like Switzer said---its not the X s and Os---
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Gotta be able to coach them up as well. There are quite a few coaches in the country that couldn't win at Alabama like Saban does. The great ones separate themselves by making good to great players into champions.
Not that I wouldn't take all that talent Bama has and send it to Nebraska.
Not that I wouldn't take all that talent Bama has and send it to Nebraska.
Yep, recruit AND develop. Too many people can only do one (or none).
Yes. And people forget that players like Joel Wilks or Aaron Taylor were hardly anyone's high school AA's, but the coaches DEVELOPED them into damn good players. Don't remember too many Big Name schools coming into Grand Island and offering Phil Ellis a full ride.
Saban is clearly one of the best recruiters and coaches in the history of college football.
In addition, he's signed 125 players over the past five recruiting cycles. Nebraska signed 109. In other words, he's empowered to run off unproductive players, meaning those who don't live up to their four- and five-star rankings. He's signing 25 every single year and making room on the roster for those 25.
It's a fantastic formula:
1. Recruit better than anyone.
2. Get rid of those players who don't meet expectations.
3. Coach up the remaining players (already the most talented group in the country).
4. Win national championships.
Oh, and pick up grad transfers for spots that might need a little extra boost.
Why can't everybody do that, am I right?
Saban is clearly one of the best recruiters and coaches in the history of college football.
In addition, he's signed 125 players over the past five recruiting cycles. Nebraska signed 109. In other words, he's empowered to run off unproductive players, meaning those who don't live up to their four- and five-star rankings. He's signing 25 every single year and making room on the roster for those 25.
It's a fantastic formula:
1. Recruit better than anyone.
2. Get rid of those players who don't meet expectations.
3. Coach up the remaining players (already the most talented group in the country).
4. Win national championships.
Why can't everybody do that, am I right?
The Big 10 instituted a guaranteed scholarship to all football players while enrolled at a university back in 2014. That makes it a little more difficult if the player doesn't want to leave.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/
The Big 10 instituted a guaranteed scholarship to all football players while enrolled at a university back in 2014. That makes it a little more difficult if the player doesn't want to leave.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...t-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships/
This should be the case across the board in college football. Differing standards in college football will always be the reason for many problems that exist in it.
However is does help the Football Programs APR if he "goes" to class and graduates.
Like others have said it takes both talent and coaching. A big question is this years recruiting class. It looks like it will finish 15-25 range. I don't see the elite talent all over the place with this staff people were promising. I also don't see a staff who will coach lesser talent up to beat the likes of Michigan and Ohio State. At best, Riley has years like Pelini and at worst you saw it last year. It's hard to see the upgrade in this hire.
Nice try. So you're saying they don't put people in the league? Neb would stay within 3 TD's. You do realize they don't have the scholarships and that's about to show. Nice ignorant statement tho. I'll take the 3 stars with heart
let me know how the last 17 years have worked out.
Yup, cause USC, Florida, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Notre Dame, etc. are all polishing their national championship trophies they've won over the last 5 years with those jimmies and joes?
You can give Mark Banker all of Alabama's players and you wouldn't get Alabama's results on defense.
It takes coaching and talent. Saban wasn't going to win a title at Michigan State without talent, and Alabama wasn't going to win without a coach. It takes two to tango and its jaw dropping the amount of people that can't figure that out.
Nebraska will not compete for anything of substance without a coaching staff that can both coach and bring in top level talent. This is a fact and it plays out every year around the country. USC before and after Pete Carroll, Alabama before and now during Saban. Florida before and after Urban Meyer and so on and so forth.
You can give Mark Banker all of Alabama's players and you wouldn't get Alabama's results on defense.
It takes coaching and talent. Saban wasn't going to win a title at Michigan State without talent, and Alabama wasn't going to win without a coach. It takes two to tango and its jaw dropping the amount of people that can't figure that out.
Nebraska will not compete for anything of substance without a coaching staff that can both coach and bring in top level talent. This is a fact and it plays out every year around the country. USC before and after Pete Carroll, Alabama before and now during Saban. Florida before and after Urban Meyer and so on and so forth.
That's where great coaching and great players gets you..
Heck we've seen it here. Callahan thought all he had to do is recruit. He believed the players should know how to play when they showed up and didn't focus on player development. While Pelini believed he could put the stars on the recruits and didn't even bother to go after top talent. Haven't had both since Dr. Tom.
Nice try. So you're saying they don't put people in the league? Neb would stay within 3 TD's. You do realize they don't have the scholarships and that's about to show. Nice ignorant statement tho. I'll take the 3 stars with heart
What does the league have to do with anything?
What year are you even living in? USC is no longer on probation..
Nebraska before Bob Devaney, and after Tom Osborne. Just thought I'd throw that in there for historical reference.
with each additional year of irrelevance recruiting becomes more and more difficult
you can recruit citing a recent history of great success but we are crossing over into ancient history as far as 17 year old recruits are concerned. Most have little, if any memory of when Nebraska was a factor in the national landscape
the trophy room is impressive but it now more akin to a museum -
all those conference championships are in a conference that recruits haven't heard of -- what is the Big 8?
National titles are from 2 decades ago - most recruit weren't even born
no memory of the great Oklahoma/Nebraska tradition - as from a recruits perspective those two teams are in different conferences
go back and read the George Michael thread - that music that many of the younger posters have really never of heard of is what Nebraska football is to today's recruits
it is a tough tough sell in today's landscape
you can recruit citing a recent history of great success but we are crossing over into ancient history as far as 17 year old recruits are concerned. Most have little, if any memory of when Nebraska was a factor in the national landscape
the trophy room is impressive but it now more akin to a museum -
all those conference championships are in a conference that recruits haven't heard of -- what is the Big 8?
National titles are from 2 decades ago - most recruit weren't even born
no memory of the great Oklahoma/Nebraska tradition - as from a recruits perspective those two teams are in different conferences
go back and read the George Michael thread - that music that many of the younger posters have really never of heard of is what Nebraska football is to today's recruits
it is a tough tough sell in today's landscape
Can't argue anything in this post...well done sir. However, so many people can't see the challenges our coaches face on the recruiting trail.
I not sure that should really even matter. What should matter is what the current coaches have to offer them. No staff should just be selling the achievements of a different coaching staff. I'm sure history/tradition is brought up, but it shouldn't be the main selling point.
I have a hard time believing Saban took over the dumpster fire that was Alabama and landed the #1 recruiting class his 2nd year by telling kids all about what Bear Bryant did 30 years prior.
Recruiting is about being a salesman, either you're good at it or you're not (it's also about giving money, goods and sex but I'm not that'll fly here).
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