i thought the same as far as the players go, but i guess his antics have lost a lot of love over the years.
its unfortunate. while i think he can be an idiot at times, he's been damn successful.
Almost as successful as Bo Pelini.
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i thought the same as far as the players go, but i guess his antics have lost a lot of love over the years.
its unfortunate. while i think he can be an idiot at times, he's been damn successful.
I guess some ideas are more equal than others.
i thought about that after i posted...Almost as successful as Bo Pelini.
No I wouldn’t because the only the crappiest players on his team would have a problem w a coach wearing a BLM shirt. Read it on Breitbart, racists are horrible athletes and among the laziest in society.Would you say that if he had a BLM shirt on...I guess some ideas are more equal than others.
Go Blue!
Feelings aside, it's a ****ing shirt. IBTL
It's his right. Probably wouldn't help him In his career. His right though, nonetheless. Feelings aside. Weak ass argument.So's this. Should he wear this one too?
Yeah and it would be OSU's right to fire him if they wanted. Rights and privileges and terms of employment are all different things.It's his right. Probably wouldn't help him In his career. His right though, nonetheless. Feelings aside. Weak ass argument.
That's the beauty of it all. You can wear a swastika shirt if you want, but you will soon be outed as a radical racist, and disassociated from rational society, fired from your job, or have your business boycotted. Let people be who they are. If OSU thinks it's wrong or racist, fire his ass and move along. But for a vaguely racially insensitive shirt to be a tipping point in a culture of overt racism...I dont want to ruin this thread.Yeah and it would be OSU's right to fire him if they wanted. Rights and privileges and terms of employment are all different things.
It's his right. Probably wouldn't help him In his career. His right though, nonetheless. Feelings aside. Weak ass argument.
K buddy. I understand why there was offense. But I believe in addressing issues with the people you have issues with, especially if it's your coach, Not just crying online for attention. Dumb idea to wear the shirt, but also funny to me that it causes so much emotional pain. Dangerous world when your canceled or chastised for something on your shirt.Unlike your strong, thoughtful contributions to this thread, right?
That's my whole point. It's his right but that doesn't make it a wise decision. In fact, given his profession, it's a downright dumb or ignorant choice.
And it's that willful ignorance I'm railing against. Have whatever opinion about BLM or all of the current social unrest that you want. But people act like they don't understand why anyone might possibly be offended. It's just a "news" network. It's just a t-shirt.
Talk about your weak-ass, lazy arguments.
That's the beauty of it all. You can wear a swastika shirt if you want, but you will soon be outed as a radical racist, and disassociated from rational society, fired from your job, or have your business boycotted. Let people be who they are. If OSU thinks it's wrong or racist, fire his ass and move along. But for a vaguely racially insensitive shirt to be a tipping point in a culture of overt racism...I dont want to ruin this thread.
If a t-shirt, that represents a news network that doesn't agree with the sum total of BLM (plenty of difference between supporting equal rights for minorities and all-in for BLM) triggers you...that is weak. Good grief we are a nation of the weak and intellectually lazy. Tired of unnecessary apologies.Unlike your strong, thoughtful contributions to this thread, right?
That's my whole point. It's his right but that doesn't make it a wise decision. In fact, given his profession, it's a downright dumb or ignorant choice.
And it's that willful ignorance I'm railing against. Have whatever opinion about BLM or all of the current social unrest that you want. But people act like they don't understand why anyone might possibly be offended. It's just a "news" network. It's just a t-shirt.
Talk about your weak-ass, lazy arguments.
If a t-shirt, that represents a news network that doesn't agree with the sum total of BLM (plenty of difference between supporting equal rights for minorities and all-in for BLM) triggers you...that is weak. Good grief we are a nation of the weak and intellectually lazy. Tired of unnecessary apologies.
K buddy. I understand why there was offense. But I believe in addressing issues with the people you have issues with, especially if it's your coach, Not just crying online for attention. Dumb idea to wear the shirt, but also funny to me that it causes so much emotional pain. Dangerous world when your canceled or chastised for something on your shirt.
I meant the player being triggered by a news network t-shirt. Not you, J.R. Glad he realized going to Twitter to join the ranks of the offended was not a great first step.For crying out loud. It's not the actual t-shirt or some bullshit fake news site. It obviously represented something larger for them, like the possibility that their coach might not actually view them as equal human beings.
They obviously overreacted out of emotion, but again, these are a bunch of 18-22 year olds that were already charged up before this.
I'm not personally triggered it. Not even close to being my hill to die on. I think Gundy was a dumbass more than anything else. If he was more self-aware, he could have avoided this whole mess. It was a misstep but one he'll easily survive unless something damning comes to light.
I'm also not defending the players at Iowa or OSU for the public way in which they handled their grievances. All I've argued throughout this thread is that it's not that hard to understand why something like that, however small it seems, would trigger a reaction given the racial tension in the country/world right now.
You don't have to agree with their reaction and obviously don't, but it's really not that hard to grasp unless you're digging your heels in deliberately.
He is a man but vacillates like a woman....
https://sports.yahoo.com/mike-gundy...ut-black-lives-matter-movement-215239802.html
He is a man but vacillates like a woman....
https://sports.yahoo.com/mike-gundy...ut-black-lives-matter-movement-215239802.html
Horrible athletes run the world, they don’t get bogged down by all this sh*t.No I wouldn’t because the only the crappiest players on his team would have a problem w a coach wearing a BLM shirt. Read it on Breitbart, racists are horrible athletes and among the laziest in society.
As in 99% of all thisHe's not in trouble. Its much ado about nothing.
This is only the beginning. They're canceling Aunt Jemima, now. I thought, for sure, Mr. Clean would have to go first, for obvious reasons. Not going to apologize for loving that syrup over the years!K buddy. I understand why there was offense. But I believe in addressing issues with the people you have issues with, especially if it's your coach, Not just crying online for attention. Dumb idea to wear the shirt, but also funny to me that it causes so much emotional pain. Dangerous world when your canceled or chastised for something on your shirt.
I'm glad to hear the RB apologized for not just reaching out to Gundy before he went the social media route but after hearing Gundy's "apology" i'm back to hoping the kid gets blackballed by the NFL and has to get a job in the real world and then maybe he'll realize how great he had it as a star RB at a P5 school on full scholly and that there are more important things to worry about than your coaches fishing attire.
Let me get this straight. People are behind OSU's rentention of Gundy because they don't feel like a small mistake made without intent should ruin someone's career. Keep in mind that Gundy has been at this for decades now and has enough money to retire comfortably tomorrow. Still, most feel the man deserves to keep earning and rightly so.
But a 21-year-old man less than half his age makes a mistake in overreacting due to emotion (ever do that when you were 21?), actually acknowledged the mistake and owns up to it with a public apology, and you still feel that all of his earning potential should be taken away forever?
This was also a kid that decided to forgo the 2020 Draft to return to OSU. If it was all about him, he could have cashed in already. His decision to return would seem to reveal a mature young man and great teammate who has his priorities in order.
But still, blackballed? Okay.
It’s amazing what people consider a “difficult” life to be these days.I'm glad to hear the RB apologized for not just reaching out to Gundy before he went the social media route but after hearing Gundy's "apology" i'm back to hoping the kid gets blackballed by the NFL and has to get a job in the real world and then maybe he'll realize how great he had it as a star RB at a P5 school on full scholly and that there are more important things to worry about than your coaches fishing attire.
The only reason he has a job is because of black lives? You are radical and think of everything through a racist lense. You are part of the very loud, angry, minority.The only reason Gundy has a job is because of black lives. The least he could do is be a little aware of the propaganda his new favorite channel puts out and see the immediate conflict of interest when it comes to that movement.
Doesn’t anyone else have a problem with this?
Black pride - OK
Hispanic pride -OK
Asian pride -OK
Gay pride - OK
White pride - racist