Michigan Pres is the Devil

dinglefritz

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enrollment in universities are, correct me if I’m wrong, entirely voluntary.

these elite universities have endowments in the billions - they must be doing something right

there are alternatives like Liberty for those so inclined
Unless we wanted to ship my kid off to a high school over 75 miles away, we had no choice but to have her take government and speech from Marxist high school teachers. Then those same people coached debate and other extracurricular events. They're nice guys. The students like them. When you give a person that much face time with your kid for 4 years of high school, there's no doubt they're going to be influenced. Additionally a friend who recently retired from teaching in our local high school came out of the closet as....gasp....a conservative Republican voter. He said, "there were exactly TWO of us in a school with over 1000 students, who admit to voting Republican. It's a rat's nest of socialists".

Yes you CAN send your kids to more conservative colleges IF you like. I would have loved it IF mine had chosen Liberty. That isn't within the budget of most parents and that may not be the choice of the student who has been indoctrinated by liberal teachers for 13 years. My experience over the past couple of decades with teachers is that the best and the brightest are not going off to college to become K-12 teachers. From what I've seen it's the average and lazy. But hey, a socialist agenda fits nicely with today's entitled youth.
 
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Unless we wanted to ship my kid off to a high school over 75 miles away, we had no choice but to have her take government and speech from Marxist high school teachers. Then those same people coached debate and other extracurricular events. They're nice guys. The students like them. When you give a person that much face time with your kid for 4 years of high school, there's no doubt they're going to be influenced. Additionally a friend who recently retired from teaching in our local high school came out of the closet as....gasp....a conservative Republican voter. He said, "there were exactly TWO of us in a school with over 1000 students, who admit to voting Republican. It's a rat's nest of socialists".

Yes you CAN send you kids to more conservative colleges IF you like. I would have loved it IF mine had chosen Liberty. That isn't within the budget of most parents and that may not be the choice of the student who has been indoctrinated by liberal teachers for 13 years. My experience over the past couple of decades with teachers is that the best and the brightest are not going off to college to become K-12 teachers. From what I've seen it's the average and lazy. But hey, a socialist agenda fits nicely with today's entitled youth.
you had a choice - it just wasn't enough of an issue for you exercise that choice
quite the conundrum - good luck
 

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Sending a 13 year old girl to a high school 75 miles away in another city was not a "choice" chump.
Unless we wanted to ship my kid off to a high school over 75 miles away, we had no choice but to have her take government and speech from Marxist high school teachers. .
"unless we wanted" -- sounds like a choice that you simply chose not to exercise
 

dinglefritz

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"unless we wanted" -- sounds like a choice that you simply chose not to exercise
Financially it was possible. Logistically it was not possible. We didn't WANT to subject our kid to 3 hours in a car every day of the week. Moving was not an option. Keep trying.
 

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Financially it was possible. Logistically it was not possible. We didn't WANT to subject our kid to 3 hours in a car every day of the week. Moving was not an option. Keep trying.
can't imagine not being willing to commit 3 hrs per day 5 days a week for one of my children if I believed their school was being taught by "Marxist high school teachers".

I guess it was just too much of an inconvenience to save the kids from the " Marxist high school teachers." -- to each his/her own - we all have our priorities

how are we ever going to save democracy if we aren't willing to exercise some of our basic freedoms of choice just because it is a bit inconvenient
 
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dinglefritz

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can't imagine not being willing to commit 3 hrs per day 5 days a week for one of my children if I believed their school was being taught by "Marxist high school teachers".

I guess it was just too much of an inconvenience to save the kids from the " Marxist high school teachers." -- to each his/her own - we all have our priorities
In our particular case we didn't find out about the government teacher's leanings until well in to my kid's junior year. When your kid is as immersed in team sports, dance, debate competitions and friendships you don't pull them out to send them a new school.

Keep trying. It's pretty evident from your posting history that a Marxist teacher teaching your kid wouldn't bother you. The ICU must be VERY slow today. I'm surprised you're not overwhelmed with COVID patients.
 

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In our particular case we didn't find out about the government teacher's leanings until well in to my kid's junior year. When your kid is as immersed in team sports, dance, debate competitions and friendships you don't pull them out to send them a new school.
Unless we wanted to ship my kid off to a high school over 75 miles away, we had no choice but to have her take government and speech from Marxist high school teachers. Then those same people coached debate and other extracurricular events. They're nice guys. The students like them. When you give a person that much face time with your kid for 4 years of high school, there's no doubt they're going to be influenced. A.
one government teacher in junior year is going to undue all the indoctrination the kids get at home?

can't tell from the various wording - whether the entire school is full of marxists (plural) or just the government teacher

sounds like all those extracurricular activities are also run by Marxists

some due diligence may have been in order .. do other parents know there is a marxist cult masquerading as a public school operating within the town's borders?
 
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Go to the 3:55 mark in the video. I think this 4th grade teacher should be fired. Doesn't 4th grade serve as a basis and foundation for the next grade? Shouldn't you follow the curriculum? Sounds like she's pushing her opinion. I think it's up to the parents to inform their kids about current day events not teachers.

 

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Makes me sick. The businesses and industries that will be decimated because of his decision can’t really be measured.
I get it the surface of this argument, but not when you dig just a layer deep. There was going to be capacity limitations, tailgating limitations and thus tourist limitations. Places with a business model that relied upon 7 Saturdays were going to be decimated anyway. That said, the carnage for athletic department salaries, and minor sports is really the biggest casualty.

That said - wish they were playing before few or no fans - for the players and all of our psyche.
 

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I get it the surface of this argument, but not when you dig just a layer deep. There was going to be capacity limitations, tailgating limitations and thus tourist limitations. Places with a business model that relied upon 7 Saturdays were going to be decimated anyway. That said, the carnage for athletic department salaries, and minor sports is really the biggest casualty.

That said - wish they were playing before few or no fans - for the players and all of our psyche.
Not totally true. If the 7 Saturdays allow those businesses to bring in sufficient revenue to supplement the rest of the year. We have a beach house on a private beach near Galveston, I only have to rent it out for about 15 weeks each year. Those 15 weeks pay the mortgage and taxes for the year, plus provide me enough money to do any repairs and maintenance. So I can use the house 37 weeks a year at no cost to me. If someone were to close all private beaches, and not allow me to rent the house for those 15 weeks, my ability to pay my mortgage for the year would be hindered greatly.
 

dinglefritz

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one government teacher in junior year is going to undue all the indoctrination the kids get at home?

can't tell from the various wording - whether the entire school is full of marxists (plural) or just the government teacher

sounds like all those extracurricular activities are also run by Marxists

some due diligence may have been in order .. do other parents know there is a marxist cult masquerading as a public school operating within the town's borders?
It was not ONE year in one class with one teacher.
The government teacher also taught A.P. History and was involved with extracurricular activities. The A.P. History students competed in multiple contests throughout the school year. My kid and her cohorts spent dozens of hours every week with the guy for several school years. As I said, he was a likeable guy who was handsome and easy to talk to. He left a good impression on teenage girls. I dealt with some of his students years ago in some other local youth programming I volunteered in. I wondered where their radical (considered mainstream by democrats today) ideas about government were coming from. Now I know.

One of the other large influencers was the socialist English teacher who coached debate. My kid competed on a national level in debate and given that her team spent roughly 3 hours virtually every night after school with him. That went on for 4 years and included multiple long trips in cars or vans to competitions. Yeah she spent WAY more time with her teachers and coaches than her parents. When you couple that with how the left controls most major news outlets and dictates internet content, a parent has little sway. IF you had kids you would know that for a teenager, Moms and Dads are ignorant old geezers who are stuck in the stone age.
 
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