Is there a plan B

[SnohomishRed]

*** Please Note*** Not a negative post - I am in full support with this staff on trying to go for higher level recruits.

However when will it become clear if the recruits they think they will get, will actually sign? Do they have a plan B if it doesnt come together

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

Nope, no plan B at all, a dozen plus scholarships will roll over to the 2017 class.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

The good newz is, I am sure they have a plan B, the bad newz is, they might have to use it. Seems like a long shot they are going to get everyone they had hoped to get, but most staffs go through that at most places I am sure.

 

[timnsun]

*** Please Note*** Not a negative post - I am in full support with this staff on trying to go for higher level recruits.

However when will it become clear if the recruits they think they will get, will actually sign? Do they have a plan B if it doesnt come together

Trying to be patient here, but just because you say it's not a negative post doesn't make it so...

Do you really believe they might not have a plan B? One thing I would bet the house on is they are seasoned veterans in recruiting, and not getting their top targets doesn't cause a panic for them. Disappointment maybe, but they most definitely have a plan B.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Let me rephrase so there is no lean towards this being negative - Yes I am sure they have a back up plan - I am wondering when this goes into effect as time is running short - As stated before I am all for the coaches shooting for the bigger fish rather than settling. My question really has more to do with timing

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

The good newz is, I am sure they have a plan B, the bad newz is, they might have to use it. Seems like a long shot they are going to get everyone they had hoped to get, but most staffs go through that at most places I am sure.

The crazy thing about all of this, the lack of "additional offers" that went out in the last month. Either the staff feels really good about where they currently stand with the remaining targets or there's going to be some new offers going out real quick. Or, they're incompetent and have no idea what they're doing, according to Peelini groupies.

 

[HuskerAlum92]

We've been told that we have a lot of recruiting momentum behind the scenes, and that we just need to be patient for it to become apparent. I wonder if those who stated that opinion still have it.

 

[redwine65]

http://www.scout.com/college/footba...recruiting-is-now-an-afterthought-for-simmons

 

[TwinsRRUs]

Since Wilson changed his committment to Oregon, have the coaches been after any other higher level QBs?

I was thinking back in the summer people on here were saying they wanted/needed 2 QBs in this class because of the lack of them after 2016.

 

[Nebraska Fan]

The crazy thing about all of this, the lack of "additional offers" that went out in the last month. Either the staff feels really good about where they currently stand with the remaining targets or there's going to be some new offers going out real quick. Or, they're incompetent and have no idea what they're doing, according to Peelini groupies.

I would think there comes a point where if you are going after someone who is in the mix with other power 5 teams you would want an official visit or pass on offering.

 

[dinglefritz]

Like every other coaching staff in the country they have a recruiting board filled with prospects at every position ranked according to their preference and you know that. Guys like Devine pop up late in the process all the time.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

I would think there comes a point where if you are going after someone who is in the mix with other power 5 teams you would want an official visit or pass on offering.

Oh wow.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Since when are the super-fans here concerned with filling a scholarship class? Isn't the right thing to do is just sit on your thumb and throw them at kids who wouldn't sniff playing time in the WAC?

 

[NikkiSixx]

... they are seasoned veterans in recruiting ...

made me laugh

 

[timnsun]

made me laugh

Really? Coaching for as long as they have and you disagree? Wow.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Really? Coaching for as long as they have and you disagree? Wow.

Wow.. C'mon, just because I dance in my underwear all the time, for years, doesn't make me a good dancer.

The moral of the story is, time spent doing something doesn't always mean the person is going to be an expert. Don't you know of some golfers who have been doing it for years and still suck at it?

 

[leodisflowers]

Wow.. C'mon, just because I dance in my underwear all the time, for years, doesn't make me a good dancer.

The moral of the story is, time spent doing something doesn't always mean the person is going to be an expert. Don't you know of some golfers who have been doing it for years and still suck at it?

I agree with that statement Nikki. Spot on in my opinion. At the end of the day we just need to see results. I really love reading these boards and hearing about what is going on, but we need results.

 

[HuskerAlum92]

Wow.. C'mon, just because I dance in my underwear all the time, for years, doesn't make me a good dancer.

The moral of the story is, time spent doing something doesn't always mean the person is going to be an expert. Don't you know of some golfers who have been doing it for years and still suck at it?

Riley is highly respected among the coaching ranks, yet our dancing-in-their-underwear fans love to scream from the rooftops that he sucks at coaching. I'm appalled to be even loosely associated with that.

 

[timnsun]

Wow.. C'mon, just because I dance in my underwear all the time, for years, doesn't make me a good dancer.

The moral of the story is, time spent doing something doesn't always mean the person is going to be an expert. Don't you know of some golfers who have been doing it for years and still suck at it?

Seasoned veteran means experienced. Where did I say expert?

Let me try to put it in simpler terms... Riley has been doing this for years... Do you really think this will be the year he says, "Wow, guess I got caught dancing in my underwear... I should have had a plan B!"

Stop trying to stir the pot and say I said things I did not.

Edit: so, do you think Riley is unprepared for these final 3 weeks? That this is all new to him?

 

[timnsun]

I agree with that statement Nikki. Spot on in my opinion. At the end of the day we just need to see results. I really love reading these boards and hearing about what is going on, but we need results.

cant argue this one... We do need to see results. I've always felt it's better to grade the test once the test is finished, but some on here would rather grade the test now even though the final 10 questions haven't been answered yet. Why is that?

Not saying you, but definitely a handful of others...

 

[leodisflowers]

cant argue this one... We do need to see results. I've always felt it's better to grade the test once the test is finished, but some on here would rather grade the test now even though the final 10 questions haven't been answered yet. Why is that?

Not saying you, but definitely a handful of others...

I agree with that. I'm just more anxious than anything. I know Riley has a solid reputation with a lot of folks, I'm just ready to see some results. My wife is an Oregon Stater, and I worked with a ton of them up in the Portland area. I've heard the argument on both sides when Riley was at OSU. Now that he is here I'd like him to takes the keys to the Mercedes and put the pedal to the medal and change the perception of Nebraska football and himself. Thank god the dead period is ending, and signing day is coming up.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Seasoned veteran means experienced. Where did I say expert?

Let me try to put it in simpler terms... Riley has been doing this for years... Do you really think this will be the year he says, "Wow, guess I got caught dancing in my underwear... I should have had a plan B!"

Stop trying to stir the pot and say I said things I did not.

Edit: so, do you think Riley is unprepared for these final 3 weeks? That this is all new to him?

No, I don't think Riley is unprepared at all, and that IS part of the problem. For someone so prepared, the results have been really disappointing.

When some fly by the seat type of coach does poorly, it's easy to see that he wasn't committed to this or that, wasn't organized, etc.. it is easy to make excuses for his failures, or at least explain why success alluded him.

When another guy who seemingly does everything right, and still doesn't get the results, it makes you wonder what the real problem is, because it's much harder to explain why the output doesn't match the input.

As you say, they are "seasoned veterans in recruiting"...

 

[timnsun]

No, I don't think Riley is unprepared at all, and that IS part of the problem. For someone so prepared, the results have been really disappointing.

When some fly by the seat type of coach does poorly, it's easy to see that he wasn't committed to this or that, wasn't organized, etc.. it is easy to make excuses for his failures, or at least explain why success alluded him.

When another guy who seemingly does everything right, and still doesn't get the results, it makes you wonder what the real problem is, because it's much harder to explain why the output doesn't match the input.

This all would make a ton of sense if the recruiting cycle was finished and these were the results. I know we have missed out on some recruits, even those high on Nebraska, but we're still in on several big names. If none of them pan out I'm right here with you. But I don't see the value in already judging him before the cycle is done.

I live in Minnesota and gave a buddy a hard time about the game last night, considering where we've been so far this season. He didn't even bat an eye about a coaching change... He says pitino has a top 20 class ready to sign and to give him time. The only hopeful signs in Minnesota are about next year. Why can't we give our coaches some time?

 

[spinner4]

This all would make a ton of sense if the recruiting cycle was finished and these were the results. I know we have missed out on some recruits, even those high on Nebraska, but we're still in on several big names. If none of them pan out I'm right here with you. But I don't see the value in already judging him before the cycle is done.

I live in Minnesota and gave a buddy a hard time about the game last night, considering where we've been so far this season. He didn't even bat an eye about a coaching change... He says pitino has a top 20 class ready to sign and to give him time. The only hopeful signs in Minnesota are about next year. Why can't we give our coaches some time?

Because we aren't talking Minnesota basketball my friend.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Why can't we give our coaches some time?

Good question, and my response is, because this was a stop gap measure to begin with. You have to question why some AD would go out and hire a 62 year old coach. We def had a poisonous/cancerous type of deal here with the last one, so this was just a temporary thing to clean up the mess. There is a problem however because it was sold as something entirely different to the fan base. We were told one thing, and are getting another.

 

[SilentCommit]

Good question, and my response is, because this was a stop gap measure to begin with. You have to question why some AD would go out and hire a 62 year old coach. We def had a poisonous/cancerous type of deal here with the last one, so this was just a temporary thing to clean up the mess. There is a problem however because it was sold as something entirely different to the fan base. We were told one thing, and are getting another.

We, as fans, weren't promised anything. At no point were any promises made, beyond vague platitudes about our talent and program. We weren't promised a top 10 recruiting class, national championship, B1G championship, West Division championship, or even a victory over Purdue. We were promised nothing. This hire wasn't sold to us, it was presented to us.

 

[timnsun]

Good question, and my response is, because this was a stop gap measure to begin with. You have to question why some AD would go out and hire a 62 year old coach. We def had a poisonous/cancerous type of deal here with the last one, so this was just a temporary thing to clean up the mess. There is a problem however because it was sold as something entirely different to the fan base. We were told one thing, and are getting another.

You may be absolutely right, but that's assuming he can't turn things around and point this ship in the direction that will win championships. Based off of this past season, it looks like you're right.

But what if the problems were worse than any of us realized, and this coming season, rather than going 6-7, we go 10-2? This is where we probably differ... I will always think this is possible until it's not... Eternal optimist. I could easily be wrong. we will know soon enough I guess.

 

[NikkiSixx]

We, as fans, weren't promised anything. At no point were any promises made, beyond vague platitudes about our talent and program. We weren't promised a top 10 recruiting class, national championship, B1G championship, West Division championship, or even a victory over Purdue. We were promised nothing. This hire wasn't sold to us, it was presented to us.

I dunno, it was def presented, but then also "sold" after the fact... something about winning the games that matter.

I can only speak for myself here, but to me, I saw a program that had problems, but was getting 9 wins a year. That probably wasn't sustainable, but who knows for sure.. Now we got a big losing season and I think back to what the ex guy said about "lets see who they get in here and how he does" type of thing.

I look back at that and think, yeah, that guy was kinda right.

 

[artguy68]

How is it possible that people on this board continue to argue about the same things, saying the same things over and over again, and not get utterly bored with it all?

 

[KingBlackshirt]

Stewart interviewing at UTSA is coming at a bad time with Jackson and Simmons. Hope he sticks

 

[SnohomishRed]

You may be absolutely right, but that's assuming he can't turn things around and point this ship in the direction that will win championships. Based off of this past season, it looks like you're right.

But what if the problems were worse than any of us realized, and this coming season, rather than going 6-7, we go 10-2? This is where we probably differ... I will always think this is possible until it's not... Eternal optimist. I could easily be wrong. we will know soon enough I guess.

Ultimately this whole thing is entertainment - If it makes it fun for you to be thinking sunny thoughts then I say go for it. Other people might want to be more critical . Either way it is being driven by a person passion for NU football, thats why we spend time on a fricking message board rather than doing more productive things.

I dont think either side or any side is wrong for that matter it is all aboiut opinion. You are a reasonable poster, you state your opinion respectfully, I may not agree with it but it is reasonable.

My concern with recruiting is not that I do not agree with the approach to go for it but time is getting short and no it is not normal to need this many recruits this close to signing day. So either they are very confident or they must have a hell of a back up plan - was just wondering which it is

 

[SnohomishRed]

I dunno, it was def presented, but then also "sold" after the fact... something about winning the games that matter.

I can only speak for myself here, but to me, I saw a program that had problems, but was getting 9 wins a year. That probably wasn't sustainable, but who knows for sure.. Now we got a big losing season and I think back to what the ex guy said about "lets see who they get in here and how he does" type of thing.

I look back at that and think, yeah, that guy was kinda right.

Careful that may be construed as Bloner talk

 

[Soda Popinski]

Because we aren't talking Minnesota basketball my friend.

Since 2002 the highest final ranking we've had is 14. We might as well be talking about Minnesota basketball.

 

[headcard]

Stewart interviewing at UTSA is coming at a bad time with Jackson and Simmons. Hope he sticks

Don't think it will effect Simmons as much as Butler, but still not good timing.