As far as I'm concerned Frost is our last shot. If he fails we will turn into Minnesota.
Might be bad sign if Frost doesn't get at least 8 wins
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NU doesn't follow a championship schedule....and honestly people would be happy if we had the success of wisconsin and did it with class. T.O got 22 years...
1. 30% of those dudes didn't win 8 games...
2. 14 dudes did win 8 games... Mark Helfrich, Larry Cocker, Gene Chizik were failed coaches..Brian Kelley and Kirby Smart, Jimbo are still undecided...some of the dudes on the list took over exceptionally talented teams... or even took over for other dudes on the list...I noticed Frank wasn't on the list...even though he finish 2nd in 2001...
3. So what you are saying is 11 out of 20 championship coaches won 8 games and became legendary coaches or coaches we would accept at NU...which is 55% Only 14 of those dudes would be acceptable by our long term standards. 7 of them won 8 games, 7 of them did not. So it is basically a coin flip or scientifically inconsequential. Even winning only 2 games doesn't mean anything because there is precedent...
4. Another reason all your work was pointless is that the first year is a single data point that is corrupted by strength of schedule, depth, and injuries. More research is needed. A valid comparison would be:
-Coach has to take over team that finishes in the bottom third of college football
-Team did not have any draft picks or all conference players from previous year
-Team loses all scholarship qbs
-Team hasn't won conference title or been to major bowl in 18 years
I bet Beamer and Bowden were in this category...none of the other coaches fall in this category...whatsoever. This is why Scott got a 7 year deal...the N on the helmet hit an all-time low last Thanksgiving.
"Might be bad sign if Frost doesn't get at least 8 wins."
Or...it might just be that you had too much time on your hands this morning when researching this post, and you created a narrative that means very little.
Or...it might just be that you had too much time on your hands this morning when researching this post, and you created a narrative that means very little.
Statistical nonsense.
If Frost does well, he’ll have done well. If he doesn’t, he will not have done well.
Didn’t Frost go 6-6 his first year then earn a share of the NC the next lol? I mean, that’s a pretty important exception to your rule considering he’s our coach now
He is indeed THE last hope, but if he gets 8 wins, I'm buying 5 rounds for everybody !!!
Well, maybe realize that, in the scope of things, 1.5 BILLION Chinese don't give a crisp !!!
Shhhhhh... Don't let the folks to the East know that their guy Ferentz actually went backwards his first year.
I wish Frost would focus on this more. He seems to put a huge emphasis on playing with energy, but our guys need to play smart as well. I'd honestly like to see the music cut out of practice for awhile and have our players more focused on their assignments, etc.This team also appears to need some extra mental strength and conditioning based on all of the mental errors Coach Frost keeps mentioning at the post game press conferences.
Here are some pretty good coaches that didn't exactly win big there first year and ended up OK.
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/10-national-championship-coaches-who-had-rough-starts
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/10-national-championship-coaches-who-had-rough-starts
Frost will turn things around. It just might not be in 2 years. And that's going to be hard for some people to accept.
Ya but he also took over a team with a ton of young talent (3 are now starters in the NFL). Also hit a HR with Milton. But lets be honest his core players came from school no further than 2 hours away (except for KZ). You have speed everywhere in the HS's in Florida and its much easier to recruit it when you can drive to do it on a weekday afternoon.
Oh so winning your conference and going undefeated means nothing?
I’m just as disappointed over losing to Troy, but it’s important to look at SFs history
And how many of those were coaches that 1) took over program in the toilet; 2) had their first game cancelled; 3) lost their starting QB to injury in week 1; 4) had their 2nd string QB transfer before the season started; and 5) play the ridiculous schedule NU has this season? History isn't saying what you think it says.
I expect Bo Pelini records, win 40% of games against the top 25, and keep game close against top 10 teams...and give good sound bites and respect the fans and media. And give us a chance to care in december about every 5 years. I maintain most fans were happy with Bo product until he lost his mind and his team got embarrassed time and time against on national t.v.
phuck that.
Imagine if we were the Goddamn Browns, praying for a win tonight.
Why did I hit that ML in-game?
Lol
