Warren acts on the authority of university presidents on this issue. I thought that was understood..... and yes, university presidents have the right to take the decision whether or not to play away from the players.
It is really beginning to sink-in
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I was downtown the other day. Just doesn't feel right. Those poor businesses will lose so much money. Not right.
Warren has handled this poorly, and deserves all the backlash he receives along with presidents. He’s hiding the presidents votes, so he gets to receive the backlash. Maybe he will start to crack and will reveal the votes... I doubt it though.
I work for a commercial real estate company, and from some Rumblings I’ve heard - we ain’t seen nothin yet. A lot of businesses still aren’t paying rent.
there are many, many reports that he's acted on his own accord with regards to leading this decision.
that's very different from acting on their authority, if true.
I make considerably more than $27k/year. The athletes also want to stay healthy. This is a pandemic for which nobody knows if we ever find a cure or vaccine.
He may have exerted influence, he may have bamboozled them, whatever. Bottom line: he doesn't have a vote on the matter nor does he have the final say - that rests with the university presidents.
Sidenote: early reports indicated that the recommendations presented by the B10's Covid-19 medical task force had quite a bit of influence. My guess is that the legal opinions were strongly considered also.
Warren did not represent AD voices as is his job in the meetings. They were not invited.
Lol at people still trying to act like covid is some sort of ultra deadly pandemic.
Lol at people still trying to act like covid is some sort of ultra deadly pandemic.
plenty of reports that nobody had a 'vote', including citation in the current players' lawsuit.
I highly doubt Warren had the most influence on the decision, but his active participation in having *ANY* influence is directly in opposition to his role as mouthpiece for presidents.
I don't understand why anyone would bend over backwards to ignore these reports and carry water for this man and his agenda.
EDIT: from @cubsker's article posted above:
What happened going into the final meeting with Warren and the presidents is 4-5 presidents were in favor of playing football this year, 4-5 were against the idea of playing, and the rest were somewhere in the middle. Jeff Snook was the first to report this information and it jibes with what I’ve been told since. Warren was able to get the presidents who were on the fence on his side. An official vote was never taken, which is an amazing detail in its own right and another illustration of how terribly mismanaged this situation was by Warren, but suddenly there was a slight majority of Big Ten presidents who were against playing football this fall. Warren was the one who directed the ship right into the iceberg.
doesn't exactly sound like acting on the presidents' authority, with no say of his own, to me.
Off the top of my head:
1) Probably every person out of work / losing their business due to this decision.
2) Probably every athlete affected by this decision.
3) Lost and lots of fans.
“If you aren’t sure whether you want the big 10 to at least attempt a season or not, you ain’t a husker fan”
I'm not defending Warren - his public communications have been seriously lacking. I'm just not willing to assign primary blame for the b10's decision to postpone the season upon his back.
despite reports of his active involvement?
fair enough. plenty of blame to go around to university presidents, as well. I won't argue there.
let's not forget this little tidbit:
the medical report that the Big Ten cited as its main reason for calling off the season (that coronavirus can cause the heart condition myocarditis, or make it exponentially worse) has since been retracted.
the medical report that the Big Ten cited as its main reason for calling off the season (that coronavirus can cause the heart condition myocarditis, or make it exponentially worse) has since been retracted.
I still just don't get why he was looking for reasons not to play instead for reasons to continue.
Warren did not represent AD voices as is his job in the meetings. They were not invited.
Lol at people still trying to act like covid is some sort of ultra deadly pandemic.
They almost made it to Nobember before the wheels fell off.
Left up to the players and coaches, who almost certainly have no knowledge of pandemics. That makes sense.
If it were up to players and coaches, they would fill the stadiums with fans too, which would be as moronic as it gets.
Fantastic. Another braintrust comparing Covid-19 to the seasonal flu. This is exhibit A why people without clinical knowledge shouldn't be making decisions on college sports.
Left up to the players and coaches, who almost certainly have no knowledge of pandemics. That makes sense.
Players are more likely to die from a lightning strike than Covid.
Coaches? A bit worse. A normal every year flu season
We'll sit on the sidelines cuz smart people like yourself tell us so, while statistics scream the other way.
Stop voting for Democrats.
The conservative Democrat party is long gone. It is now far far left liberal nut jobs who hate America. If it's not right, it's wrong. 4 more years!!
Left up to the players and coaches, who almost certainly have no knowledge of pandemics. That makes sense.
Will you be back here to eat crow if ACC, Big 12 and SEC have safe and successful seasons?
Awesome. A rocket scientist unable to comprehend what's being compared offering criticism of others.
Once again you're thinking with your heart and not your head. Ever considered thinking outside of football players? Good Lord.
I've said if they are dumb enough to bring students back to campuses, then football players should be able to play. They pose much less risk than an entire campus of students.
But we also know why colleges brought students back. So they could get that tuition check in the bank before they cancelled all on-campus classes in October.
Football would be a risk, but by comparison, bringing students back to campus and allowing fans in games in large numbers would shut down the economy again. And when campuses close down again, you'll understand why.
Yes, you should clearly be sitting on the sidelines during this conversation.
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Unfortunately the conservative Democrats are to slow to realize that their party has been hijacked. They will willingly follow along to slaughter, when they do realized they have been used and fooled it will be to late.
Left up to the players and coaches, who almost certainly have no knowledge of pandemics. That makes sense.
Sing me up to be the first moron in line.
Stick to peddling your drugs. Those of us WITH clinical knowledge know that COVID statistically for a college aged kid is very similar to the flu in it's risks. Obviously we have a vaccine for the flu which offers some protection for those who choose to take it. I would guess that far less than 50% of college students get a flu vaccination. Statistics for that exact age group are difficult to find. I did see one estimate that the CFR for young adults from influenza is estimated at roughly .6%(seems really high). IF that is accurate, that is MUCH higher than the CFR for young adults from COVID.
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Don’t waste your time. He’s a truth over facts kinda guy.
Nebraska
Coronavirus Cases:
32,727
Deaths:
386
Recovered:
24,689
76% of the 386 deaths were over 65 years old
Have you even begun to consider the difference between the two viruses? Apparently not, because if you did you would understand that we not only have a yearly vaccine for the flu, but we all have previous exposure to the flu throughout our lives. We also have 5 different antivirals approved for the flu that are much more effective than remdesivir is for Covid-19.
We have nothing other than a medication indicated for Ebola that reduces hospital stay by 4 days, and other meds being used off label for Covid-19 Other than that we have masks, social distancing, and washing our hands.
This BS of comparing the mortality rates of Covid-19 and the seasonal flu needs to stop. Covid is MUCH more dangerous right now than the flu.
Yeah, he makes like $32K/yr with the extra $600 stimulus package.
For me COVID is much more dangerous than influenza. For college aged kids the statistics do not support your statement. After all, we are talking about Husker football right? Interestingly, thousands of high schools and colleges who don't depend on football for income are still going back to in person classes. Widespread testing of students as they've arrived on campus has revealed......widespread COVID infections. Gee imagine that.
Commercial Real Estate is going to be the biggest loser in all of this.
Look at downtown New York and Manhattan. They'll never recover.
