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Mazzccua back in the portal

Rhule hasn’t been afraid to recruit over guys but do you take a one and done guard when you’re clearly building with high schoolers now?

Be nice if Rhule had the option to at least consider it... but I don't know how to feel about a kid on his third college choice...i'd like to hear some examples of it really working. I suspect there are a few but seems long shoty?
 
Take him. In a heartbeat. Our OL is not good. Fat, slow, cant block well. Many say we improved but that’s not saying much. I know some of that is on Satt’s shitty offense but that’s supposedly what we are going with.
Someone mentioned Jenkins, meh, he was mediocre. Some were barely mediocre on their best days. I don’t know what kind of leap we see from the OL but I see a bit of dead weight.
Piper, Luto, Knaak, Corc, Hood all better get better or hit the highway.
We shall see after spring ball
 
Treat him well, and he'll treat us (Raiola) well. It's the way of a lineman since Dan Marino vlbought isotoners for his guys up front.
 
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Take him. In a heartbeat. Our OL is not good. Fat, slow, cant block well. Many say we improved but that’s not saying much. I know some of that is on Satt’s shitty offense but that’s supposedly what we are going with.
Someone mentioned Jenkins, meh, he was mediocre. Some were barely mediocre on their best days. I don’t know what kind of leap we see from the OL but I see a bit of dead weight.
Piper, Luto, Knaak, Corc, Hood all better get better or hit the highway.
We shall see after spring ball
Not wrong...I think we have good young guys we have brought in but will take time. This kid is from Philly so that helps.
 
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Take him. In a heartbeat. Our OL is not good. Fat, slow, cant block well. Many say we improved but that’s not saying much. I know some of that is on Satt’s shitty offense but that’s supposedly what we are going with.
Someone mentioned Jenkins, meh, he was mediocre. Some were barely mediocre on their best days. I don’t know what kind of leap we see from the OL but I see a bit of dead weight.
Piper, Luto, Knaak, Corc, Hood all better get better or hit the highway.
We shall see after spring ball
Ah yes, the good old "hit the highway" post. A year ago at this time, similar comments were made on this board about Bryce Benhart (graded out as our best lineman) and Nash Hutmacher. And before that, some fans wanted to send Ty Robinson packing.

In a developmental program, it won't work like the Frost era. They are actually expecting players to improve rather than assume they will never get any better than they are right now. Young players are given reps and coached in practice rather than kept on the sideline and told to do "mental reps". They want to develop their own linemen.
 
How the heck does someone have a brother who weighs twice as much as him?
I know the Stoltenberg family. Mick is a giant man. His older brother is a normal sized guy. Skinny as a rail (at least in high school). Absolutely bananas that they can be so different body style-wise.
 
Take him. In a heartbeat. Our OL is not good. Fat, slow, cant block well. Many say we improved but that’s not saying much. I know some of that is on Satt’s shitty offense but that’s supposedly what we are going with.
Someone mentioned Jenkins, meh, he was mediocre. Some were barely mediocre on their best days. I don’t know what kind of leap we see from the OL but I see a bit of dead weight.
Piper, Luto, Knaak, Corc, Hood all better get better or hit the highway.
We shall see after spring ball
Sigh-some folks could win a stay at the Waldorf-Astoria and bitch about the room service.
 
Ah yes, the good old "hit the highway" post. A year ago at this time, similar comments were made on this board about Bryce Benhart (graded out as our best lineman) and Nash Hutmacher. And before that, some fans wanted to send Ty Robinson packing.

In a developmental program, it won't work like the Frost era. They are actually expecting players to improve rather than assume they will never get any better than they are right now. Young players are given reps and coached in practice rather than kept on the sideline and told to do "mental reps". They want to develop their own linemen.
Yep, might just help with recruiting, if players at any star level know their going to get better from the first day of practice as a freshman till they graduate.
 
Ah yes, the good old "hit the highway" post. A year ago at this time, similar comments were made on this board about Bryce Benhart (graded out as our best lineman) and Nash Hutmacher. And before that, some fans wanted to send Ty Robinson packing.

In a developmental program, it won't work like the Frost era. They are actually expecting players to improve rather than assume they will never get any better than they are right now. Young players are given reps and coached in practice rather than kept on the sideline and told to do "mental reps". They want to develop their own linemen.
I watched the games, the guys I named that actually played didn’t play well. The others didn’t play at Al really, but have been at a P5 for at least two years now. I understand there will be development and I like the looks of some of our frosh. But, we are currently 12 over and someone needs to move on.
Benhart improved, but not by all that much. Now that the staff is intact this year I would expect a jump. We shall see.
My point was that Mazzcua is good and proven and our OL is not. I don’t care if people say they are going to “develop” into better… they haven’t yet
 
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I watched the games, the guys I named that actually played didn’t play well. The others didn’t play at Al really, but have been at a P5 for at least two years now. I understand there will be development and I like the looks of some of our frosh. But, we are currently 12 over and someone needs to move on.
Benhart improved, but not by all that much. Now that the staff is intact this year I would expect a jump. We shall see.
My point was that Mazzcua is good and proven and our OL is not. I don’t care if people say they are going to “develop” into better… they haven’t yet
The Mazzccua kid did grade out well. I think he graded out higher than most of our starters if you go by what PFF says. But when he left Florida he had to hurry through the exit to avoid getting hit in the ass on the way out. It was a mutual departure. And like you said, we are over the scholarship limit. I think going forward Rhule will limit his transfers to areas of weakness and I don't think they see interior line as a weakness next year. So why take on a character risk?
 
The Mazzccua kid did grade out well. I think he graded out higher than most of our starters if you go by what PFF says. But when he left Florida he had to hurry through the exit to avoid getting hit in the ass on the way out. It was a mutual departure. And like you said, we are over the scholarship limit. I think going forward Rhule will limit his transfers to areas of weakness and I don't think they see interior line as a weakness next year. So why take on a character risk?
Well, certainly could be a character risk, and if so he’s a pass. And i do like all the OL we have that are Frosh and incoming frosh. But for sure it is an area of weakness until it isn’t.
I will say this though, the biggest problem is Satt…IMO
I’ll be interested to see if he is still the OC to start the 2025 season.
 
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Take him. In a heartbeat. Our OL is not good. Fat, slow, cant block well. Many say we improved but that’s not saying much. I know some of that is on Satt’s shitty offense but that’s supposedly what we are going with.
Someone mentioned Jenkins, meh, he was mediocre. Some were barely mediocre on their best days. I don’t know what kind of leap we see from the OL but I see a bit of dead weight.
Piper, Luto, Knaak, Corc, Hood all better get better or hit the highway.
We shall see after spring ball
JEJ was a redshirt freshman. Not worried about him at all.
 
I will say this though, the biggest problem is Satt…IMO
I’ll be interested to see if he is still the OC to start the 2025 season.
Reasonable question. We didn’t really have a quarterback this year. We lost our first (CT), and second (LS), string quarterbacks from last year, our 3rd string QB (CP) from last year was injured most of this year, and the replacement (Sims) Didn’t work out. So basically (With all due deference to HH, who I like) we were playing with last year’s fourth string quarterback for most of the year.
How many offensive coordinators could run offenses that look good with their fourth string quarterback?
 
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Our "much improved" line managed to help our offense average a whopping 13.5 points per game over the last four games of the season. If you are counting on those guys to get you 30 points per game next year . . . Well, God love ya, but you are going to once again end a season sorely disappointed and asking what happened - DR or no DR. Our line needs major upgrade. Perhaps we will get some of that from younger guys getting a year older, but Benahrt is maxed out. I don't care if he graded as our best lineman, he was still one of the worst starting tackles in the Big 10. I can't believe how many are perfectly happy standing pat with what we have given the results - including those over the last half of the season. Blame it all on the QBs if you want, but that's a fool's errand, IMO.
 
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The bottom line is his third school is going to be his last shot to produce. If he’s going to be the man that comes in and helps solidify the line great. If there’s any character issues to where he can make a problem for the Line then don’t want him anywhere near the state. I trust the coaches to be able to evaluate the character side because as a ball player, he looks like he can be productive
 
Our "much improved" line managed to help our offense average a whopping 13.5 points per game over the last four games of the season. If you are counting on those guys to get you 30 points per game next year . . . Well, God love ya, but you are going to once again end a season sorely disappointed and asking what happened - DR or no DR. Our line needs major upgrade. Perhaps we will get some of that from younger guys getting a year older, but Benahrt is maxed out. I don't care if he graded as our best lineman, he was still one of the worst starting tackles in the Big 10. I can't believe how many are perfectly happy standing pat with what we have given the results - including those over the last half of the season. Blame it all on the QBs if you want, but that's a fool's errand, IMO.
All of it? Nah, but the guys who touch the ball on every play, can’t pass for shit, and who turn the ball over like they’re paid to do it, get no less than 70% of the blame for low ppg. How that be.
 
Our "much improved" line managed to help our offense average a whopping 13.5 points per game over the last four games of the season. If you are counting on those guys to get you 30 points per game next year . . . Well, God love ya, but you are going to once again end a season sorely disappointed and asking what happened - DR or no DR. Our line needs major upgrade. Perhaps we will get some of that from younger guys getting a year older, but Benahrt is maxed out. I don't care if he graded as our best lineman, he was still one of the worst starting tackles in the Big 10. I can't believe how many are perfectly happy standing pat with what we have given the results - including those over the last half of the season. Blame it all on the QBs if you want, but that's a fool's errand, IMO.
Worst offense in a century? All is good here.
 
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