Ahh yes. Except, Japan is starting to spike. Inconvenient!
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Premature victory laps should be your posting handle.
Cut all discretionary spending from budgets and carve them down to bare bones too. Basically just fix roads like stated above. Amazing how fast the issue would solve itself
Wearing a mask in those countries was already part of its culture. Helps quite a bit when wearing one doesnt feel like a breach of personal liberty/freedom.
Japan and Taiwan have taken painstaking measures to control the spread of the virus, easing their social distancing restrictions in carefully planned phases. Good Lord man, you can't just keep clinging to the notion that Japan and Taiwan ain't done none o' that there social distancin' stuff and have it magically come true.
This week Japan finally resumed professional baseball with no more than 5,000 fans allowed in stadiums that seat 30 to 40K. Masks are required and yelling is banned - clapping and silent cheering only. But yeah, Japan just opened everything up with no restrictions - yew bet they did!
you need to learn how to read a graph and not be so easily manipulated by changes in the size of the Y axis
Japan has a population of 126 million people and a daily case count of 400 you are referring to as a spike - the largest single day case count was less than 800
Florida has a population of 21 million and is reporting damn near 10,000 cases per day
put Japan on Florida's graph where the Y axis has to be expanded to 10,000 and 400 cases doesn't even show up
by the way Japan is taking this uptick seriously with case tracking, etc - meanwhile Disney is open in Florida
Japan has tested less than 500k people total during COVID.
Japan has the lowest rates of coronary heart disease and obesity in the developed world.
Japan either got smart or got lucky. The jury is still out on which.
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any of you "experts" care to weigh in here? curious how this fits the narrative.
Japan has the lowest rates of coronary heart disease and obesity in the developed world.
Japan either got smart or got lucky. The jury is still out on which.
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any of you "experts" care to weigh in here? curious how this fits the narrative.
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You are a gift, and arguably the most fragile of all of the white. I mean, you are white, aren't you?
telling people to learn to read graphs while simultaneously being incapable of knowing which version of "their" to use is hilarious
you need to learn how to read a graph and not be so easily manipulated by changes in the size of the Y axis
Japan has a population of 126 million people and a daily case count of 400 you are referring to as a spike - there largest single day case count was less than 800
Florida has a population of 21 million and is reporting damn near 10,000 cases per day
put Japan on Florida's graph where the Y axis has to be expanded to 10,000 and 400 cases doesn't even show up
by the way Japan is taking this uptick seriously with case tracking, etc - meanwhile Disney is open in Florida
good one top gun -- go after the grammar that has absolutely nothing to do with what is being discussed
it has been corrected - thanks - it is great I have a free editor on the board
Japan has tested less than 500k people total during COVID.
Japan has the lowest rates of coronary heart disease and obesity in the developed world.
Japan either got smart or got lucky. The jury is still out on which.
thoughts, doc? testing that low surely puts new positives into context. or do I need to learn statistics, too?
i live in Texas... and I was able to keep my small business open. It’s a tricky AND difficult decision but what is good news is here in my county (large population) we’ve gone three days without a “COVID death”. You CANNOT open/close like a yo-yo and expect businesses to remain (and generate tax revenue), period.
We as a country are incredibly unhealthy to begin with...certainly wont help our cause fighting off a new virus
yep, and the demographics hit hardest rely the most on dear old gov't for nutrition. weird.
now who's picking things off topic to discuss?
that was a quote from the BBC, not my thoughts. curious how new positives, and general lack of testing, line up with the narrative.
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Youu will find a very large percentage of people who want to shut everything down again have never owned or operated a small business and are completely out of touch with how hard it is when times are good, let alone during the Chinese aids....and then an even larger percentage haven't lost their job yet so it doesn't affect them, so what the heck.
I reply to your specific post above concerning CADz - obesity and luck with a statement about CADz-obesity and luck and you claim it is off topic?
(note the above statement is awaiting final editing by topgun/john j rambo prior to being finalized)
The topic was the Lincoln Mayor was considering measures against establishments that were not following Gov Pete's covid guidelines. How did it get to this??
Number of cases is irrelevant. It's about number of hospital beds and respirators that are available.
It's also about number of deaths. And isn't the likelihood of dying from Covid going way down???
Can't hide forever....
It's also about number of deaths. And isn't the likelihood of dying from Covid going way down???
Can't hide forever....
as I said, that's a quote, not my thoughts. your picking that out is exactly like someone correcting your grammar. it's neither here nor there when it comes to covid response.
the question had to do with lack of testing, new positives within that context (instead of comparing apples-to-apples with FL, which, of course, is meaningless) and the general stance Japan has been a success story when their dealings with the disease has been just as hit and miss as others'.
boy, do you have a tough time when challenged.
Could you list the insightful news sources where you get your information on Japan?
4% obesity rate in Japan compared to 40% in the US
but, yea, wearing a mask + track and trace (while testing hardly anybody) is why they're having so much success
give me a break
but, yea, wearing a mask + track and trace (while testing hardly anybody) is why they're having so much success
give me a break
You are correct that the virus doesn't care about politics - but the politicians and media sure as heck do! That is the problem. They are the ones driving everything from a political perspective. Very few people, government agencies, independent groups, etc. have the courage these days to do what is right to manage the risk (there is no way to eliminate the risk completely).
if anyone in charge or on here actually cared about outcomes, the talk would shift 100% to getting healthy and building your immune system instead of gaining more control over the lives of individuals
but, the narrative!
but, the narrative!
each country is charged with optimizing their COVID response based on their particular population
- that includes testing, tracing, societal restrictions, messaging etc
Japan put an emphasis on strict masking, contact tracing - isolation of contacts with testing of symptomatic people - if you were in contact with a + person - you were assumed positive and told to isolate - they listened
our approach has been to test a lot without much direction of what else to do
the death rate in Japan is minuscule despite having the oldest population of any country on the planet
you are right - time will tell if it was intervention or luck - seems like quite a big gamble during a pandemic to look at Japan and say their success was just luck rather than try to learn from the measures they put in place
https://www.prb.org/countries-with-the-oldest-populations/
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it's a HUGE stretch to say their 'intervention' had more to do with their success than the population's overall health in general prior to covid.each country is charged with optimizing their COVID response based on their particular population
- that includes testing, tracing, societal restrictions, messaging etc
Japan put an emphasis on strict masking, contact tracing - isolation of contacts with testing of symptomatic people - if you were in contact with a + person - you were assumed positive and told to isolate - they listened
our approach has been to test a lot without much direction of what else to do
the death rate in Japan is minuscule despite having the oldest population of any country on the planet
you are right - time will tell if it was intervention or luck - seems like quite a big gamble during a pandemic to look at Japan and say their success was just luck rather than try to learn from the measures they put in place
https://www.prb.org/countries-with-the-oldest-populations/
the top 3 on your chart are the fattest. you want to talk about that, I'm all ears. but don't act like our mirroring their 'interventions' would've meant mirrored results in the US. they didn't even lock down, just encouraged avoiding crowds indoors.
what you're saying seems intellectually dishonest.
and again, the piece about luck you keep insisting on referring back to, wasn't my words.
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Well, if school kids start "getting sick and dying" that will be a new one for this virus. So far, it is less harmful to kids than seasonal flu, according to the CDC. Stubborn fact.
maybe the fact that Japan has the oldest population in the world somewhat offsets the obesity question
no intervention is going to change the underlying health of a country's population during this pandemic
you can institute the interventions mentioned
control the controllable
having a more at risk population may require stricter controls
OR they make money no matter how the economy goes (city, government jobs). If you want to sit out “the fight”, sit out...Wuhan out
The vast majority of recent cases have been in Douglas, Sarpy, and Lancaster counties. This isn't another case of a couple big flareups in meat packing communities.
https://covid19-nebraska.hub.arcgis.com/app/ece0db09da4d4ca68252c3967aa1e9dd
Also stubborn fact that kids and parents are too stupid to stay away from at risk people... but as we know from this board, they are expendable..
So you make appropriate adjustments to the health directives in those districts if needed. Keep in mind that 41% of hospital beds, 45% of icu beds and 80% of ventilators in the state remain available, and as I posted, the directives are in place to keep health care from being overwhelmed. No reason so shut down the whole state let alone the whole country.
Neither are at capacity. The wuflu patients are a small portion of total patients and the previous shutdowns caused issues with people waiting too long to come in when they had less cases and hospitalization.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-record-coronavirus-death-hospitals-icu-full This from Fox.
Florida hits record coronavirus one-day death toll, 54 hospitals at full ICU capacity. Statewide, officials reported a 17 percent availability of adult ICU capacity.
Florida hits record coronavirus one-day death toll, 54 hospitals at full ICU capacity. Statewide, officials reported a 17 percent availability of adult ICU capacity.
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