3 down guy. Newby was very highly touted coming out of HS, but seems to struggle hitting holes. Wilbon is the other back that I think will break out this year. He didn't play after the first game last year for an undisclosed reason (academics?). But only positive things have ever been said about his play. Could be the best back of the bunch.

The biggest loss in offense is the fullback Janovich. He was a special teams ace, mean blocker and had some really nice runs. He was a real throw back.

The WR corps should only improve. no major losses here.

The offense line will be the major question. We lose all but a guard and a tackle. The tackle, Gates, played RT all year as a redshirt Fr. and was possibly the best o-linemen on the field for Nebraska for much of the season. I would think he moves to LT this year.

The interior of the line has a lot of young talent. It very well could be an addition by subtraction thing this year now that the young guys have another year under their belts. So I'm not too worried about G/C/G. The other tackle position is where Nebraska is really thin. They have a couple kids that can hopefully step up. But injuries at tackle (much like LB last year) would really hurt due to lack of depth.

TEs should be a step up from last year. Carter is a stud.

The DEs can hopefully improve. Freedom is the only true pass rusher that played last year. Hopefully a couple really young guys can step up and be 3rd down pass rushers. Neal is a real possibility for that (will be a redshirt Fr.)

We had crazy depth at DT last year and have experienced guys to step in. But you don't lose Collins and VV and not take a step back. There will be a new d-line coach this year (Riley just let go the old one), so we will see if he makes any difference. There are the Davis twins that have been promising, but will be redshirt Fr. and most likely 3-6 on the depth chart. Will definitely get snaps.

No losses at LB. Two seniors and a bunch of young guys. Will hopefully improve and keep away from last years injury bug. (Somewhat similar to what happened to Iowa's LBs the last couple years. Inexperienced and a liability 2 seasons ago, possibly a strength last season).

The DBs will be solid. Lose a S. But Gerry returns (and they are looking into the targeting rule this off season, so hopefully that keeps him on the field - see UCLA game). There may be a log jam at CB. We lose Rose. Probably the best CB from last year, but a ton of young guys are coming up.

Punter is all-conference caliber. Got hurt last season and still played great.

Kicker is good and improving.
 
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Nebraska is the most talented team in the B1G next to tOSU. Just ask their fans and local talk radio shows. Heck, they have been since they joined the B1G according to the fans and radio.
You sound upset. You know one thing I never consider doing? Seeking out an Iowa football radio show. Literally has never crossed my mind.
 
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In 2016, Nebraska will be one year further into the Mike Riley system. Last year was a complete rebuild, with players that fit Bo's offense and defense, but were round pegs for square holes, in Riley's schemes. You could see the growth, offensively and defensively, as the year went along and the team learned the new system and more importantly, bought into it.

One very encouraging thing was, their ability to stop the run. Iowa had two long runs against Nebraska, but couldn't convert a single Third Down in their game against Nebraska. Wisconsin couldn't run up and down the field, like they could in the past, against Bo's defenses. Along with that, the pass defense was completely terrible early in the year, when they were lost in the new system, but very solid by year's end.

If Nebraska didn't throw four unforced interceptions against Iowa last year, they could have beaten three teams that were ranked in the top seven in the nation, at one point. So, some talent is there. Heck, if college football only lasted fifty nine minutes and fifty seconds, they would have beaten BYU, Illinois, Wisconsin and tied Miami. I don't say that to say they should have won those games because they did find a way to lose all of those them, but to point out that their record was close to being quite different.

2016 rests on Armstrong's ability to play smart, like he did vs UCLA. If he does that all year, they should be able to beat anybody on the schedule except OSU. I think with a second year under Riley and Langsdorf, Tommy will be good and it seems like the Big Ten West is Nebraska's to lose. I do think Iowa will be their best competition for the West, but with all the skill players back and some young, but talented Offensive Linemen, their offense should be better and able to put points on anybody.
 
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What about the worst passing defense in the country us "promising"
 
8th worst I believe. So there's that. It was that bad and they still didn't get a Pelini-type beatdown. Just think if they manage to improve to misdle of the pack! Or you can continue to bitch and stomp your feet after 1 year. Your choice.
Yeah, just lost to illinois and purdue
 
Yeah, just lost to illinois and purdue
And? Your girlfriend needed a save by Ameer to squeak out a win against an FCS team. Mighty Iowa state beat him. NOBODY thinks losing to those teams is a good thing. It is 1 year in with a skeleton roster! Reading this kind of nonsense is maddening. It's like playing cards with my sisters kids. Agravating sons a bitches....
 
My expectations is going into Iowa City to Win the B1G West.

Biggest concern is offensive and defensive line depth.If TA makes better decisions and limits his turnovers this team wil be very tough to beat...We have every thing in place for good special team returning..
9-10 game regular season is very possible.
 
It all depends on line play in the B1G. There are some serious holes to fill on both sides of the ball for Neb., and while young and talented, experience is so so key in getting the unit to gel.

The first 5 games will be very telling as to how successful the '16 season will be. If they storm their way out of the gate, then all the better. One thing is for certain with a young line: there WILL be growing pains.
 
And? Your girlfriend needed a save by Ameer to squeak out a win against an FCS team. Mighty Iowa state beat him. NOBODY thinks losing to those teams is a good thing. It is 1 year in with a skeleton roster! Reading this kind of nonsense is maddening. It's like playing cards with my sisters kids. Agravating sons a bitches....
Im sure they were quite the challenge for you.
 
Im sure they were quite the challenge for you.
They are. But over the years I have learned a few things from being on this board and reading posters like you. The foremost being that some people stopped their cognative learning ability in about 3rd grade. They go through life with a need to feel angry and miserable. They have a petty need for some kind of "revenge" even though the ones they hate have no culpability in the matter. It is very much a result of the current promoted culture and those same posters being raised being told they are precious snowflakes endlessly.
 
In 2016, Nebraska will be one year further into the Mike Riley system. Last year was a complete rebuild, with players that fit Bo's offense and defense, but were round pegs for square holes, in Riley's schemes. You could see the growth, offensively and defensively, as the year went along and the team learned the new system and more importantly, bought into it.

One very encouraging thing was, their ability to stop the run. Iowa had two long runs against Nebraska, but couldn't convert a single Third Down in their game against Nebraska. Wisconsin couldn't run up and down the field, like they could in the past, against Bo's defenses. Along with that, the pass defense was completely terrible early in the year, when they were lost in the new system, but very solid by year's end.

If Nebraska didn't throw four unforced interceptions against Iowa last year, they could have beaten three teams that were ranked in the top seven in the nation, at one point. So, some talent is there. Heck, if college football only lasted fifty nine minutes and fifty seconds, they would have beaten BYU, Illinois, Wisconsin and tied Miami. I don't say that to say they should have won those games because they did find a way to lose all of those them, but to point out that their record was close to being quite different.

2016 rests on Armstrong's ability to play smart, like he did vs UCLA. If he does that all year, they should be able to beat anybody on the schedule except OSU. I think with a second year under Riley and Langsdorf, Tommy will be good and it seems like the Big Ten West is Nebraska's to lose. I do think Iowa will be their best competition for the West, but with all the skill players back and some young, but talented Offensive Linemen, their offense should be better and able to put points on anybody.
I think you're wrong about the West being Nebraska's to lose. They very well could win it, but it is Iowa's to lose at the moment. Iowa has 15-16 guys with starting experience coming back and the easier schedule. Wisky, NW, Nebraska, and Michigan all come to Kinnick. Like Scarlet said, you're gonna have to win on Black Friday to take the division.

This doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen this way because 2010 still stings in Iowa expectation lore.
 
I think you're wrong about the West being Nebraska's to lose. They very well could win it, but it is Iowa's to lose at the moment. Iowa has 15-16 guys with starting experience coming back and the easier schedule. Wisky, NW, Nebraska, and Michigan all come to Kinnick. Like Scarlet said, you're gonna have to win on Black Friday to take the division.

This doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen this way because 2010 still stings in Iowa expectation lore.

This is correct. It appears Iowa isn't ready to take a step back just yet. Until a different team emerges throughout next season, this will probably be most of the pundits' sentiment heading forward.

Should be a fun division to watch next year as it appears many teams will be much improved.
 
Scarlet you can gladly go over to the Hawkeye board and complain about us big meanie mods. Oh wait you already do. The rule is posted, respect it or don't post it's really that simple.

As to the rest of the thread great discussion!
 
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I for one am thrilled that such a standout representative of our fanbase feels the need to go kiss ass on another teams board. He is the greatest fan you will ever meet you know, because he is old as shit makes him so.
 
:rolleyes: For that.

Your position on this topic was well documented two weeks ago after Metal pinned the thread both here and on the Iowa board. You can roll your eyes all you want at my decisions and continue to call me out. Our job is to keep the board free of that kind of stuff. If you don`t like it, take it up with Mike Matya.
 
Scarlet you can gladly go over to the Hawkeye board and complain about us big meanie mods. Oh wait you already do. The rule is posted, respect it or don't post it's really that simple.

As to the rest of the thread great discussion!
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What he posted wasn't deserved of a ban.. This is America and that is my opinion..

And yes it a good thread and Iowa will,be the B1G West favorite to win the division as they should what they have coming back and a conference schedule easier than Nebraska.
 
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What he posted wasn't deserved of a ban.. This is America and that is my opinion..

And yes it a good thread and Iowa will,be the B1G West favorite to win the division as they should what they have coming back and a conference schedule easier than Nebraska.
This has nothing to do with America numbnuts. Start your own board where your fake-ass posturing will make you feel better.
 
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I for one am thrilled that such a standout representative of our fanbase feels the need to go kiss ass on another teams board. He is the greatest fan you will ever meet you know, because he is old as shit makes him so.


But you'll let this guy bant and ridicule numerous others of our fan base on this board..
 
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What he posted wasn't deserved of a ban.. This is America and that is my opinion..

And yes it a good thread and Iowa will,be the B1G West favorite to win the division as they should what they have coming back and a conference schedule easier than Nebraska.

The rules are clear, my instructions are clear. As I said, contact Mike if you have a complaint.
 
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But you'll let this guy bant and ridicule numerous others of our fan base on this board..
Try harder. So sad when old people think they have a grip on reality, when in fact the opposite is true.RollingLaugh
 
But you'll let this guy bant and ridicule numerous others of our fan base on this board..
But it's ok when YOU talk down to everybody... right? This is Merica!!!! I have a right to say what I want! Lol
 
But it's ok when YOU talk down to everybody... right? This is Merica!!!! I have a right to say what I want! Lol

You talk down to everyone every chance you get .....

Normal once it a while but not for you....
 
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