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Nebraska 5-7 record with win on Black Friday, wow ...

I definitely don't see us going 5-7. That's for dam certain. If Lee is anywhere as good as coaches are hoping, our record could be pretty good this year. Then the next few seasons following, with the talent we out loading up on....we should start pulling ahead in the West.
 
All I needed to see to completely trash this was their "data driven sports predictions". They're using the same bunch of data that makes ESPN predict roughly the same thing. But sports is not about plugging in a bunch of data and getting a result. All they see is-we are replacing most of our offensive production from last year, thus we will struggle on offense. When you use assumptions that simplistic, you end up with crap predictions like this. I'm not sure which is more ridiculous-us going 5-7 or Wisconsin going 12--0.
 
I definitely don't see us going 5-7. That's for dam certain. If Lee is anywhere as good as coaches are hoping, our record could be pretty good this year. Then the next few seasons following, with the talent we out loading up on....we should start pulling ahead in the West.

I see us being competitive and could win it in most (the majority) of our games because of the new defense and because of Lee. But considering what we have as an offensive line and their ability (both physically and coached) then ya maybe 5-7.
 
Just not a Riley-Special...you know that 5 or 6 win season with a big upset over a top ranked team. Kind of gives you the warm and fuzzies but then you look back and realize you lost to about 4 teams that you should have beat with ease.
 
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Just not a Riley-Special...you know that 5 or 6 win season with a big upset over a top ranked team. Kind of gives you the warm and fuzzies but then you look back and realize you lost to about 4 teams that you should have beat with ease.
Did Riley consistently lose to 4 teams a year he should have beaten with ease? I'm calling BS...

Edit: 2015 notwithstanding...

Ok, maybe you make a good point. :)
 
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Phil Steele has Wisconsin at 12-0 also I believe. They've got a nice team coming back and an even better schedule.

Have you seen their schedule? Have you also noticed they return 18 players who have started games including 7 of their 8 starting Linemen?
 
Michigan will play in Madison, under the lights as well. I think the Wolverines will be a little too young to handle that Environment.
We will see. I guess I just am not seeing Wisconsin as some kind of intimidating juggernaut. Crap, we almost beat them in Madison last year, and probably should have. Sure they have had our number, but I am not buying into the idea that they are unbeatable. Far from it
 
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Have you seen their schedule? Have you also noticed they return 18 players who have started games including 7 of their 8 starting Linemen?
I understand they have a fairly favorable schedule and all that. However, Wisconsin's offense was fairly "meh" last year (89th in Total Offense and 67th in Scoring Offense), so the fact that they have returning starters on that side of the ball isn't exactly a reason to be thinking of them as world beaters or anything. At least statistically, Bart Huston, who was a senior last year, was the better QB, Alex Hornibrook was good, but not outstanding or anything like that. They are also a more run oriented team (104th in Passing Offense vs 39th in Rushing Offense) and lost their top two rushers from last year. Their defense is really what carried them, and I know they have a lot returning on that side, but they will have a new DC. It may not have much of an effect, but you never know.

All of that is say, I understand they have a lot returning, and have a fairly favorable schedule. Their cross-division games are against Indiana, Maryland and Michigan. Not quite the easiest 3 they could get, but pretty close. Still, they do have to play Nebraska on the road, which won't be a gimme. A lot of people also seem to forget about them barely squeaking by Georgia State last year, a team that was winless at the time, and finished 3-9 with those 3 wins coming against an FCS school and two Sun Belt schools that, like them, had only recently moved up from FCS. Georgia State lead that game in the 4th quarter, and Wisconsin never completely put them away. If they play a game like that one against, say, BYU on the road, they could very easily lose.

So, while it certainly isn't completely outside the realm of possibility they would go 12-0, it isn't exactly likely either. Lots of teams, including ones more talented than Wisconsin, have slipped up at some point in recent years, so it easily could happen to them.
 
I understand they have a fairly favorable schedule and all that. However, Wisconsin's offense was fairly "meh" last year (89th in Total Offense and 67th in Scoring Offense), so the fact that they have returning starters on that side of the ball isn't exactly a reason to be thinking of them as world beaters or anything. At least statistically, Bart Huston, who was a senior last year, was the better QB, Alex Hornibrook was good, but not outstanding or anything like that. They are also a more run oriented team (104th in Passing Offense vs 39th in Rushing Offense) and lost their top two rushers from last year. Their defense is really what carried them, and I know they have a lot returning on that side, but they will have a new DC. It may not have much of an effect, but you never know.

All of that is say, I understand they have a lot returning, and have a fairly favorable schedule. Their cross-division games are against Indiana, Maryland and Michigan. Not quite the easiest 3 they could get, but pretty close. Still, they do have to play Nebraska on the road, which won't be a gimme. A lot of people also seem to forget about them barely squeaking by Georgia State last year, a team that was winless at the time, and finished 3-9 with those 3 wins coming against an FCS school and two Sun Belt schools that, like them, had only recently moved up from FCS. Georgia State lead that game in the 4th quarter, and Wisconsin never completely put them away. If they play a game like that one against, say, BYU on the road, they could very easily lose.

So, while it certainly isn't completely outside the realm of possibility they would go 12-0, it isn't exactly likely either. Lots of teams, including ones more talented than Wisconsin, have slipped up at some point in recent years, so it easily could happen to them.

I'm aware. But They don't have to be an offensive juggernaut with that schedule. The only way they truly "slip up" is if some injuries effect them on the defensive line. Their depth along the defensive front is really young. I think that would incite some chinks in their armor. Their secondary is a weakness and really benefits from all the disruption created by the front 7. Get rid of that disruption and I think teams then can really force the Badgers out of their comfort zone.
 
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Wisconsin schedule:

Utah State
FAU
@ BYU
bye
Northwestern - Wildcats won there in '15
@ Nebraska - close game in '15
Purdue
Maryland (HC)
@Illinois
@ Indiana
Iowa - Hawkeyes won there in '15
Michigan - Lost in Ann Arbor, and when not playing Minnesota vulnerable on Senior Day
@ Minnesota - Badgers have owned for 12 straight seasons

fwiw
 
I don't see Wisconsin beating Michigan.

I think we beat them in Lincoln this year too. It will probably be a night game.

Uhm, Michigan is not only playing in Madison, but isn't bringing back enough starters for any of us to guess how good they will or will not be. They'll have that talent, sure, but they're going to be really young. A young inexperienced team in a hostile environment against a physical team returning a lot of play time. If I were a betting man I'd put the farm on the rodents controlling that game and winning comfortably.
 
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Uhm, Michigan is not only playing in Madison, but isn't bringing back enough starters for any of us to guess how good they will or will not be. They'll have that talent, sure, but they're going to be really young. A young inexperienced team in a hostile environment against a physical team returning a lot of play time. If I were a betting man I'd put the farm on the rodents controlling that game and winning comfortably.
We will see. Michigan, despite their youth, has better talent than Wisconsin. And by the time they play, a lot of those young players will have seen a lot of action against some good teams.

Wisconsin has had our number, but let's not turn them into world beaters. We have come within a whisker of beating them the past two years. And we ain't no juggernaut. They are a solid, physical, well coached, good team. But they can be beaten.

Michigan will beat them. So will we.
 
A lot of games to be played between now and Nov 18.

Michigan has to play Florida and at Penn St. Wisconsin is at Nebraska and vs Iowa the week before.
 
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https://athlonsports.com/college-football/wisconsin-football-game-game-predictions-2017
 
Wiscy has a cake walk of a schedule, but Nebraska has a better chance of going 12-0. No way those canadians beat Nebraska this year.
 
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Wisconsin won in 2014 with a 5-1 record against Big Ten West teams. Iowa and Wisconsin were 6-0, respectively in 2015 and 2016.

The lone loss in 2014 was at Northwestern.

The margin of error for Iowa, Nebraska or even Northwestern are less. Iowa and Nebraska get both OSU and PSU, while Northwestern gets just PSU.
 
I still have the video on my phone of the ref in the end zone last year smiling and slapping the ass the Wisconsin player after they scored their first TD against us last year.
 
Wisconsin is 4-1, spliting with Nebraska in 2 games played in 2012. 3-0 since opening in the B1G West, so the 2017 game will certainly be of great interest, after losing 3 straight.

Of course, rival Minnesota has lost 13 straight to UW.

Barry Alvarez, proud Nebraska alum, has done well, since his assistant days at both Iowa and Notre Dame.
 
Find the ability to stop 2 plays and we can beat Wisconsin.

Yes they run about 2 plays to beat us.

Off tackle and jet sweep.
 
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