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Lets get this out of the way now before the season starts

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Mike Riley no matter the record is safe this year he is not going to be fired. In fact he could have another losing season and still keep his job.

I am in favor of this no matter the results on the field - firing a nice guy coach after firing a couple of nine win a year coaches is lose - lose scenario.

However lets stop with the excuses for this staff - this is their team this year they have had two years to plug holes and get the players to buy in. Enough with the Bo left holes in the roster argument.

For the record I believe we will have a good year - I do think that his coaching decisions are fair game for discussion this year
 
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Mike Riley no matter the record is safe this year he is not going to be fired. In fact he could have another losing season and still keep his job.

I am in favor of this no matter the results on the field - firing a nice guy coach after firing a couple of nine win a year coaches is lose - lose scenario.

However lets stop with the excuses for this staff - this is their team this year they have had two years to plug holes and get the players to buy in. Enough with the Bo left holes in the roster argument.

For the record I believe we will have a good year - I do think that his coaching decisions are fair game for discussion this year

Well you kinda neutered your own argument. If you declare that he's safe no matter the record basically, complaining about coaching decisions basically becomes belly aching for griping sake because you've already stated up front there is no real consequence no matter the W-L.

Which is probably not what you intended. You wanted to not let other folks let Riley off the hook, but that's basically your home base this season.
 
Well you kinda neutered your own argument. If you declare that he's safe no matter the record basically, complaining about coaching decisions basically becomes belly aching for griping sake because you've already stated up front there is no real consequence no matter the W-L.

Which is probably not what you intended. You wanted to not let other folks let Riley off the hook, but that's basically your home base this season.
No I just believe it is fair to critic how you think coaches or coaching decisions are without bring up the other garbage
 
Let me go further out on a limb. This year WILL be an improvement over last year. Outside of major injury problems, if the team somehow goes in the opposite direction, either assistant coaches need to be let go, or the head man does.

But my prediction is that there is no way (outside of major injuries) that the team performs worse than last year.

But I imagine many Texas fans felt the same way after year one with Charlie Strong and they went from 6-7 in 2014 to 5-7 in 2015. Gulp.
 
Mike Riley no matter the record is safe this year he is not going to be fired. In fact he could have another losing season and still keep his job.

I am in favor of this no matter the results on the field - firing a nice guy coach after firing a couple of nine win a year coaches is lose - lose scenario.

However lets stop with the excuses for this staff - this is their team this year they have had two years to plug holes and get the players to buy in. Enough with the Bo left holes in the roster argument.

For the record I believe we will have a good year - I do think that his coaching decisions are fair game for discussion this year


no ... I am not going to hold this staff accountable for the absolute crap we have for upperclassmen along either the offensive or defensive lines ... absolutely unforgivable what they inherited - a complete joke
 
no ... I am not going to hold this staff accountable for the absolute crap we have for upperclassmen along either the offensive or defensive lines ... absolutely unforgivable what they inherited - a complete joke
As Usual you make good points. Whats really amazing, is how close they came to have a very good record with all the poison and messes Bo left and tried to seed. Good lord ; they beat ranked teams or high attaining to end off the season - Iowa was basically all on TA; yes the D ended up letting down; but besides any issues TA got them behind the momentum 8-ball.We have good coaches and they will be dealt with as necessary; look at how the D is now coached for example.
A lot of great posters here; many very qualified but get challenged by those who need only their opinion. Its a tough game; we could get on a winning streak, last year the coaches had to deal with misfortune to go with the rest. Opinions are good; but your not playing your x-box or whatever it is that gets played...
 
By all accounts our youth is very good.

I'm willing to be extremely flexible with Riley until the youth movement grows up.


I believe it's only fair since I said we should wait to can Bo until we saw what he could do with TA
 
I am in favor of this no matter the results on the field - firing a nice guy coach after firing a couple of nine win a year coaches is lose - lose scenario.

So you'd be in favor of keeping Riley if we went 3-9 this year?

I highly doubt that will happen, and the reality is that Riley will be here as long as Eichorst is AD......but if this team manages to do even worse than last year, then it will be very hard to believe this coaching staff is capable of winning championships. With this year's schedule, any decent coaching staff should be able to win 8-9 games at minimum.
 
However lets stop with the excuses for this staff - this is their team this year they have had two years to plug holes and get the players to buy in. Enough with the Bo left holes in the roster argument.
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So he's suppose to plug those holes with sophomores, redshirt freshmen and true freshmen??? It's not an excuse that Bo and his clown staff left HUGE holes in the roster at several spots, that's a f'n fact.
 
no ... I am not going to hold this staff accountable for the absolute crap we have for upperclassmen along either the offensive or defensive lines ... absolutely unforgivable what they inherited - a complete joke
Absolutely, Pelini mismanaged the roster so poorly we were lucky to be 5-7 last year. In fact, Mike is lucky he even won 5 games, given the intensity of the "Pelini Virus" which infected everything it came into contact with. If my math is correct, we have until 2020 until Coach Riley is accountable for any "on field" results. As seasons go by, and Pelini players drop off the roster, we should be able to improve a couple games each year. On that trend, we should be back in the National spotlight and possibly compete for a NC in Mikes 4th season here. A coaching job that even Tom would be proud of.

Until then, Thank God we have a "nice guy" who plays nice with fans & media and gives good and wholesome Press Conferences that even my young son can watch without the mute button. What a contrast from that lunatic we just ran out of town. It would have been nice, in Mikes first season, to have improved upon the 9 win barrier that Pelini created, at least we have a Head Coach who represents the University well, Win or Lose.

It doesn't matter than Mike's first class wasn't as highly rated as BO's average Rivals ranking was, during his tenure. We have coaches now that will be able to coach-em-up, better than BO's staff ever could. Heck, look at this years recruiting. Was BO ever on the caliber of recruit Mike is bringing in? It wouldn't surprise me if we win a Recruiting title before becoming relevant on the field.

And penalties. Don't even get me started. Pelini's teams were so mentally unprepared it was nearly unwatchable sometimes.

Yep. Win or lose, I'm gonna watch my Huskers with pride, knowing we have a Head Coach we can all be proud of.
 
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Absolutely, Pelini mismanaged the roster so poorly we were lucky to be 5-7 last year. In fact, Mike is lucky he even won 5 games, given the intensity of the "Pelini Virus" which infected everything it came into contact with. If my math is correct, we have until 2020 until Coach Riley is accountable for any "on field" results. As seasons go by, and Pelini players drop off the roster, we should be able to improve a couple games each year. On that trend, we should be back in the National spotlight and possibly compete for a NC in Mikes 4th season here. A coaching job that even Tom would be proud of.

Until then, Thank God we have a "nice guy" who plays nice with fans & media and gives good and wholesome Press Conferences that even my young son can watch without the mute button. What a contrast from that lunatic we just ran out of town. It would have been nice, in Mikes first season, to have improved upon the 9 win barrier that Pelini created, at least we have a Head Coach who represents the University well, Win or Lose.

It doesn't matter than Mike's first class wasn't as highly rated as BO's average Rivals ranking was, during his tenure. We have coaches now that will be able to coach-em-up, better than BO's staff ever could. Heck, look at this years recruiting. Was BO ever on the caliber of recruit Mike is bringing in? It wouldn't surprise me if we win a Recruiting title before becoming relevant on the field.

And penalties. Don't even get me started. Pelini's teams were so mentally unprepared it was nearly unwatchable sometimes.

Yep. Win or lose, I'm gonna watch my Huskers with pride, knowing we have a Head Coach we can all be proud of.


not sure that there isn't a bit of sarcasm in there ... to be clear I think we should have won more games than we did last year and there is room for growth in the coaching staff as well ... 6-7 wasn't the masterful coaching job that some seem to portray ... however I do think there are numerous holes that are going to take a while to get solidified in the coming years .. 8-4 would be a good (not great) season this year

I am somewhat encouraged by the last 2 games of the season - the Iowa game which TA almost single handedly lost and the UCLA game

I just don't see how we are a 10+ win team this year with all the ? marks along both lines - I hope I am pleasantly surprised
 
Mike Riley no matter the record is safe this year he is not going to be fired. In fact he could have another losing season and still keep his job.

I am in favor of this no matter the results on the field - firing a nice guy coach after firing a couple of nine win a year coaches is lose - lose scenario.

However lets stop with the excuses for this staff - this is their team this year they have had two years to plug holes and get the players to buy in. Enough with the Bo left holes in the roster argument.

For the record I believe we will have a good year - I do think that his coaching decisions are fair game for discussion this year
IMO Riley is plenty safe. But, if there is a repeat of last year Green would be hard pressed to keep Eichorst.

There is no question in my mind Perlman wanted to stop the calls from Delany at any cost.
 
So he's suppose to plug those holes with sophomores, redshirt freshmen and true freshmen??? It's not an excuse that Bo and his clown staff left HUGE holes in the roster at several spots, that's a f'n fact.
Agree. It's going to take a few recruiting cycles to fill all the holes left by the previous staff. We won't really know what we have with Riley and Co until they have their own players.
We need more depth on both lines and a qb suited for their style of offense. I'd be happy with 8-4 or better as long as we are competitive in every game and recruiting continues to improve. If TA can minimize mistakes I think we can win the division and hopefully be competitive in the CCG.
 
Absolutely, Pelini mismanaged the roster so poorly we were lucky to be 5-7 last year. In fact, Mike is lucky he even won 5 games, given the intensity of the "Pelini Virus" which infected everything it came into contact with. If my math is correct, we have until 2020 until Coach Riley is accountable for any "on field" results. As seasons go by, and Pelini players drop off the roster, we should be able to improve a couple games each year. On that trend, we should be back in the National spotlight and possibly compete for a NC in Mikes 4th season here. A coaching job that even Tom would be proud of.

Until then, Thank God we have a "nice guy" who plays nice with fans & media and gives good and wholesome Press Conferences that even my young son can watch without the mute button. What a contrast from that lunatic we just ran out of town. It would have been nice, in Mikes first season, to have improved upon the 9 win barrier that Pelini created, at least we have a Head Coach who represents the University well, Win or Lose.

It doesn't matter than Mike's first class wasn't as highly rated as BO's average Rivals ranking was, during his tenure. We have coaches now that will be able to coach-em-up, better than BO's staff ever could. Heck, look at this years recruiting. Was BO ever on the caliber of recruit Mike is bringing in? It wouldn't surprise me if we win a Recruiting title before becoming relevant on the field.

And penalties. Don't even get me started. Pelini's teams were so mentally unprepared it was nearly unwatchable sometimes.

Yep. Win or lose, I'm gonna watch my Huskers with pride, knowing we have a Head Coach we can all be proud of.

I'm not sure if you're serious, as I thought you have been panning the coach. Personally, I feel that 9+ is very reasonable for this year given the schedule. It's too bad that we lost those DTs, but maybe it's for the best considering we're one step closer to it being MR's guys. Nothing against those holdovers that have bought in to his way of doing things. Regardless of last year's record, we were competitive in most every game. Even with Riley's professional demeanor I still want wins. It's just more palatable as we climb our way back to respectability.
 
Another losing season and SE and MR are gone. This schedule is mediocre at best. Finishing below .500 means they aren't competent

Mediocre?

We play Wisconsin, Ohio State, Northwestern and Iowa all on the road. At Indiana isn't even a gimme. Oregon and Minnesota are also above mediocre.
 
I'm not as concerned about record this year as I am about cutting out the stupid stuff. Lining up, playing well and getting beat by a better team is acceptable. Lining up, stupid game plans, undisciplined play and losing to teams like Purdue and Miami is unacceptable.
 
Mediocre?

We play Wisconsin, Ohio State, Northwestern and Iowa all on the road. At Indiana isn't even a gimme. Oregon and Minnesota are also above mediocre.
How many of those teams will be ranked when they play them?....maybe 2 or 3?.....sounds pretty mediocre to me. Definitely not some kind of schedule that will get much respect nationally.

You are saying a losing season would be acceptable? Look up the schedule rankings for FBS...gotta go a little bit before you see NU.

Another losing season and there will be a new AD and a new coach.
 
Mediocre?

We play Wisconsin, Ohio State, Northwestern and Iowa all on the road. At Indiana isn't even a gimme. Oregon and Minnesota are also above mediocre.


We have better talent than all of those teams except tOSU.

And this thread is a mute point, we aren't going to have a losing or a bad season.
 
How many of those teams will be ranked when they play them?....maybe 2 or 3?.....sounds pretty mediocre to me. Definitely not some kind of schedule that will get much respect nationally.

You are saying a losing season would be acceptable? Look up the schedule rankings for FBS...gotta go a little bit before you see NU.

Another losing season and there will be a new AD and a new coach.
I have to agree with this. Another losing season and, at the very least, there will be HUGE pressure on Riley, rightly or wrongly.
I know Pelini was not a great recruiter, but he wasn't awful either. His biggest weakness was coordinating recruiting with roster management. He did leave us with big gaps at certain positions. But even with all that considered, I just don't buy the argument that Pelini left us with 6-7 talent. So ok, it was a transition year and we had some bad luck and there was still the Pelini poison on the team. But Pelini did leave Riley with enough talent that in year 2 we should be be ok with another losing season.
I know that this is a controversial thing to say, and I respect those of opposing views. But I think Riley needs to win this year. Just my opinion.
 
We have better talent than all of those teams except tOSU.

And this thread is a mute point, we aren't going to have a losing or a bad season.
Fact or perception?

I am fairly confident in saying our overall talent is not better than Oregon and Wisconsin
 
How many of those teams will be ranked when they play them?....maybe 2 or 3?.....sounds pretty mediocre to me. Definitely not some kind of schedule that will get much respect nationally.

You are saying a losing season would be acceptable? Look up the schedule rankings for FBS...gotta go a little bit before you see NU.

Another losing season and there will be a new AD and a new coach.

Our defense and offensive line are below average Division 1 talent. It is going to take probably four years to see major improvement when his kids hold most of the starting spots. Of course, below .500 would be unacceptable.
 
Fact or perception?

I am fairly confident in saying our overall talent is not better than Oregon and Wisconsin

Our defense is severely under talented, especially at the playmaking spots of Linebacker, defensive end and DBs for that matter. Our QB is a turnover machine. Our offensive line is below average and now undermanned, with the injury. Our running backs seem to be extremely talented, but have not shown it fully yet....so that is a question mark. We have a true freshman punter. Our wide receivers are only area where we can say that we are very good/above average.

What am I seeing wrong?
 
Our defense is severely under talented, especially at the playmaking spots of Linebacker, defensive end and DBs for that matter. Our QB is a turnover machine. Our offensive line is below average and now undermanned, with the injury. Our running backs seem to be extremely talented, but have not shown it fully yet....so that is a question mark. We have a true freshman punter. Our wide receivers are only area where we can say that we are very good/above average.

What am I seeing wrong?

LBs are good...maybe very good. OL should be good also.

QB is gut-rot though, which trumps everything.
 
LBs are good...maybe very good. OL should be good also.

QB is gut-rot though, which trumps everything.

Zaire has been our only playmaking LB in years....and he was somewhat inconsistent and hurt a lot. Newby makes a play every now and then. Hopefully, his weight loss will make him more consistent. Young looked good to start the year, but took steps backwards. Rose has been hurt a ton and was never really fast, but he can be solid....and the other starter simply is not a division one starting LB. Chris Weber looked like our best LB at times last season, and that is not necessarily a good thing.
 
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Zaire has been our only playmaking LB in years....and he was somewhat inconsistent and hurt a lot. Newby makes a play every now and then. Hopefully, his weight loss will make him more consistent. Young looked good to start the year, but took steps backwards. Rose has been hurt a ton and was never really fast, but he can be solid....and the other starter simply is not a division one starting LB. Chris Weber looked like our best LB at times last season, and that is not necessarily a good thing.
You do not think Lavonte David was a playmaking LB??
 
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