Jordan Paup

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

I just don't get recruiting anymore, here is a very strong athletic quick kid 6-4 240 legit 4.5 40 yard dash, who if played OLB in Florida would get as many scholly offers as he could possibly handle.

Playing NT and DE for class C Nebraska football goes completely unnoticed, by even schools like Iowa St and Kansas St. I must be totally losing it now.

 

[headcard]

Getting a kid like this to pass up a full ride to walk on at Nebraska is huge. Thats how you build talent and depth with limited scholarships.

 

[aNUstart]

From reading the story about him, it appears paying to attend UNL will be a challenge for his family (as it is for many). So yes, he must really love the Huskers and want to compete at the highest level. With his measurables he appears to be young man who could, and hopefully will, earn a scholarship quickly.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

There are some tools there for sure. Gonna need lots of coaching(like almost everyone), but a very good get.

 

[TruHusker]

I just don't get recruiting anymore, here is a very strong athletic quick kid 6-4 240 legit 4.5 40 yard dash, who if played OLB in Florida would get as many scholly offers as he could possibly handle.

Playing NT and DE for class C Nebraska football goes completely unnoticed, by even schools like Iowa St and Kansas St. I must be totally losing it now.

I know nothing about the kid. However, coaches know talent when they see it and film on these kids is all over the place. What you are saying is the coaches don't know what they are looking at with this kid and location makes all the difference. Perhaps you need to start your own recruiting and evaluation service to help these coaches out.

The kid will get every chance to prove himself at Nebraska.

 

[dockentwo]

From reading the story about him, it appears paying to attend UNL will be a challenge for his family (as it is for many). So yes, he must really love the Huskers and want to compete at the highest level. With his measurables he appears to be young man who could, and hopefully will, earn a scholarship quickly.

I bring up this recollection from time to time. Coach T O said about a third of the traveling squad ( around 65 players ) on the championship teams started as walk-ons. I think this is encouraging and it seems we are putting an outstanding walk-on class together. GBR

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I know nothing about the kid. However, coaches know talent when they see it and film on these kids is all over the place. What you are saying is the coaches don't know what they are looking at with this kid and location makes all the difference. Perhaps you need to start your own recruiting and evaluation service to help these coaches out.

The kid will get every chance to prove himself at Nebraska.

This. There is no way this kid flew under Nebraska's radar. That is obvious. And even we did not offer a scholarship. That must mean something.

 

[TruHusker]

As I think about all of this recruiting stuff, consider this. If overall recruiting improves to the level many expect with classes in the teens and top ten then that puts additional pressure on the walk on program. There will always be those opportunities for the occasional person to make a difference and get the pub for being a walk on. But as talent levels increase this ops should get less. At least that is what would make logical sense. If your dream is to play at Nebraska and that is what you want above anything else then take the chance.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

There are some tools there for sure. Gonna need lots of coaching(like almost everyone), but a very good get.

Good point on needing coaching, that's a big difference between big high school programs in the south and

This. There is no way this kid flew under Nebraska's radar. That is obvious. And even we did not offer a scholarship. That must mean something.

That is why I am scratching my head, not even Craig Bohl, offered this kid. There aren't many strong quick explosive 6'4 240 4.55 legit 40 coming out of high school. Maybe he has a lot to learn about technique and schemes ect. I admit the coaches know more than me re: recruiting.

 

[aNUstart]

This. There is no way this kid flew under Nebraska's radar. That is obvious. And even we did not offer a scholarship. That must mean something.

Drew Ott and Nathan Bazata say "Hello". And Jano wasn't offered by NU out of high school.

Yes, different staff, but all coaches have misses.

 

[cornhead1]

Dominating Class C is a long way from even Class A in Nebraska let alone big time HS football like Florida, Texas, Ohio, etc. I'm rooting for him! Work hard and show everybody they were wrong

 

[inWV]

As I think about all of this recruiting stuff, consider this. If overall recruiting improves to the level many expect with classes in the teens and top ten then that puts additional pressure on the walk on program. There will always be those opportunities for the occasional person to make a difference and get the pub for being a walk on. But as talent levels increase this ops should get less. At least that is what would make logical sense. If your dream is to play at Nebraska and that is what you want above anything else then take the chance.

Even if we up our game, recruiting to NU will be a challenge. Kids from the sticks have to be under-evaluated in general. I am very much pro as many blue chip guys as we can get. But we have an advantage in that our "brand" is more like a religion with in-state kids. We should be courting as many of them as we can to join the team. The difference between a kid with 3 or 4 stars and a kid from Broken Bow who is unknown to the major recruiting services might be zero after a couple of years in the program. The history of our walk ons is proof of that, even the more recent history after the development of the modern services. Guys like Stew Bradley and Matt O'Hanlon.
Didn't a Clemson walk on catch the winning TD pass in the title game. I was the interview with Dabo on Showtime. He sees the value of both blue chip athletes and walk on players.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Drew Ott and Nathan Bazata say "Hello". And Jano wasn't offered by NU out of high school.

Yes, different staff, but all coaches have misses.

Notice how those guys, overlooked by NU, still got scholie offers from D1 schools? Paup got nothing in the way of D1 offers. Not even Wyoming offered.
There is probably a reason for that.
But maybe not. Maybe everyone just missed on this guy. But why then, once we did take notice, did we still not offer a scholie? Is Parella and the rest of our staff that incompetent? Or maybe they know that the four guys we got for our defensive line are all better than this kid athletically, and they did not want to offer five schoolies for the line.

 

[Cloud@Heart]

Notice how those guys, overlooked by NU, still got scholie offers from D1 schools? Paup got nothing in the way of D1 offers. Not even Wyoming offered.
There is probably a reason for that.
But maybe not. Maybe everyone just missed on this guy. But why then, once we did take notice, did we still not offer a scholie? Is Parella and the rest of our staff that incompetent? Or maybe they know that the four guys we got for our defensive line are all better than this kid athletically, and they did not want to offer five schoolies for the line.

With only 20-25 scholarships a year available, it has got to be tough to decide who gets offered and who doesn't. Wyoming, NDSU, SDSt, Iowa State, Kansas St, OHIO are all regional schools that get some of our "scraps" and occasionally we steal their cream. I don't think that will change. Should we have offered Brett Kittrel or Arnold a "grey shirt" like was offered to Jano? We wont know for a couple of years. Bazata and Ott were similar to Kittrel and we now know we should have, but hind sight is 20/20. It's stressful, that is for sure...... But that is why they are getting paid millions of dollars.

Bottom line is that this staff is showing the effort and tenacity to revive the program both on and off the field. Will it happen? Nothing is guaranteed! GBR!

 

[coach-ed]

Hope the kid comes in and works his tail off and proves himself. Maybe we could hook him up with one of those County Scholarships.........

 

[charger78]

Notice how those guys, overlooked by NU, still got scholie offers from D1 schools? Paup got nothing in the way of D1 offers. Not even Wyoming offered.
There is probably a reason for that.
But maybe not. Maybe everyone just missed on this guy. But why then, once we did take notice, did we still not offer a scholie? Is Parella and the rest of our staff that incompetent? Or maybe they know that the four guys we got for our defensive line are all better than this kid athletically, and they did not want to offer five schoolies for the line.

Agree with almost everything everybody is saying. However, what people usually fail to realize is kids like Paup who play at a smaller class school is they are usually playing out of position. Paup is obviously not a d-tackle, but the need is there for the smaller school. If Paup was able to show his abilities at his natural position weakside d-end, outside linebacker he'd have more offers. Yes he has the measurables, but schools aren't going to waste time on a small school Nebraska that they aren't able to watch film at his natural position. That's where having him in our backyard plays a pivotal role in landing these players (or striking out, Ott) they get to keep a closer eye on them. Other (outside) schools won't waste time, budget and what not on a small town Nebraska kid that plays out of position. One could argue against me, about Guy Thomas (same type of player)? He played out of position and it hurt his numbers...however, he's at BTW in Florida, has the pedigree (look at his brother) to be an elite athlete/recruit. Location, location, location. This Paup kid is the real deal and it wouldn’t surprise me to see him push Guy for a big role in the next year or 2.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

So go back in time and it's 2012 and you don't have hindsight. Nebraska has a class of 17ish players. Room for 1 DE and your choice is Avery Moss or Drew Ott. Now go forward 1 year and again, no hindsight, you have a couple of DT spots and you have to choose between Bazata and Collins and Maurice.

Hindsight is always the best. We can make decisions 4 years after they needed to be made and always be right. Ha ha ha

 

[NYC-Husker]

I just don't get recruiting anymore, here is a very strong athletic quick kid 6-4 240 legit 4.5 40 yard dash, who if played OLB in Florida would get as many scholly offers as he could possibly handle.

Playing NT and DE for class C Nebraska football goes completely unnoticed, by even schools like Iowa St and Kansas St. I must be totally losing it now.

Are you sure he has legit 4.5 speed? It just seems odd if he does that speed at that size that Wyoming or someone like that didn't offer. If it is electronically timed at that speed (and to be frank, I seriously doubt he's that fast), then there must be something else coaches didn't like about his film or something. If it's hand-timed 4.5 speed, that may translate to more like 4.7 or 4.8 speed, that could be the reason.

 

[nebcountry]

Are you sure he has legit 4.5 speed? It just seems odd if he does that speed at that size that Wyoming or someone like that didn't offer. If it is electronically timed at that speed (and to be frank, I seriously doubt he's that fast), then there must be something else coaches didn't like about his film or something. If it's hand-timed 4.5 speed, that may translate to more like 4.7 or 4.8 speed, that could be the reason.

Seems like I remember reading that Paup ran somewhere around a 4.7-4.8 at the friday night lights camp. I don't know if the FNL 40's are electronic or hand-held times though.

 

[jflores]

The eternal in-state walkon superstar thing.

I sort of liked Vrzal's take the other day. Talking about Hixson I believe. All kinds of superlatives about his motor, work effort, loves the game, program, all that. Ended with, unlikely to ever see the field, but nice to have around.

Nebraska is always going to have a ton of guys that appear under rated, and are actually over rated at the D1 level. Nebraska will have a select few guys that are diamonds in the rough. Hard to know in advance.

 

[jflores]

I think the consensus on Paup is that his 40 time is not true to life. If he was legit 4.5 at his size, he'd have plenty of big time programs throwing money at him.

 

[big red22]

Dominating Class C is a long way from even Class A in Nebraska let alone big time HS football like Florida, Texas, Ohio, etc. I'm rooting for him! Work hard and show everybody they were wrong

The only thing you can do is play in the class you are in? Just because Class A is better talent overall does not mean the best player isn't from a Class C or D school.

The only way to even compare kids is if the test well head to head at a combine, and their testing numbers.

Jordan Paup may be from Class C, but he is dominating it! That is all you can do if you out class the competition. Same for any kid from a small town, all you can do is dominate and hope you get a chance at the next level. That is exactly what he is getting and only time will tell if he is as good as or better than all of these Florida, Ohio, Texas, California kids.

There is no proof that dominating Class C is any less then being great at another league or state. If Tyjon Lindsey played Class C, and all he did was dominate he would probably be a 2 or 3*. Same goes for any player that can play. So you saying it is a "Long way" from even Class A is not fact

 

[cornhead1]

I would agree with you on the possibility of a Class C player being the best player in the state, but the experts don't agree with that in this instance because NO offers were made and I doubt everyone missed on him.
Like I said, I wish him well and hope he becomes a big time player at Nebraska

 

[redfanusa]

If the 4.5 40 yard dash time was "legit" at 6-4 240, he wouldn't have to worry about college scholarship offers, because the NFL would be knocking down his door. Those are Terrell Owens numbers. That's why 40 times are the least reliable number in the history of sports.

http://www.espn.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/70870/terrell-owens-40-yard-time-a-shocker

 

[nephy]

Dominating Class C is a long way from even Class A in Nebraska let alone big time HS football like Florida, Texas, Ohio, etc. I'm rooting for him! Work hard and show everybody they were wrong

Dean Steinkhuler played 8 man football and ended up just fine .... just depends on the individual... (and the coaching of course )