Isn't this inflation swell?

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Airfare triple or quadrupled, all travel up at least 50%, meat doubled, housing up 30-50. Everything in short supply and much more costly, including cars.

The wonderful $15/hour just slid back to be equivalent to about $9/hr

Way to go Dems. You wanted to share missery now you got it, but you won't stop there until everything is in full ruins.
Question:
What Airfares are triple or quadrupled? I just bought several airline tickets and they are about the same as they were 18 months ago.

What travel is up 50%? Gas is up about 27%. What else?

Some things are in short supply, but some things are always in short supply. What particularly?

Based on current statistics from the BLS, prices are up 2.6% this year overall.

I think that Biden's policies are dangerous, but let's not get carried away!
 

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Question:
What Airfares are triple or quadrupled? I just bought several airline tickets and they are about the same as they were 18 months ago.

What travel is up 50%? Gas is up about 27%. What else?

Some things are in short supply, but some things are always in short supply. What particularly?

Based on current statistics from the BLS, prices are up 2.6% this year overall.

I think that Biden's policies are dangerous, but let's not get carried away!
biden isn t doing anything.other people are running the show. he shows up when the movie is over.
 

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Question:
What Airfares are triple or quadrupled? I just bought several airline tickets and they are about the same as they were 18 months ago.

What travel is up 50%? Gas is up about 27%. What else?

Some things are in short supply, but some things are always in short supply. What particularly?

Based on current statistics from the BLS, prices are up 2.6% this year overall.

I think that Biden's policies are dangerous, but let's not get carried away!
gas, less than 2, now 3
 

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That’s quite a distortion of recent history.

Obama whittled the deficits down? Bush increased the total debt by about 4.4 trillion. Obama increased it by 9.5 trillion.

And again, im not even certain you or anyone can prove that there is a positive correlation between corporate tax rates and government revenue.
You can't really be this stupid, can you? Were you even conscious over the past 30 years? Have you completely forgotten about the global financial crisis that began in 2008 during Bush's last year?

Since you don't seem to remember any of this recent history, here are annual budget deficits for the last 30 years:

  • 1992 - $290.3 billion budget deficit
  • 1993 - $255.1 billion budget deficit
  • 1994 - $203.2 billion budget deficit
  • 1995 - $164 billion budget deficit
  • 1996 - $107.4 billion budget deficit
  • 1997 - $21.9 billion budget deficit
  • 1998 - $69.3 billion budget surplus
  • 1999 - $125.6 billion budget surplus
  • 2000 - $236.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2001 - $128.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit
  • 2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
  • 2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
  • 2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
  • 2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
  • 2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
  • 2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
  • 2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
  • 2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
  • 2013 - $719 billion budget deficit
  • 2014 - $514 billion budget deficit
  • 2015 - $439 billion budget deficit
  • 2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
  • 2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
  • 2018 - $779 billion budget deficit
  • 2019 - $960 billion budget deficit (projected)
  • 2020 - $3.3 trillion budget deficit (projected)
You may note the following:

Budget deficits declined steadily over Clinton's term, due in large part to tax increases passed by GHWB and Clinton, some cost cutting, and economic growth, to the point there was actually a surplus at the end of his term.

Bush pushed through a tax cut at the beginning of his term, and, whattya know, we got budget deficits again.

The GFC happened 2008 and revenues plummeted. Yeah, the deficit was $1.4 trillion during Obama's first year, but he had no control over that and it declined steadily over the course of his term, and if he'd been able to pass some tax increases, they would have likely continued declining. Then Don the Con came into office, he cut taxes, and deficits exploded.

Bottom line, we need to increase taxes on the wealthy. It's obscene that they are paying nearly nothing in taxes.

Democrats are not fiscally perfect, but the trends over the past 40 years are pretty stark. Deficits go up under Republican Presidents due to tax cuts and the dreams of economic growth being sufficient to offset cuts have been a fantasy.
 
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You can't really be this stupid, can you? Were you even conscious over the past 30 years? Have you completely forgotten about the global financial crisis that began in 2008 during Bush's last year?
Since you don't seem to remember any of this recent history, here are annual budget deficits for the last 30 years:

  • 1992 - $290.3 billion budget deficit
  • 1993 - $255.1 billion budget deficit
  • 1994 - $203.2 billion budget deficit
  • 1995 - $164 billion budget deficit
  • 1996 - $107.4 billion budget deficit
  • 1997 - $21.9 billion budget deficit
  • 1998 - $69.3 billion budget surplus
  • 1999 - $125.6 billion budget surplus
  • 2000 - $236.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2001 - $128.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit
  • 2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
  • 2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
  • 2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
  • 2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
  • 2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
  • 2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
  • 2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
  • 2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
  • 2013 - $719 billion budget deficit
  • 2014 - $514 billion budget deficit
  • 2015 - $439 billion budget deficit
  • 2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
  • 2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
  • 2018 - $779 billion budget deficit
  • 2019 - $960 billion budget deficit (projected)
  • 2020 - $3.3 trillion budget deficit (projected)
You may note the following:

Budget deficits declined steadily over Clinton's term, due in large part to tax increases passed by GHWB and Clinton, some cost cutting, and economic growth, to the point there was actually a surplus at the end of his term.

Bush pushed through a tax cut at the beginning of his term, and, whattya know, we got budget deficits again.

The GFC happened 2008 and revenues plummeted. Yeah, the deficit was $1.4 trillion during Obama's first year, but he had no control over that and it declined steadily over the course of his term, and if he'd been able to pass some tax increases, they would have likely continued declining. Then Don the Con came into office, he cut taxes, and deficits exploded.

Bottom line, we need to increase taxes on the wealthy. It's obscene that they are paying nearly nothing in taxes.

Democrats are not fiscally perfect, but the trends over the past 40 years are pretty stark. Deficits go up under Republican Presidents due to tax cuts and the dreams of economic growth being sufficient to offset cuts have been a fantasy.
Jfc Steve… I’ll address the rest of this nonsense later. But for now, look at the data you just posted and ask yourself if Obama “Whittled” the deficits down (considering it tripled in his first year/ and btw, taxes did increase during his term)… you also conveniently left out Bush inheriting a tech bubble collapsing, and the economic damage of 9/11.

Next take a look at the simple math, remove political parties, and try to figure out if our deficit increase has primarily been due to increased spending or decreased revenue

Throughout the 90s, outlays increased by 42%
From 2000-2010, outlays increased by 93%

Hmmm is the deficit a revenue or spending problem??

*edit again*
FInally Steve, look at your own data and try to recall what happened to tax policy in 97 that lead to the big increase in surplus.
 
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Question:
What Airfares are triple or quadrupled? I just bought several airline tickets and they are about the same as they were 18 months ago.

What travel is up 50%? Gas is up about 27%. What else?

Some things are in short supply, but some things are always in short supply. What particularly?

Based on current statistics from the BLS, prices are up 2.6% this year overall.

I think that Biden's policies are dangerous, but let's not get carried away!
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You can't really be this stupid, can you? Were you even conscious over the past 30 years? Have you completely forgotten about the global financial crisis that began in 2008 during Bush's last year?

Since you don't seem to remember any of this recent history, here are annual budget deficits for the last 30 years:

  • 1992 - $290.3 billion budget deficit
  • 1993 - $255.1 billion budget deficit
  • 1994 - $203.2 billion budget deficit
  • 1995 - $164 billion budget deficit
  • 1996 - $107.4 billion budget deficit
  • 1997 - $21.9 billion budget deficit
  • 1998 - $69.3 billion budget surplus
  • 1999 - $125.6 billion budget surplus
  • 2000 - $236.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2001 - $128.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit
  • 2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
  • 2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
  • 2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
  • 2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
  • 2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
  • 2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
  • 2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
  • 2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
  • 2013 - $719 billion budget deficit
  • 2014 - $514 billion budget deficit
  • 2015 - $439 billion budget deficit
  • 2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
  • 2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
  • 2018 - $779 billion budget deficit
  • 2019 - $960 billion budget deficit (projected)
  • 2020 - $3.3 trillion budget deficit (projected)
You may note the following:

Budget deficits declined steadily over Clinton's term, due in large part to tax increases passed by GHWB and Clinton, some cost cutting, and economic growth, to the point there was actually a surplus at the end of his term.

Bush pushed through a tax cut at the beginning of his term, and, whattya know, we got budget deficits again.

The GFC happened 2008 and revenues plummeted. Yeah, the deficit was $1.4 trillion during Obama's first year, but he had no control over that and it declined steadily over the course of his term, and if he'd been able to pass some tax increases, they would have likely continued declining. Then Don the Con came into office, he cut taxes, and deficits exploded.

Bottom line, we need to increase taxes on the wealthy. It's obscene that they are paying nearly nothing in taxes.

Democrats are not fiscally perfect, but the trends over the past 40 years are pretty stark. Deficits go up under Republican Presidents due to tax cuts and the dreams of economic growth being sufficient to offset cuts have been a fantasy.
12% inflation. on the brink of recession, maybe a war. yeah right.
 

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Question:
What Airfares are triple or quadrupled? I just bought several airline tickets and they are about the same as they were 18 months ago.

What travel is up 50%? Gas is up about 27%. What else?

Some things are in short supply, but some things are always in short supply. What particularly?

Based on current statistics from the BLS, prices are up 2.6% this year overall.

I think that Biden's policies are dangerous, but let's not get carried away!
Price a ticket OMA-LAS early Sept. $1,000 as of a week or so ago.
Been traveling much? Lodging is up about 50%.
Been to the grocery store lately? Head to the meat counter. A friend in Milwaukee said Rib steaks there were pricing at $25/lb. Everywhere else they're around $15. Go to any restaurant, steak prices have gone up at least 50%.
How are those vehicle prices going?
Been looking at real estate? Are they up 2.6% year over year?

Please tell me you don't buy the inflation numbers released by any government.
 

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Price a ticket OMA-LAS early Sept. $1,000 as of a week or so ago.
Been traveling much? Lodging is up about 50%.
Been to the grocery store lately? Head to the meat counter. A friend in Milwaukee said Rib steaks there were pricing at $25/lb. Everywhere else they're around $15. Go to any restaurant, steak prices have gone up at least 50%.
How are those vehicle prices going?
Been looking at real estate? Are they up 2.6% year over year?

Please tell me you don't buy the inflation numbers released by any government.

good ol' anecdata with a heaping side Conspiracy Theory
 
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Price a ticket OMA-LAS early Sept. $1,000 as of a week or so ago.
Been traveling much? Lodging is up about 50%.
Been to the grocery store lately? Head to the meat counter. A friend in Milwaukee said Rib steaks there were pricing at $25/lb. Everywhere else they're around $15. Go to any restaurant, steak prices have gone up at least 50%.
How are those vehicle prices going?
Been looking at real estate? Are they up 2.6% year over year?

Please tell me you don't buy the inflation numbers released by any government.
1. Atlanta to Las Vegas during that time is $577. Atlanta to Omaha is $375. Omaha to Orlando is $416. Maybe you should not just look at a single airfare to a specific place at a specific time and then think that it covers all things at all times.

2. I travel a lot. I was in Puerto Rico two weeks ago and paid $100 less than 2 years ago for the Hilton resort in Ponce. I was in Chattanooga last weekend and paid $185 at a Hampton in near the tourist sites, about the same as always. I'm in North Platte now and the average room rate is around $100 a night, about the same as 2 years ago.

3. I do all of our grocery shopping and have not been over budget this year. The best Prime Rib still goes for about $17/lb. Rib-eye is around $13/lb. Your friend in Milwaukee needs to shop better.

4. I can buy a new Toyota Corolla LE for around $18,500 now. I bought one in 2003 with far less equipment for $16,200 (inflated would be $23,700).

5. Real estate is up a lot this year. I don't mind because I own my house.

Inflation is up, but the examples you give are ridiculous and make you look silly.
 

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Even the reported inflation rate through May says 5%.
It's 5% on an annual basis. Through the end of May, prices have increased 2.6%.

If you don't believe the Government numbers, then so be it. But your anecdotal examples aren't worth anything.
 
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You can't really be this stupid, can you? Were you even conscious over the past 30 years? Have you completely forgotten about the global financial crisis that began in 2008 during Bush's last year?

Since you don't seem to remember any of this recent history, here are annual budget deficits for the last 30 years:

  • 1992 - $290.3 billion budget deficit
  • 1993 - $255.1 billion budget deficit
  • 1994 - $203.2 billion budget deficit
  • 1995 - $164 billion budget deficit
  • 1996 - $107.4 billion budget deficit
  • 1997 - $21.9 billion budget deficit
  • 1998 - $69.3 billion budget surplus
  • 1999 - $125.6 billion budget surplus
  • 2000 - $236.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2001 - $128.2 billion budget surplus
  • 2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit
  • 2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
  • 2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
  • 2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
  • 2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
  • 2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
  • 2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
  • 2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
  • 2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
  • 2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
  • 2013 - $719 billion budget deficit
  • 2014 - $514 billion budget deficit
  • 2015 - $439 billion budget deficit
  • 2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
  • 2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
  • 2018 - $779 billion budget deficit
  • 2019 - $960 billion budget deficit (projected)
  • 2020 - $3.3 trillion budget deficit (projected)
You may note the following:

Budget deficits declined steadily over Clinton's term, due in large part to tax increases passed by GHWB and Clinton, some cost cutting, and economic growth, to the point there was actually a surplus at the end of his term.

Bush pushed through a tax cut at the beginning of his term, and, whattya know, we got budget deficits again.

The GFC happened 2008 and revenues plummeted. Yeah, the deficit was $1.4 trillion during Obama's first year, but he had no control over that and it declined steadily over the course of his term, and if he'd been able to pass some tax increases, they would have likely continued declining. Then Don the Con came into office, he cut taxes, and deficits exploded.

Bottom line, we need to increase taxes on the wealthy. It's obscene that they are paying nearly nothing in taxes.

Democrats are not fiscally perfect, but the trends over the past 40 years are pretty stark. Deficits go up under Republican Presidents due to tax cuts and the dreams of economic growth being sufficient to offset cuts have been a fantasy.
First get off the budget numbers. Look at what actually happened. Not what they expected to happen. Budget also doesn't include what's borrowed from the social security fund.

Clinton tax increase provided about 42 billion extra per year. Not insignificant but not even close to the reason. Cutting spending helped too. At the end of the day though the surplus was the tech boom and economy around it of which Clinton had almost zero role in. He's also a good part of the financial crisis with this act.


Doesn't mean Bush and other politicians at the time get to avoid the blame for their part in passing it and not correcting it.

Didn't particularly like some of the Bush tax cuts. Could have left the top rate alone. Liked the reduction to long term capital gains. Dividends I could go either way. I think the lower rate does help with people in retirement where that's a solid portion of their income. Designed to motivate people to invest. Not sure it really did/does that.

Obamacare

I think Trump tax changes would be fine long term. Overall revenues increased every year (except maybe 2020?). Corporate tax cuts played some role in the deficit but deficits were more about the spending side including the hole we were already in. $500 bil per year in interest. That's 1/3 of Clinton's entire annual spending. Obviously part of that is 25 years difference but still. That's a pretty amazing number to start your budget with.
 

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1. Atlanta to Las Vegas during that time is $577. Atlanta to Omaha is $375. Omaha to Orlando is $416. Maybe you should not just look at a single airfare to a specific place at a specific time and then think that it covers all things at all times.

2. I travel a lot. I was in Puerto Rico two weeks ago and paid $100 less than 2 years ago for the Hilton resort in Ponce. I was in Chattanooga last weekend and paid $185 at a Hampton in near the tourist sites, about the same as always. I'm in North Platte now and the average room rate is around $100 a night, about the same as 2 years ago.

3. I do all of our grocery shopping and have not been over budget this year. The best Prime Rib still goes for about $17/lb. Rib-eye is around $13/lb. Your friend in Milwaukee needs to shop better.

4. I can buy a new Toyota Corolla LE for around $18,500 now. I bought one in 2003 with far less equipment for $16,200 (inflated would be $23,700).

5. Real estate is up a lot this year. I don't mind because I own my house.

Inflation is up, but the examples you give are ridiculous and make you look silly.
gas up 50%, dems will always paint a good picture, look at your bank account. inflation is here..
 

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Or he can just take the high road and not single out a teenager. But then again, you just have to be always starting shit. Kid's gone, we all know the story, I guess some of us just have higher expectations of a head coach as opposed to a dumb teenager.

First get off the budget numbers. Look at what actually happened. Not what they expected to happen. Budget also doesn't include what's borrowed from the social security fund.

Clinton tax increase provided about 42 billion extra per year. Not insignificant but not even close to the reason. Cutting spending helped too. At the end of the day though the surplus was the tech boom and economy around it of which Clinton had almost zero role in. He's also a good part of the financial crisis with this act.


Doesn't mean Bush and other politicians at the time get to avoid the blame for their part in passing it and not correcting it.

Didn't particularly like some of the Bush tax cuts. Could have left the top rate alone. Liked the reduction to long term capital gains. Dividends I could go either way. I think the lower rate does help with people in retirement where that's a solid portion of their income. Designed to motivate people to invest. Not sure it really did/does that.

Obamacare

I think Trump tax changes would be fine long term. Overall revenues increased every year (except maybe 2020?). Corporate tax cuts played some role in the deficit but deficits were more about the spending side including the hole we were already in. $500 bil per year in interest. That's 1/3 of Clinton's entire annual spending. Obviously part of that is 25 years difference but still. That's a pretty amazing number to start your budget with.
You're both missing my point, which is that budget deficits explode under Republican Presidents and go down under Democratic Presidents. Part of it is tax policy and part of it is spending.... and that's the thing. Republicans like to pretend they are fiscally conservative, but they aren't. When they are in power, they cut taxes and spend like crazy. They don't actually cut spending. Then a Democrat comes into power in the wake of some shitty Republican policies, and the Republicans accuse Democrates of wanting to tax and spend. Well, tax and spend is at least better than cut taxes and spend. Ain't it?

That's my point. I'm sick of Republicans trying to paint Democrats as fiscally irresponsible when Republicans routinely cut taxes and spend like drunken sailors when they have the White House, but block any attempts to try and raise taxes when a Democrat gets into office and tries to fix the problems the Republicans have created.

Side note, continuing to blame the massive deficits at the beginning of Obama's term on Obama is just being ignorant. The GFC actually happened. It caused massive declines in revenues. It had nothing to do with Obama.
 

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1. Atlanta to Las Vegas during that time is $577. Atlanta to Omaha is $375. Omaha to Orlando is $416. Maybe you should not just look at a single airfare to a specific place at a specific time and then think that it covers all things at all times.

2. I travel a lot. I was in Puerto Rico two weeks ago and paid $100 less than 2 years ago for the Hilton resort in Ponce. I was in Chattanooga last weekend and paid $185 at a Hampton in near the tourist sites, about the same as always. I'm in North Platte now and the average room rate is around $100 a night, about the same as 2 years ago.

3. I do all of our grocery shopping and have not been over budget this year. The best Prime Rib still goes for about $17/lb. Rib-eye is around $13/lb. Your friend in Milwaukee needs to shop better.

4. I can buy a new Toyota Corolla LE for around $18,500 now. I bought one in 2003 with far less equipment for $16,200 (inflated would be $23,700).

5. Real estate is up a lot this year. I don't mind because I own my house.

Inflation is up, but the examples you give are ridiculous and make you look silly.
here here, I know we don't agree on much, but I appreciate you looking at the actual sources of the inflation. The vast majority of price increases are due to external effects: Covid-related supply problems, coming-out-of-Covid demand booms, and unpredictable effects of Russian hacking (Colonial pipeline and the meat industry).
 

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You're both missing my point, which is that budget deficits explode under Republican Presidents and go down under Democratic Presidents. Part of it is tax policy and part of it is spending.... and that's the thing. Republicans like to pretend they are fiscally conservative, but they aren't. When they are in power, they cut taxes and spend like crazy. They don't actually cut spending. Then a Democrat comes into power in the wake of some shitty Republican policies, and the Republicans accuse Democrates of wanting to tax and spend. Well, tax and spend is at least better than cut taxes and spend. Ain't it?

That's my point. I'm sick of Republicans trying to paint Democrats as fiscally irresponsible when Republicans routinely cut taxes and spend like drunken sailors when they have the White House, but block any attempts to try and raise taxes when a Democrat gets into office and tries to fix the problems the Republicans have created.

Side note, continuing to blame the massive deficits at the beginning of Obama's term on Obama is just being ignorant. The GFC actually happened. It caused massive declines in revenues. It had nothing to do with Obama.
democrats are fiscally irresponsible. communism of the left.
 

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1. Atlanta to Las Vegas during that time is $577. Atlanta to Omaha is $375. Omaha to Orlando is $416. Maybe you should not just look at a single airfare to a specific place at a specific time and then think that it covers all things at all times.

2. I travel a lot. I was in Puerto Rico two weeks ago and paid $100 less than 2 years ago for the Hilton resort in Ponce. I was in Chattanooga last weekend and paid $185 at a Hampton in near the tourist sites, about the same as always. I'm in North Platte now and the average room rate is around $100 a night, about the same as 2 years ago.

3. I do all of our grocery shopping and have not been over budget this year. The best Prime Rib still goes for about $17/lb. Rib-eye is around $13/lb. Your friend in Milwaukee needs to shop better.

4. I can buy a new Toyota Corolla LE for around $18,500 now. I bought one in 2003 with far less equipment for $16,200 (inflated would be $23,700).

5. Real estate is up a lot this year. I don't mind because I own my house.

Inflation is up, but the examples you give are ridiculous and make you look silly.
Speaking of looking silly, I said Oma to LAS, not ATL to LAS. And if you meant Oma to LAS, the $577 fare is for a freaking 10+ hour trip, a 4+ hour trip is $968.

BS on your travel costs too, and there isn't a place where Rib Eye is under $15, minimum.

You admit real estate is up.

Why don't you list all the examples of lower cost items that really matter to people. How about you tell us how much less cars cost too. Talk about silly.
 

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Lol geebus man

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That's nice, but I don't book flights that take 15 hours to go 1/3 the way across the US.

If you don't agree with the tenor of the thread, list all the antidoctal items that cost less or have remained the same.
 

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Price a ticket OMA-LAS early Sept. $1,000 as of a week or so ago.
Been traveling much? Lodging is up about 50%.
Been to the grocery store lately? Head to the meat counter. A friend in Milwaukee said Rib steaks there were pricing at $25/lb. Everywhere else they're around $15. Go to any restaurant, steak prices have gone up at least 50%.
How are those vehicle prices going?
Been looking at real estate? Are they up 2.6% year over year?

Please tell me you don't buy the inflation numbers released by any government.
And this folks is where anecdotal evidence makes one look like a rere
 

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Speaking of looking silly, I said Oma to LAS, not ATL to LAS. And if you meant Oma to LAS, the $577 fare is for a freaking 10+ hour trip, a 4+ hour trip is $968.

BS on your travel costs too, and there isn't a place where Rib Eye is under $15, minimum.

You admit real estate is up.

Why don't you list all the examples of lower cost items that really matter to people. How about you tell us how much less cars cost too. Talk about silly.
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88 bucks?! Damn, must be a red eye flight on Spirit.

OP was only $912 off!
Try booking it. It isn't real. For $600 dollars you can get Frontier'ed. If you want real airlines, with flight times under 15 hours, you're in the range of what I wrote, give or take $200. For those that don't understand travel, costs change regularly.

All those denying inflation is real, just list all the real products that cost the same or less than they did a year ago. All have established fuel prices are up, yet apparently some don't think that matters to everything. There are some real economists here.
 

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Try booking it. It isn't real. For $600 dollars you can get Frontier'ed. If you want real airlines, with flight times under 15 hours, you're in the range of what I wrote, give or take $200. For those that don't understand travel, costs change regularly.
Sorry bro. Those are direct flights ROUND TRIP. 3 hr flight times. Omaha to LA. Almost all around $300 on airlines like American.

Yeah the super cheap is on allegiant, they're a budget airline. But still direct. Still 3 hr flight time. (Side note: I appreciate your dishonesty because it caused me to consider booking a weekend trip to LA in September for only $83 for a fun weekend getaway).

You lied. Or your one of those olds who uses a travel agent and she wanted extra commission.
 
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1. Atlanta to Las Vegas during that time is $577. Atlanta to Omaha is $375. Omaha to Orlando is $416. Maybe you should not just look at a single airfare to a specific place at a specific time and then think that it covers all things at all times.

2. I travel a lot. I was in Puerto Rico two weeks ago and paid $100 less than 2 years ago for the Hilton resort in Ponce. I was in Chattanooga last weekend and paid $185 at a Hampton in near the tourist sites, about the same as always. I'm in North Platte now and the average room rate is around $100 a night, about the same as 2 years ago.

3. I do all of our grocery shopping and have not been over budget this year. The best Prime Rib still goes for about $17/lb. Rib-eye is around $13/lb. Your friend in Milwaukee needs to shop better.

4. I can buy a new Toyota Corolla LE for around $18,500 now. I bought one in 2003 with far less equipment for $16,200 (inflated would be $23,700).

5. Real estate is up a lot this year. I don't mind because I own my house.

Inflation is up, but the examples you give are ridiculous and make you look silly.
airfare isn't that much different. I'm on planes literally every weekend. As far as economy/taxes - small business owners (20 years here) employ the majority of american workers. Not corporations. When taxes go up, employees lose jobs and their pay goes down. When taxes are cut, the opposite phenomenon happens. I'll leave it to you to figure out the math...
 

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You're both missing my point, which is that budget deficits explode under Republican Presidents and go down under Democratic Presidents. Part of it is tax policy and part of it is spending.... and that's the thing. Republicans like to pretend they are fiscally conservative, but they aren't. When they are in power, they cut taxes and spend like crazy. They don't actually cut spending. Then a Democrat comes into power in the wake of some shitty Republican policies, and the Republicans accuse Democrates of wanting to tax and spend. Well, tax and spend is at least better than cut taxes and spend. Ain't it?

That's my point. I'm sick of Republicans trying to paint Democrats as fiscally irresponsible when Republicans routinely cut taxes and spend like drunken sailors when they have the White House, but block any attempts to try and raise taxes when a Democrat gets into office and tries to fix the problems the Republicans have created.

Side note, continuing to blame the massive deficits at the beginning of Obama's term on Obama is just being ignorant. The GFC actually happened. It caused massive declines in revenues. It had nothing to do with Obama.
I got your point but it was focused on the tax angle in the op. The tax law changes both ways are a small part of it. I agree neither side has helped themselves with the spending side. It really just comes down to what the money is being spent on.

In the end though the overall economy is far and away the largest factor. GFC, coronavirus, tech boom, etc. Not to say that none of the presidents have any control over those things. In some cases it's next to nothing. In some it's a little bit. Giving Clinton credit for the tech boom is like blaming Obama for the GFC.
 
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Sorry bro. Those are direct flights ROUND TRIP. 3 hr flight times. Omaha to LA. Almost all around $300 on airlines like American.

Yeah the super cheap is on allegiant, they're a budget airline. But still direct. Still 3 hr flight time. (Side note: I appreciate your dishonesty because it caused me to consider booking a weekend trip to LA in September for only $83 for a fun weekend getaway).

You lied. Or your one of those olds who uses a travel agent and she wanted extra commission.
BS. Try going through the booking process. They're not there. Try 9/2 back 9/6.
 

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BS. Try going through the booking process. They're not there. Try 9/2 back 9/6.
First, Google flights does not list flights that aren't available. They get the data direct from carriers. I've used them for a decade.

Second...here you go (I could fly back on Allegiant for $200 less and nonstop, but you're a snobby traveler so you'd have to stop in PHX for 30 minutes). Nowhere near $1000. Wait... were you traveling first class?

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EDIT: If you're super picky and like the "Main Cabin Extra" that has tons of legroom and priority boarding, it's still not even half of what you quoted:

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