Libs played politics with medicine, 500K died

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Their blood is on your hands. Trump was right (again). HCQ, the drug that has been around for a LONG time, is dirt cheap, doesn't make big Pharma rich and Fauci famous, actually works. If you give a patient on life support HCQ after the infection brings you to death's doorstep, nothing is going to work, but HCQ in medical testing has worked and does work when given early. Science deniers...I mean libs, fire away.

"Causal modeling establishes that weight-adjusted HCQ and AZM therapy improves survival by over 100%."


"Database of all HCQ COVID-19 studies. 300 studies, 222 peer reviewed, 250 comparing treatment and control groups. Submit updates/corrections below. HCQ is not effective when used very late with high dosages over a long period (RECOVERY/SOLIDARITY), effectiveness improves with earlier usage and improved dosing. Early treatment consistently shows positive effects. Negative evaluations typically ignore treatment time, often focusing on a subset of late stage studies. In Vitro evidence made some believe that therapeutic levels would not be attained, however that was incorrect, e.g. see"

 

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Trump should have insisted HCQ was used then. He was President. He didn't and 500,000 died. Ipso Facto Trump murdered 500,000.

Wonder why Trump didn't take HCQ when he himself caught the 'Rona?
Who said HCQ didn't lessen or eliminate the symptoms? Maybe he would have died had he not used HCQ?

And as far as insisting, he was listening to Fauci because the MSM and libs would have CRUCIFIED him had he not, and Fauci was on a mission to make money and become a hero. He couldn't be upstaged by Trump, so just like the libs, he played politics with medicine and Americans died. You're one of them too (not the death part, just the politicization of medicine). Instead of saying your sworn enemy was right about something, you would rather sacrifice other people...as long as you aren't affected! Just like a good little socialist.
 

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Their blood is on your hands. Trump was right (again). HCQ, the drug that has been around for a LONG time, is dirt cheap, doesn't make big Pharma rich and Fauci famous, actually works. If you give a patient on life support HCQ after the infection brings you to death's doorstep, nothing is going to work, but HCQ in medical testing has worked and does work when given early. Science deniers...I mean libs, fire away.

"Causal modeling establishes that weight-adjusted HCQ and AZM therapy improves survival by over 100%."


"Database of all HCQ COVID-19 studies. 300 studies, 222 peer reviewed, 250 comparing treatment and control groups. Submit updates/corrections below. HCQ is not effective when used very late with high dosages over a long period (RECOVERY/SOLIDARITY), effectiveness improves with earlier usage and improved dosing. Early treatment consistently shows positive effects. Negative evaluations typically ignore treatment time, often focusing on a subset of late stage studies. In Vitro evidence made some believe that therapeutic levels would not be attained, however that was incorrect, e.g. see"

What a load of shit.
 

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Who said HCQ didn't lessen or eliminate the symptoms? Maybe he would have died had he not used HCQ?

And as far as insisting, he was listening to Fauci because the MSM and libs would have CRUCIFIED him had he not, and Fauci was on a mission to make money and become a hero. He couldn't be upstaged by Trump, so just like the libs, he played politics with medicine and Americans died. You're one of them too (not the death part, just the politicization of medicine). Instead of saying your sworn enemy was right about something, you would rather sacrifice other people...as long as you aren't affected! Just like a good little socialist.
Ivermectin is the drug that actually seems to work.
 

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Nope as your God Dr. Fraudci said in his emails that mask do no good.
I prefer Flauci. Flauci says masks are no good, masks are good. I lied so first responders could get masks, and in his emails he says masks are worthless, but science changes on a daily basis in Flauci’s world. The guy is easily the biggest clown to come out of the covid fiasco with the blue state politicians who went into lock down mode and ruined businesses. I know Trump being called a fascist is the thing with the left, but they were the fascists with the lockdowns.
 

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Or get it and deal with it. Most people aren’t effected much unless you’re fat or compromised immune wise.
Still a lot of people in your "not affected" group that are hospitalized and long haulers.

My good friend lost both his parents who were decently healthy (both 60ish) and his sister was in the ER for two weeks (in her 30s) and they definitely are in that category. She still has struggles with it.

This misnomer that it doesn't affect healthy people is complete BS.

Sure. A lot will be fine. But even if .5% end up hospitalized or dead that would be 1.7M Americans.

My wife is 38 and had some pretty serious issues for 4-5 months after we both got knocked on our ass for a week and a half.
 

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Still a lot of people in your "not affected" group that are hospitalized and long haulers.

My good friend lost both his parents who were decently healthy (both 60ish) and his sister was in the ER for two weeks (in her 30s) and they definitely are in that category. She still has struggles with it.

This misnomer that it doesn't affect healthy people is complete BS.

Sure. A lot will be fine. But even if .5% end up hospitalized or dead that would be 1.7M Americans.

My wife is 38 and had some pretty serious issues for 4-5 months after we both got knocked on our ass for a week and a half.
Hypocrite. Lockdowns for thee, but not for me and my family! We get to party without useless masks, but you don’t even get to leave the house.
 

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Still a lot of people in your "not affected" group that are hospitalized and long haulers.

My good friend lost both his parents who were decently healthy (both 60ish) and his sister was in the ER for two weeks (in her 30s) and they definitely are in that category. She still has struggles with it.

This misnomer that it doesn't affect healthy people is complete BS.

Sure. A lot will be fine. But even if .5% end up hospitalized or dead that would be 1.7M Americans.

My wife is 38 and had some pretty serious issues for 4-5 months after we both got knocked on our ass for a week and a half.
I’m also not saying it’s not serious but most people will be fine. I can play the same game with the vaccine now saying some of the short term effects are screwing up people heart wise. They just did a study where one of the vaccines was giving people mainly 16-30 problems but it’s low number compared to how many people got the vaccine. It’s a very high amount of people who have problems with covid are obese. A lot of them are also deficient in vitamin D. People need to take care of themselves. It’s not accident we got hit hard. America is a fat country. I’ve known a lot of people who got covid. Any of them who were younger than 50 and in decent shape didn’t have major problems. I knew some people where it kicked their ass for a couple weeks but they didn’t go to the hospital and got better.


 
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I’m also not saying it’s not serious but most people will be fine. I can play the same game with the vaccine now saying some of the short term effects are screwing up people heart wise. They just did a study where one of the vaccines was giving people mainly 16-30 problems but it’s low number compared to how many people got the vaccine. It’s a very high amount of people who have problems with covid are obese. A lot of them are also deficient in vitamin D. People need to take care of themselves. It’s not accident we got hit hard. America is a fat country. I’ve known a lot of people who got covid. Any of them who were younger than 50 and in decent shape didn’t have major problems. I knew some people where it kicked their ass for a couple weeks but they didn’t go to the hospital and got better.


Your study says 78% of those hospitalized are overweight or obese.

In America, 73.6% of adults fit that description. If obesity were as big of a factor as you think, 90+% of people hospitalized would be obese.

If obesity/overweight played zero role, 74% of hospitalized patients would fit that description. So because 78% does, that really doesn't point to a "if you're not fat don't worry".

Instead it pretty much lines up with the population numbers suggesting that there's not much of a correlation.

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That reminds me of the statistic like 95% of accidents happen within 20 miles of you're house, well 95% of your driving happens there too.
 
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Yesterdays News! Trump in my mind is no longer relevant. Not worth wasting everybody's time talking about anymore,
 
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I don't demand sh*t. Vaccine is here and widely available to anyone who wants it, end any and all restrictions.
How about the "WHOA, what's wrong with you people? We're seeing another spike in the numbers!!! Triple mask or else you're killing my grandma" posts did you make throughout Covid? Most of them pointed at Trump when the person running the show was Fauci.
 
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How about the "WHOA, what's wrong with you people? We're seeing another spike in the numbers!!! Triple mask or else you're killing my grandma" posts did you make throughout Covid? Most of them pointed at Trump when the person running the show was Fauci.
False narrative. Only people still wanting to mask up are overly cautious folks who care more about the anti-maskers than the anti-maskers care about themselves.

Time for survival of the fittest now that the vaccine is readily available.

If people want to chance it, they are free to do so.
 

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False narrative. Only people still wanting to mask up are overly cautious folks who care more about the anti-maskers than the anti-maskers care about themselves.

Time for survival of the fittest now that the vaccine is readily available.

If people want to chance it, they are free to do so.
Which basket are you in there phusker? You still masking up or no?
 

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How about the "WHOA, what's wrong with you people? We're seeing another spike in the numbers!!! Triple mask or else you're killing my grandma" posts did you make throughout Covid? Most of them pointed at Trump when the person running the show was Fauci.
What is wrong with you? Pretty soon you'll be "that guy" in the neighborhood, screaming at the kids for daring to touch your lawn. You are exactly what's wrong with the current GOP. There is no middle ground any longer. We have folks like you and several other old curmugeons on this board who think Trump was anointed by God, or you have have folks like Bernie Sanders, who continually like to push the needle further left. Your love affair with Trump and his little band of American Taliban has pushed a lot of people to the left just because you could care less about anyone other than yourselves and all of your tin foil hat conspiracies.
 

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How about the "WHOA, what's wrong with you people? We're seeing another spike in the numbers!!! Triple mask or else you're killing my grandma" posts did you make throughout Covid? Most of them pointed at Trump when the person running the show was Fauci.
There wasn't a vaccine then. Now we have one and they're crazy safe and crazy effective and super available. No more excuses. End any and all restrictions.

Not to mention I never ever suggested more than one mask. But you do you.

I don't know why you'd be surprised, I've said that repeatedly
 
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Then why wasn't it their choice to not wear a mask this whole time?
Because until recently there was not a vaccine readily available. I didn't want those sickos getting me sick. And I was willing to wear a mask to keep from getting them sick. But thankfully Biden has gotten the vaccine distributed quickly so everyone who wants one can get one.

Now that I am vaccinated I am good to go. If they want to chance it, more power to them.
 
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Because until recently there was not a vaccine readily available. I didn't want those sickos getting me sick. And I was willing to wear a mask to keep from getting them sick. But thankfully Biden has gotten the vaccine distributed quickly so everyone who wants one can get one.

Now that I am vaccinated I am good to go. If they want to chance it, more power to them.
Wait a second, Biden gave all the credit to Trump for that. You're welcome.