Lift Every Voice and Sing.

[Lincoln100]

i can. because i believe black lives matter. and thats what i believe the patches and shirts represent. you choose to want to believe that BLM means an organization. millions and millions dont think BLM is an organization it is a belief. stop thinking of the letters BLM meaning a very small organization and start thinking it is a very large believe system and you will get over your fear

There is no fear, as much as you continue to push that narrative. The only thing that matters is the truth, and that's what I want from BLM'ers. What, precisely, is the reason for the rise of this movement, at this moment? If someone is representing the black fist for the purpose of pushing a belief, what exactly does that mean? I have asked this more than once, and nobody really seems to be able to explain it.

Didn't see much, if any, push for any "changes" in the system (which in the last 3 or so months we have learned is racist to the core and filled with white supremacy) for eight years of Obama, despite there being a few high-profile deaths of black men. There were a few riots. Three separate investigations into the Ferguson, MO shooting (with no prosecution of the officer (but it is still somehow, someway, being used by the left as an example of "police brutality").

So here we are, BLM, the "belief," is what precisely?

 

[planored]

i can. because i believe black lives matter. and thats what i believe the patches and shirts represent. you choose to want to believe that BLM means an organization. millions and millions dont think BLM is an organization it is a belief. stop thinking of the letters BLM meaning a very small organization and start thinking it is a very large believe system and you will get over your fear

You are wrong, Black lives do matter as all lives. BLM the organization is a Marxist domestic terrorist group, stated by their leaders. If you support BLM Org, you need to be removed.

 

[jmliehr]

The white dude is not "from the Dakotas" and the white dude has a black niece and nephew. AND the white dude is the godfather of that niece. So F you whitey.

Ah, the black relatives do indeed qualify you as an expert on what is best for the entire community. I stand corrected

 

[jmliehr]

Your last full sentence is wrong. It's not an either or. AND plain and simple, IF you're innocent, when a policeman tells you to do something you do it.

Yes, or it gives them the constitutional right to execute you however they see fit.

 

[rod med fluede]

National commentators generally from left leaning networks have dubbed it the black national anthem. The NFL ran video footage non-stop of people in BLM masks while the song played pregame today. Last night a Fox Sports telecast focused in on the BLM logo in the outfield fence of the Twins stadium and paired it with some awkward testimony from their announcers. I'm sorry. I've watched what BLM protestors did to black owned businesses and public property. I can't support their actions. NOBODY in their right mind believes that black lives don't matter. The problem is that the actions of the BLM movement have done more damage to race relations and black people IMO than anything we've seen in decades. All they did was justify prejudice. It makes me sick. I'm the proud godparent of 2 great young black adults. NOTHING good came from those protests. NOTHING.

I have no doubts at all that the NFL would like its audience to believe that playing Lift Every Voice and Sing is a move endorsed by BLM (that would absolve them of actually doing something substantive about its reaction to player protests over the past several seasons, would it not?)

That still doesn't mean that BLM has anything to do with the performance you saw on TV, and it definitely doesn't mean that BLM wants "separate but equal" national anthems. The conversation here has been so completely off-the-rails in that regard, it's just embarrassing.

Say what you want about the radical left, but I don't think it's particularly interested in the kind of symbolic nonsense peddled by the NFL or "left leaning" networks. The reason players have been kneeling during the anthem is because they want fewer black men to die at the hands of police. Nobody is out in the streets demanding a damn song. If there's one thing that you and BLM activists have in common, I'd guess it's most likely a complete disdain for do-nothing liberal performative garbage.

 

[jmliehr]

This is such 5th grade thinking. Plenty of "white dudes" and white folk that are liberals telling us all about black people and what's best for them, but that's not a problem, is it? How about the millions of black people that don't associate the BLM? Wait, don't tell me, they're "Uncle Tom's" and the white libs know better than they do. And "no," as far as I can tell, you don't "think" at all, ever. Do yourself a favor and shut it down.

AKA known as fear of the mythical American socialist/communist by the group screaming out the other side of their mouths about how the left is living in fear of COVID.

 

[rod med fluede]

I have no doubts at all that the NFL would like its audience to believe that playing Lift Every Voice and Sing is a move endorsed by BLM (that would absolve them of actually doing something substantive about its reaction to player protests over the past several seasons, would it not?)

That still doesn't mean that BLM has anything to do with the performance you saw on TV, and it definitely doesn't mean that BLM wants "separate but equal" national anthems. The conversation here has been so completely off-the-rails in that regard, it's just embarrassing.

Say what you want about the radical left, but I don't think it's particularly interested in the kind of symbolic nonsense peddled by the NFL or "left leaning" networks. The reason players have been kneeling during the anthem is because they want fewer black men to die at the hands of police. Nobody is out in the streets demanding a damn song. If there's one thing that you and BLM activists have in common, I'd guess it's most likely a complete disdain for do-nothing liberal performative garbage.

Here is a take that I basically agree with, fwiw. "You can play ‘Lift Every Voice’ as much as you want, but it will not put a dime in anyone’s bank account... That song will not change anything."

 

[huskerfan66]

Yes, or it gives them the constitutional right to execute you however they see fit.

You are just flat out wrong and reflective of what the problem is

 

[Lincoln100]

AKA known as fear of the mythical American socialist/communist by the group screaming out the other side of their mouths about how the left is living in fear of COVID.

5th grade.

 

[Lincoln100]

. The reason players have been kneeling during the anthem is because they want fewer black men to die at the hands of police.

Once again, someone please show me anyone who doesn't want this. And how many black men are dying at the hands of police, and why? Let's really get to the bottom of it, instead of having to listen and see this mass hysteria and hate-filled crap. Does anyone want to have a legitimate conversation about it? I really don't think any liberal wants to discuss it. The truth doesn't matter, and fixing it, if there is anything to fix, isn't going to help them. What would they do without being able to play the race card? Without that, their party crumbles. And can it be any more transparent that the word racism, and black america, is nothing more than a tool for the democratic party? A year ago, Harris alleged Biden was a racist. Then, after she gets picked as VP, and asked about her allegation that Biden was a racist, she cackled and responded "it was a debate!" She's made it clear that she is perfectly fine with labeling someone a racist, so long as it gets her where she wants to go, regardless of the truth of it. It is thoroughly repudiating. What a complete and utter fraud.

 

[HuskerOH]

i can. because i believe black lives matter. and thats what i believe the patches and shirts represent. you choose to want to believe that BLM means an organization. millions and millions dont think BLM is an organization it is a belief. stop thinking of the letters BLM meaning a very small organization and start thinking it is a very large believe system and you will get over your fear

this is exactly what BLM stands for
blacklivesmatter.com
If you can ignore this or minimize this you are an idiot. Pull your head out of your butt.

 

[HuskerOH]

blacklivesmatter.com

 

[rod med fluede]

Once again, someone please show me anyone who doesn't want this. And how many black men are dying at the hands of police, and why? Let's really get to the bottom of it, instead of having to listen and see this mass hysteria and hate-filled crap. Does anyone want to have a legitimate conversation about it? I really don't think any liberal wants to discuss it. The truth doesn't matter, and fixing it, if there is anything to fix, isn't going to help them. What would they do without being able to play the race card? Without that, their party crumbles. And can it be any more transparent that the word racism, and black america, is nothing more than a tool for the democratic party? A year ago, Harris alleged Biden was a racist. Then, after she gets picked as VP, and asked about her allegation that Biden was a racist, she cackled and responded "it was a debate!" She's made it clear that she is perfectly fine with labeling someone a racist, so long as it gets her where she wants to go, regardless of the truth of it. It is thoroughly repudiating. What a complete and utter fraud.

Friend, I didn't argue any of those points. I'm arguing that no representative of BLM (that I'm aware of) petitioned the NFL for a separate anthem for black Americans, nor did the organization ruin Lift Every Voice and Sing. Their agenda might include the overthrow of capitalism or whatever else, but it just doesn't have anything to do with the allegations that started this thread. Pretty simple.

If you want to talk about whether Kamala Harris is a hypocrite, that seems like an odd turn, but fair play I guess? Personally, I'm not a fan. She isn't a member of BLM or the NFL, though, and I'm reasonably confident that she's got haters in both camps.

 

[dinglefritz]

Ah, the black relatives do indeed qualify you as an expert on what is best for the entire community. I stand corrected

I think it gives me a little more perspective than you whitey.

 

[dinglefritz]

Friend, I didn't argue any of those points. I'm arguing that no representative of BLM (that I'm aware of) petitioned the NFL for a separate anthem for black Americans, nor did the organization ruin Lift Every Voice and Sing. Their agenda might include the overthrow of capitalism or whatever else, but it just doesn't have anything to do with the allegations that started this thread. Pretty simple.

If you want to talk about whether Kamala Harris is a hypocrite, that seems like an odd turn, but fair play I guess? Personally, I'm not a fan. She isn't a member of BLM or the NFL, though, and I'm reasonably confident that she's got haters in both camps.

There were not allegations that started this thread. The FACT is that the NFL (and many others) have deemed it appropriate to promote the BLM political organization during the playing of Lift Every Voice before their games today. It's blatant pandering to a violent Marxist organization that has for political gain taken advantage of George Floyd's death. It's the new Rainbow Coalition shakedown organization. IF you don't want to be boycotted or protested against you better come out as supporting BLM.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

I agree that when some people say BLM they may not be saying they support the formal BLM organization. There are a few BLM groups in the metro area that do not endorse all the beliefs of the BLM organization. They just want to see change in systematic racism and that law enforcement is held accountable when brutality occurs. When I say that I support Black Lives Matter, I am usually called a socialist, a left wing nut, a cop hater, a promoter of rioting and looting etc. Many people seem to want to group everyone together. I am caucasion and I support the effort for community unity and police accountability ( and yes citizen accountability). I support law enforcement; I stood on the roadside during Herrera's funeral procession. I attended a couple of unity rally this summer...where the focus was on police brutality. My inner circle/ family consists of retired law enforcement, blacks, and a gay. So I refuse to choose. And that seems to be a theme...choose a side. Either you are for police or you are for the side that is wanting more accountability when unwarranted brutality does occur...and want to see change in institutional racism. And God forbid if you

Police brutality is such a joke. It’s the proverbial mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[dinglefritz]

The reason players have been kneeling during the anthem is because they want fewer black men to die at the hands of police. Nobody is out in the streets demanding a damn song. If there's one thing that you and BLM activists have in common, I'd guess it's most likely a complete disdain for do-nothing liberal performative garbage.

how about they STAND UP and do something about how many young black men die at the hands of each other. That's at least a thousand times more common than at the hands of cops.

 

[jmliehr]

I think it gives me a little more perspective than you whitey.

That’s pretty obvious that you think that.

Curious on why you keep using “whitey”, are you not white yourself? Did you choose the color of your skin?

 

[dinglefritz]

i can. because i believe black lives matter. and thats what i believe the patches and shirts represent. you choose to want to believe that BLM means an organization. millions and millions dont think BLM is an organization it is a belief. stop thinking of the letters BLM meaning a very small organization and start thinking it is a very large believe system and you will get over your fear

It is not fear. It is disdain for people using the needless death of a petty criminal to raise money for a political group. Bail funds alone according the the NY Times in June had raised over 90 MILLION to bail out criminals who perpetrated crime during the riots. You had to be pretty violent and over the line to get arrested during those things and people are donating millions to BLM to bail those knuckleheads out.

 

[Crazyhole]

Police brutality is such a joke. It’s the proverbial mountain out of a mole hill.

Literally every single person in the country can avoid police brutality. It never happens without a reason.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

That’s pretty obvious that you think that.

Curious on why you keep using “whitey”, are you not white yourself? Did you choose the color of your skin?

He chose his sex and his color you Neanderthal.

 

[huskeroption2003]

#BlackLivesMatter

 

[jmliehr]

how about they STAND UP and do something about how many young black men die at the hands of each other. That's at least a thousand times more common than at the hands of cops.

From 1995 to 2015 homicides and non-negligent manslaughter dropped 40% overall, but keep shoveling your BS theories that somehow people can/should focus on only one thing.

 

[TampaBaySkers]

#BlackLivesMatter

Were you cheering them on while BLM “protesters” were blocking off emergency room entrance after the two cops were ambushed in LA?

 

[TampaBaySkers]

From 1995 to 2015 homicides and non-negligent manslaughter dropped 40% overall, but keep shoveling your BS theories that somehow people can/should focus on only one thing.

What about 2015 to 2020?

 

[dinglefritz]

Literally every single person in the country can avoid police brutality. It never happens without a reason.

there are instances where a cop mistakes intent. My nephew is a cop. A black cop in Missouri. I can't imagine pulling over a car right now at night. Cops HAVE to be on edge. One wrong move and who knows what could happen. A friend who is a retired DCI agent told me one time, turn on your dome light and put your hands on the steering wheel if you're pulled over at night and don't do anything until they tell you to. More cops are killed in the line of duty than black men are killed by cops. You couldn't pay me enough to do what they have to do every single day of work. They walk in to homes on domestic disturbance calls virtually every day and there's been times recently where it's been an ambush.

 

[Crazyhole]

there are instances where a cop mistakes intent. My nephew is a cop. A black cop in Missouri. I can't imagine pulling over a car right now at night. Cops HAVE to be on edge. One wrong move and who knows what could happen. A friend who is a retired DCI agent told me one time, turn on your dome light and put your hands on the steering wheel if your pulled over at night and don't do anything until they tell you to. More cops are killed in the line of duty than black men are killed by cops. You couldn't pay me enough to do what they have to do every single day of work. They walk in to homes on domestic disturbance calls virtually every day and there's been times recently where it's been an ambush.

Exactly my point. Outside of Philandro Castille, come up with a single instance where a police officer engaged in anything where a crime hadn't been already committed or during the interaction the person didn't make a decision to escalate the situation.

 

[jmliehr]

More cops are killed in the line of duty than black men are killed by cops.

FBI says 37 LEO killed with intent in 2020.

There have been at least 161 black men killed by police this year.

Even at that, you’re a potato if you don’t realize that we need to work to reduce BOTH numbers. Less people should die at the hands of police, period. Black people are disproportionately killed by police. At the same time, out LEO’s need to come home safe and alive.

 

[WuTang_Husker]

This is such 5th grade thinking. Plenty of "white dudes" and white folk that are liberals telling us all about black people and what's best for them, but that's not a problem, is it? How about the millions of black people that don't associate the BLM? Wait, don't tell me, they're "Uncle Tom's" and the white libs know better than they do. And "no," as far as I can tell, you don't "think" at all, ever. Do yourself a favor and shut it down.

Member when Biden said you ain't black if you don't vote Democrat.
If I was Trump that piece of audio would be in every ad until election day.
That statement alone should lose Biden the election and yet all we hear from the brainless left is what a racist Trump is.

 

[dinglefritz]

FBI says 37 LEO killed with intent in 2020.

There have been at least 161 black men killed by police this year.

Even at that, you’re a potato if you don’t realize that we need to work to reduce BOTH numbers. Less people should die at the hands of police, period. Black people are disproportionately killed by police. At the same time, out LEO’s need to come home safe and alive.

nleof says an average of 163 law enforcement officers have died in the line of duty over the past 10 years. Of the 161 black men killed by law enforcement this year, how many of them were attempting to use deadly weapons on a cop? I can tell you without looking that virtually all of them were. IF you look deeply at the statistics you'll realize that it doesn't matter if you're black, white or orange when you assault a cop. What did the cop do to justify firing a weapon at them? We've got 350 million people in this country and roughly 18000 cops. Not all of them are going to make the right decision in every case.

BUT a study by the liberal bastion Harvard University concluded that the notion of systemic racism and police brutality are not statistically supported. As the father of a Harvard student I can assure you that those profs at Harvard wanted deeply to confirm widespread racism and brutality in the police. Those study results were confirmed by another Ivy League school's research. Individual knuckleheads? Sure. Do the riots change any of that? Nope.

 

[jmliehr]

nleof says an average of 163 law enforcement officers have died in the line of duty over the past 10 years. Of the 161 black men killed by law enforcement this year, how many of them were attempting to use deadly weapons on a cop? I can tell you without looking that virtually all of them were. IF you look deeply at the statistics you'll realize that it doesn't matter if you're black, white or orange when you assault a cop. What did the cop do to justify firing a weapon at them? We've got 350 million people in this country and roughly 18000 cops. Not all of them are going to make the right decision in every case.

BUT a study by the liberal bastion Harvard University concluded that the notion of systemic racism and police brutality are not statistically supported. As the father of a Harvard student I can assure you that those profs at Harvard wanted deeply to confirm widespread racism and brutality in the police. Those study results were confirmed by another Ivy League school's research. Individual knuckleheads? Sure. Do the riots change any of that? Nope.

This “study?

A 'Harvard Study' Doesn't Disprove Racial Bias in Officer-Involved Shootings

The New York Times inaccurately reported an unvetted working paper as a Harvard study that disproved the claim black people are shot by police at a higher rate than whites.

www.snopes.com

 

[dinglefritz]

This “study?

A 'Harvard Study' Doesn't Disprove Racial Bias in Officer-Involved Shootings

The New York Times inaccurately reported an unvetted working paper as a Harvard study that disproved the claim black people are shot by police at a higher rate than whites.

www.snopes.com

snope and the NY Times aren't trustworthy sources in my book. When your liberal editorial page editor quits because of intimidation by the young anarchists on staff that says a lot. As I said, the profs who did the research at Harvard were hell bent on finding systemic racism and it isn't there. I'm sure in light of this summer's riots the fine people at Harvard are regretting releasing such blasphemous information. The fact is that their original research found no such systemic racism in policing. Whether or not they attempt to amend their findings matters little now.

 

[jmliehr]

snope and the NY Times aren't trustworthy sources in my book. When your liberal editorial page editor quits because of intimidation by the young anarchists on staff that says a lot. As I said, the profs who did the research at Harvard were hell bent on finding systemic racism and it isn't there. I'm sure in light of this summer's riots the fine people at Harvard are regretting releasing such blasphemous information. The fact is that their original research found no such systemic racism in policing. Whether or not they attempt to amend their findings matters little now.

It was one person, and he’s not at Harvard currently. But it’s nice to see you pick and choose which “experts” to follow.

 

[redwine65]

Nebraska doesn't have a nfl team, thankfully, so I can ignore the nfl drama queens and fake national athemes

 

[huskeroption2003]

Were you cheering them on while BLM “protesters” were blocking off emergency room entrance after the two cops were ambushed in LA?

Not a convincing reason for black lives not mattering

 

[leodisflowers]

It was one person, and he’s not at Harvard currently. But it’s nice to see you pick and choose which “experts” to follow.

Take a Lap.

 

[OctavianDillard]

My response was

Friend, I didn't argue any of those points. I'm arguing that no representative of BLM (that I'm aware of) petitioned the NFL for a separate anthem for black Americans, nor did the organization ruin Lift Every Voice and Sing. Their agenda might include the overthrow of capitalism or whatever else, but it just doesn't have anything to do with the allegations that started this thread. Pretty simple.

If you want to talk about whether Kamala Harris is a hypocrite, that seems like an odd turn, but fair play I guess? Personally, I'm not a fan. She isn't a member of BLM or the NFL, though, and I'm reasonably confident that she's got haters in both camps.

My response was clearly directed at one comment that you made, not the entirety of your post. The discussion of Harris was not unusual at all considering it is her party pushing the narrative.

 

[OctavianDillard]

Not a convincing reason for black lives not mattering

Unless those cops are black, wait, never mind. A convincing insight into a certain segment of people.

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

It never crosses my mind I might be shot by cops.


I would never do what some of the people who get shot do prior to getting shot.

 

[BigRedRising]

The most dangerous place for a black baby to be, is in it's mother's womb. Black men are most likely to die at the hands of another black man. Time for some reflection from the BLM group if lives lost is a paramount issue.