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Very interesting that the camera is pointed directly at the place they bombed. Why would they have a cameraman point their camera directly at the place that was “bombed” - were they tipped off at the exact time and place that Israel would bomb that particular building? I didn’t see a missile anywhere, so how was it bombed? I’m seeing some funny business going on there, and the Palestinians are masters of manipulating the media.
 

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Very interesting that the camera is pointed directly at the place they bombed. Why would they have a cameraman point their camera directly at the place that was “bombed” - were they tipped off at the exact time and place that Israel would bomb that particular building? I didn’t see a missile anywhere, so how was it bombed? I’m seeing some funny business going on there, and the Palestinians are masters of manipulating the media.
Obviously they were warned you imbecile.


 

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I’m an imbicile because I wake up to your propaganda and you only post half a story? If they were warned to get the people out of the building, how is this a war crime?
Sorry figured you had common sense. It was similar to the story yesterday where Israel leveled another building and gave warning - which led to tons of video coverage. Sounds like you’re cool with military targeting media outlets now.
 
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Sorry figured you had common sense. It was similar to the story yesterday where Israel leveled another building and gave warning - which led to tons of video coverage. Sounds like you’re cool with military targeting media outlets now.
Right… cause I’m sure Hamas wasn’t using that building
 

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Sorry figured you had common sense. It was similar to the story yesterday where Israel leveled another building and gave warning - which led to tons of video coverage. Sounds like you’re cool with military targeting media outlets now.
I know that terrorists hide in buildings that are “off limits”. I don’t know all the info, but I know that Arabs know to fire from a Mosque so that they are protected by their enemies’ rules of engagement. Having a HQ in the basement of a news organization is a perfect location.

 

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Right… cause I’m sure Hamas wasn’t using that building
Funny how your right wing propaganda bubble has brain washed you to instinctively conclude that with zero evidence presented.

Even if that were true, still think the best approach is to destroy a huge building where tons of innocent civilians live/work including Associated Press?
 
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Funny how your right wing propaganda bubble has brain washed you to instinctively conclude that with zero evidence presented.

Even if that were true, still think the best approach is to destroy a huge building where tons of innocent civilians live/work including Associated Press?
The blame lies with the side that tries to use civilians as shields, and Hamas has been doing it forever.
 

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The blame lies with the side that tries to use civilians as shields, and Hamas has been doing it forever.
Even if Hamas was using the building the problem still isn’t solved, since the building was evacuated. Just created a new problem with families now homeless thus creating more opposition forces.

At least follow the US methodology of sending in Special Forces to confirm the kill and/or sit on the building with covert ops and when they leave use a drone strike.
 

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Funny how your right wing propaganda bubble has brain washed you to instinctively conclude that with zero evidence presented.

Even if that were true, still think the best approach is to destroy a huge building where tons of innocent civilians live/work including Associated Press?
It’s interesting that you didn’t even search out to hear the opposing view. I posted an article that says exactly that - Israel took down the building because Hamas was using it for military and intel operations.


Don’t accuse others of partisanship when you did the exact same thing in the exact same breath.
 

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Even if Hamas was using the building the problem still isn’t solved, since the building was evacuated. Just created a new problem with families now homeless thus creating more opposition forces.

At least follow the US methodology of sending in Special Forces to confirm the kill and/or sit on the building with covert ops and when they leave use a drone strike.
They weren’t targeting a person, they were targeting the operation. They gave them warning, and didn’t give them enough time to back up some trucks to remove the munitions and intel before they took down the building.
 

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They weren’t targeting a person, they were targeting the operation. They gave them warning, and didn’t give them enough time to back up some trucks to remove the munitions and intel before they took down the building.
Oh well then, mission accomplished. Problem solved. Definitely can’t set up shop next door now.
 

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It’s interesting that you didn’t even search out to hear the opposing view. I posted an article that says exactly that - Israel took down the building because Hamas was using it for military and intel operations.


Don’t accuse others of partisanship when you did the exact same thing in the exact same breath.
I don’t see any evidence presented other than —
“Israel said Hamas militants used the building.” Of course they wouldn’t tell us if they blew up the wrong building.

Cool, we’ll take their word for it.
Unlike you and living in black and white, I see gray and good/bad folks on both sides and don’t blindly pledge allegiance to one side.
 
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I don’t see any evidence presented other than —
“Israel said Hamas militants used the building.” Of course they wouldn’t tell if if they blew up the wrong building.

Cool, we’ll take their word for it.
Unlike you and living in black and white, I see gray and good/bad folks on both sides and don’t blindly pledge allegiance to one side.
The track record of both sides proves that Israel, while far from perfect, attempts to limit civilian casualties and collateral damage… while Hamas specifically targets Israeli citizens. If Hamas had the means they’d kill every last Jew in the region
 
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I don’t see any evidence presented other than —
“Israel said Hamas militants used the building.”

Cool, we’ll take their word for it.
Unlike you and living in black and white, I see gray and good/bad folks on both sides and don’t blindly pledge allegiance to one side.
Well, I'm sure Israel is reading your posts on here and said, "HEY EVERYBODY, @Hardlyboy didn't see our evidence. Can we email him our classified documents and images so he knows all the intel that brought us to this decision?" You don't think Israel knows the impact of taking down a building that houses civilians and the media? I'm sure they have been watching this operation for months to years, waiting for a time to take it down, but you probably know best that they decided to "blow up the AP building to stop them from reporting on their war crimes".
And no, you don't see gray because you chose one side and ran with it. There was a whole other side out there that you chose to ignore. You went searching for multiple articles, but all of them painted one picture, and you didn't even consider searching for a story from the other side.
 
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The track record of both sides proves that Israel, while far from perfect, attempts to limit civilian casualties and collateral damage… while Hamas specifically targets Israeli citizens. If Hamas had the means they’d kill every last Jew in the region
Unfortunately I go by data, and the data doesn’t back up your theory. Pretty lopsided affair.

 

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Well, I'm sure Israel is reading your posts on here and said, "HEY EVERYBODY, @Hardlyboy didn't see our evidence. Can we email him our classified documents and images so he knows all the intel that brought us to this decision?" You don't think Israel knows the impact of taking down a building that houses civilians and the media? I'm sure they have been watching this operation for months to years, waiting for a time to take it down, but you probably know best that they decided to "blow up the AP building to stop them from reporting on their war crimes".
And no, you don't see gray because you chose one side and ran with it. There was a whole other side out there that you chose to ignore. You went searching for multiple articles, but all of them painted one picture, and you didn't even consider searching for a story from the other side.
Sorry I’m not pro destroying homes of civilians and journalists.
 
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They’ve dished out 1000x the destruction because they are far superior from a military perspective… and generally have every right to use any means necessary to defend themselves from Hamas
Lmao they "expanded" from the agreed upon boundaries and used horrific methods to drive out the natives.

Literally "Free smallpox blankets" type shit.
 
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They’ve dished out 1000x the destruction because they are far superior from a military perspective… and generally have every right to use any means necessary to defend themselves from Hamas
Also they only have a superior military because we gave it to them.

And you guys wonder why they hate the USA 😂
 

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Cow farming much less time intensive then? Or are your fingers going 100 mile an hour while the cows are waiting for the love?
I usually scroll less at work now than before but yesterday it was either watch them fist and shove a "electronic anal stimulator" in bulls asses or troll.

After the first 5 I apologized to them when I loaded them in the snake and zoned out 😂
 

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Lmao they "expanded" from the agreed upon boundaries and used horrific methods to drive out the natives.

Literally "Free smallpox blankets" type shit.
Nelson, you say a lot of incoherent shit on here… would you mind providing a link so I can decipher exactly wtf you are trying to say?
 
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Cool… so are you just confirming that Israel has a far superior military?
That needs zero "confirmation" as 1/4 trillion in welfare will do that.

And the ones that think that's ok, don't want to feed/help needy Americans 😬
 

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Sorry I’m not pro destroying homes of civilians and journalists.

If the standard is being set, might as well follow the example.

If antifa and the leftests were truly organized, bow tie would be given the Jan 6 mike pence treatment.
 

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Also they only have a superior military because we gave it to them.

And you guys wonder why they hate the USA 😂
Israel is a leader in computer network defense, body scanners, bomb detection, desalination technology, and a lot more home-grown technology that wasn't given to them. They have cutting-edge technology out of necessity.
 
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Sorry figured you had common sense. It was similar to the story yesterday where Israel leveled another building and gave warning - which led to tons of video coverage. Sounds like you’re cool with military targeting media outlets now.
Damn right I would love to see Communist News Network and PMSDNC leveled with a MOAB!
 

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Nelson, you say a lot of incoherent shit on here… would you mind providing a link so I can decipher exactly wtf you are trying to say?
This explains it pretty well but it's long AF

The Genocide of the Palestinian People: An International Law and Human Rights Perspective

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While there has been recent criticism of those taking the position that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians, there is a long history of human rights scholarship and legal analysis that supports the assertion. Prominent scholars of the international law crime of genocide and human rights authorities take the position that Israel’s policies toward the Palestinian people could constitute a form of genocide. Those policies range from the 1948 mass killing and displacement of Palestinians to a half-century of military occupation and, correspondingly, the discriminatory legal regime governing Palestinians, repeated military assaults on Gaza, and official Israeli statements expressly favoring the elimination of Palestinians.
Genocide is a term that has both sociological and legal meaning. The term genocide was coined in 1944 by a Jewish Polish legal scholar, Raphael Lemkin. For Lemkin, “the term does not necessarily signify mass killings.” He explained:
"More often [genocide] refers to a coordinated plan aimed at destruction of the essential foundations of the life of national groups so that these groups wither and die like plants that have suffered a blight. The end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, of their language, their national feelings and their religion. It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity. When these means fail the machine gun can always be utilized as a last resort. Genocide is directed against a national group as an entity and the attack on individuals is only secondary to the annihilation of the national group to which they belong"
 
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Israel is a leader in computer network defense, body scanners, bomb detection, desalination technology, and a lot more home-grown technology that wasn't given to them. They have cutting-edge technology out of necessity.
No they have it because we funded it ALL
 

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Israel is a leader in computer network defense, body scanners, bomb detection, desalination technology, and a lot more home-grown technology that wasn't given to them. They have cutting-edge technology out of necessity.

Through FY2020, the United States has provided Israel with $146 billion in military, economic, and missile defense funding. Adjusted for inflation, this amount is equivalent to $236 billion in 2018 dollars, making Israel the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. assistance since World War II.
 

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No they have it because we funded it ALL
Sure. Israel has no economy and has no capability to do research on their own. They are in fact a socialist utopia with socialized medicine and top-down government controlled companies solely funded by the US. Profit is forbidden, and if there were any profits, all money would be handed over to the US as a rebate for our cash infusion. Is that about right?
 
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