Mo Washington seems to be in trouble

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Did you read the article?

Taylor alleges the teen boys in the video forced her into having sex after telling her they were going to a fast food restaurant. NBC Bay Area is not naming the teens because they were juveniles at the time and were never charged with sexual assault.

“They’re driving this way, and I’m like, ‘Jack in the Box is back that way,’” Taylor said. “And I said that probably 30 times to them, and eventually they pulled over at this park, with houses on the left hand side, and they’re like, ‘We’re going to have a threesome.’”

Taylor said she froze, terrified.
Doesn't sound legit.
 

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Don't want to speak for Beav, but these kind of stories are ones that can get national play and given that nature of the it, can give the program in question a black eye. One of the dictums of PR and damage control is if you are explaining, you are losing control of the narrative. If the kid was expelled from Trinity over the incident, one could argue that the expulsion was the punishment. But then NU has to answer as to why they wanted the kid on the team and whether there were any interventions taken to reduce the chance that Mo would engage is such stupidity when at NU (I suspect the answer is no). I think Frost saw him as a must have, with skill set that could be used in many ways. And given the academic issues (and likely his stupid revenge porn antics), he was available to get. The PR hit was to happen down the road and the program would cross that bridge when it appeared in front of them. Probably no way to make this look good and that cake was baked before he got to campus. Mo's skills in Frost's offense uber alles. Very 90s.
Exactly. Sounds like they knew not just that it happened but that it was being pursued as a criminal matter prior to his arrival on campus. The climate around crimes against women already was what it was at that time. It's not like they can argue they didn't think anyone would regard it as a big deal.

So the only way it doesn't strike me as really dumb that they've been silent on this is if they're betting on sitting him out for the Spring Game and everyone forgetting all about it by the time real games roll around in the fall. Which they will forget.

Would that work? Absolutely. However it's a lot more slimy and underhanded than the image SF & Co. have sold of themselves publicly. He's been very shrewd with his opportunities in front of a mic to this point, I'd like to think he'd handle something like this better.
 
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In late 2014, Bruning, together with Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, filed a suit in the Supreme Court of the United States in which they asked that Colorado's Amendment 64, which legalized marijuana in that state, be struck down. Bruning and Pruitt argued that the Colorado measure violated the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution, since the U.S. Congress had enacted the 1970 Controlled Substances Act, which imposed a nationwide ban on marijuana.[19][20] In connection with the suit, Bruning declared that marijuana was a "gateway drug that is a detriment to society" and that "I don't want it to be a legal option for my children or your option or anyone's children in this state or in this country."[21]
He argued the state's case in the Supreme Court. That was his job That is VERY different than handling a minor accused with selling a few grams of pot. You have to be a pretty major dealer for the State Attorney General's office to get involved with a marijuana charge.
 
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SC_'sker

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What percentage of sexual assault cases end up with the woman lying about it? You may want to change your answer.
About 2/3 of them? IDK the percentages, but I know it happens a lot especially in cases like this and cases where race is a factor (could be in play here).
 

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He was not involved in what happened on the video, nor was he even present. Whether it was consensual or not has absolutely zero to do with Mo.
Agree. I was responding to dingle's post when he said at the time "to repeat, It was consensual sex between teens."
 

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Statement from Nebraska Athletic Department:

“Last fall we were contacted by the Nebraska Attorney General’s office and the University of Nebraska-Lincoln police department and made aware that officials in California were interested in interviewing Maurice Washington about a prior incident. Details were not shared and there was no additional follow up with the Nebraska Athletic Department. Recently, we were made aware that charges may be filed against Maurice in California. We have not had a chance to review the charges, and will continue to monitor this ongoing legal process.”
 

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Don't be stupid, you know I didn't say that.
Oh I'm sorry, it's not *all* of them it's just probably this one based on your (please read with full sarcasm) very detailed knowledge of the case and persons involved. Please, don't let me distract you from not finding the stats on your "like 2/3 of them" claim because they don't exist.
 
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What did he do on Twitter?
Had to do with an Iowa fan trolling Mo and Mo got pretty vulgar. Something Scott Frost wouldn't want him tweeting out I'm guessing.

I mean the Iowa fan had it coming just for being an Iowa fan, but it showed some of Mo's true character....
 
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Oh I'm sorry, it's not *all* of them it's just probably this one based on your (please read with full sarcasm) very detailed knowledge of the case and persons involved. Please, don't let me distract you from not finding the stats on your "like 2/3 of them" claim because they don't exist.
And you have very detailed knowledge of the case and persons involved? Didn't think so.

The reality is that this particular case fits the same mold as other false allegations. If there were any chance that this was an actual assault/rape, there would've been a much harsher punishment for the individuals involved.
 

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Yeah, this sounds pretty terrible. Mo should never have sent anything nor should he have kept the video. I can imagine a suspension coming, just for the stupidity of the actions and how messed up and disrespectful that is, and who knows, it's entirely possible that he could and should be prosecuted in California.

It's smart to wait and see from our standpoint as fans and social media ding dongs; I am not sure what I would do in Frost's shoes, though. Is it smart to adopt a wait-and-see approach (especially if not all facts are known yet), or is it good to jump on it quickly and make an example of Washington? And if so, how severe should the punishment be?

A lot to consider, going forward.
 

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And you have very detailed knowledge of the case and persons involved? Didn't think so.

The reality is that this particular case fits the same mold as other false allegations. If there were any chance that this was an actual assault/rape, there would've been a much harsher punishment for the individuals involved.
Oh yeah? Which ones?
 

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As for false allegations versus actual assaults, I can tell you that anecdotally, I've known a couple of women that have without a doubt lied about their experiences for attention or to get back at someone.

Having said that, those are only a couple of examples of some really bad, unstable, manipulative individuals; the vast majority of these things are legit, don't get reported often enough, and are absolutely something to be taken very seriously.
 

Hoosker Du

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He probably made an honest mistake and accidentally sent the wrong file attachment to the wrong person. If true, than he's toast.
Yeah, I'm sure that's what he did. It was done with the intent to shame the girl. With moronic decisions like this, we now know why this kid barely made it academically. Stupid stupid stupid!!
 

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The people actually in the video.
No I'm just waiting for you to produce a single shred of evidence to justify you talking like you're some kind of "false rape story" expert over here. I mean you are, right? You're a detective, or at least a social worker, ER doctor, somebody who has anything at all to do with actually knowing what percentage of rape accusations are later admitted to be false?

I mean surely you wouldn't pull something that obnoxious and inflammatory straight out of your ass, right?
 
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No I'm just waiting for you to produce a single shred of evidence to justify you talking like you're some kind of "false rape story" expert over here. I mean you are, right? You're a detective, or at least a social worker, ER doctor, somebody who has anything at all to do with actually knowing what percentage of rape accusations are later admitted to be false?

I mean surely you wouldn't pull something that obnoxious and inflammatory straight out of your ass, right?
Beav's on fire today!
 
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Want to put a wager on that? Did some if you even read the article or just the title?
I read the entire article and he should be gone...immediately. I don't think we should be fighting to keep a kid like this, because it will cost us big time in the press.
 

SC_'sker

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Clearly you're just trolling.
Not even close. Depending on the source, unfounded allegations make up close to 40% of rape accusations.

Anecdotally, I can tell you that in all but one of the cases where I had heard that someone was raped or assaulted, the allegations turned out to be completely false. In those cases the embarrassment of people finding out was usually what spurred the false claims.
 

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Not even close. Depending on the source, unfounded allegations make up close to 40% of rape accusations.

Anecdotally, I can tell you that in all but one of the cases where I had heard that someone was raped or assaulted, the allegations turned out to be completely false. In those cases the embarrassment of people finding out was usually what spurred the false claims.
Anecdotal evidence isn't really great...that's why I qualified my statement that I've known of a few liars in my time, but also that the vast...VAST majority of these things are legit.
 
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I read the entire article and he should be gone...immediately. I don't think we should be fighting to keep a kid like this, because it will cost us big time in the press.
Not trying to start any crap, sincerely asking, what makes you think he should be gone immediately? Just curious.

I stated before that some punishment right now is probably a good idea (like, issue a suspension until further details come are made available), but that it is hard to know what to do while the legal stuff is being sorted out.
 

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Anecdotal evidence isn't really great...that's why I qualified my statement that I've known of a few liars in my time, but also that the vast...VAST majority of these things are legit.
I agree about the anecdotal evidence not painting the entire picture. This case is just so similar to ones that I'd heard about that were false accusations though.

Regardless, 2% is a low figure. Obviously beaver and O are super triggered right now, so it's no use reasoning with them at the moment.
 

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My brother was accused of rape in college. Some girl got drunk with him at a frat party, hung out with him all night, and ended up in his room at the frat house until the wee hours of the morning. The next morning, she walked home and then accused him of rape. It took MONTHS for the truth to come out. Fortunately, his roommates testified to her knocking on his door after he had already returned to his room for the night. She just found his room and then climbed in bed with him. Her boyfriend was pissed that he couldn't find her until the next morning, and rather than tell him that she had cheated on him, she told him she was raped. Finally when her friends testified against her "rape" story, he was cleared.

Maybe her word is enough to convince you that she was raped. So far, there isn't much outside of her saying she was raped that backs up that accusation. There will be plenty of time to rip this kid once we find out the facts. Until then, what's the trouble in sitting tight and waiting for the story to get put together?
I have a few buddies that have been falsely accused. Their lives are still ruined even after the women were proved to have lied or admitted they fabricated the whole story. Falsely accusing someone of sexual assault needs to be punished just as hard as sexual assault.
 

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Not even close. Depending on the source, unfounded allegations make up close to 40% of rape accusations.

Anecdotally, I can tell you that in all but one of the cases where I had heard that someone was raped or assaulted, the allegations turned out to be completely false. In those cases the embarrassment of people finding out was usually what spurred the false claims.
Depending on WHAT source? You have cited zero sources.
 
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Not even close. Depending on the source, unfounded allegations make up close to 40% of rape accusations.

Anecdotally, I can tell you that in all but one of the cases where I had heard that someone was raped or assaulted, the allegations turned out to be completely false. In those cases the embarrassment of people finding out was usually what spurred the false claims.
I don't know, but to me, it does seem like it could be a case of the girl not being completely transparent. That being said, it was one of the dumbest things M. Washington could have done to send the video to her with that caption. I mean super dumb. I don't think he leaves Frost any choice other than to boot him. We'll get eaten alive by women's groups.
 

HuskerO

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I agree about the anecdotal evidence not painting the entire picture. This case is just so similar to ones that I'd heard about that were false accusations though.

Regardless, 2% is a low figure. Obviously beaver and O are super triggered right now, so it's no use reasoning with them at the moment.
No one is triggered. You're just sounding like a complete moron.
 

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Who cares about false allegations with regards to Washington’s involvement?

He is being charged with having in his possession a copy of a sex tape where 3 minors were having sex. He then decided to distribute that video to someone that was not the “owner” of the video.

Him having having that video and dispersing said video, is no different than you or I doing the same thing. That is the crime.

The rest of the ancillary bullshit is just so irrelevent and nothing more than people trying to defend a football player and the Nebraska athletics department

Speaking of the statement, that is a text book definition of trying to establish plausible deniability.
 
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