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Is Riley's staff the type......

donahues17

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to not focus as much on the weaker teams and focus more on the stronger teams? It just seems with his record of defeating top 10 teams but losing to weaker teams that this is the case. I don't know the man or his staff or have inside info, but it just seems odd for your defense to give up 55 to a bad team and then play darn good against a good team. With the year we are having, it wouldn't bother me to see them take 2 weeks to prepare for Iowa and take down 2 top 10 teams. But again, it would be nice to finish at least .500 with a pending bowl game to possibly finish 7-6.

I am not saying he did this or is the type to do this but it sure seemed to be that way.
 
Do you think if Tommy started the Purdue may have been different? We had a first time starter have 5 turnovers 4 at least resulted in red zone opportunities and 28 off to's. That was the game
 
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Tommy starting would have made a huge difference. Probably a win. I don't buy the notion that Riley prepares more/harder for good teams, though there is something to be said about his teams' ability to knock off top teams while losing to other lesser teams. Regardless, he will have 2 weeks to prepare for Iowa anyway, so let's hope it results in a season ending win, catapulting the team to .500 and a bowl game for the chance to finish above .500.
 
Do you think if Tommy started the Purdue may have been different? We had a first time starter have 5 turnovers 4 at least resulted in red zone opportunities and 28 off to's. That was the game

Every team deals with injuries though. We went into the game knowing Tommy wasn't going to play. That's far different than scrapping the gameplan because he went down in the first series. Giving up 55 points to Purdue is unfathomably bad - trying to find a way to spin it isn't going to be productive IMHO. I'm just glad we pulled out a win against Sparty to put the train back on the tracks. Things were getting very ugly for awhile around here.
 
I saw a stat that showed he had a pretty good record the week following top 10 wins at OSU.
 
Every team deals with injuries though. We went into the game knowing Tommy wasn't going to play. That's far different than scrapping the gameplan because he went down in the first series. Giving up 55 points to Purdue is unfathomably bad - trying to find a way to spin it isn't going to be productive IMHO. I'm just glad we pulled out a win against Sparty to put the train back on the tracks. Things were getting very ugly for awhile around here.
Not trying spin it, it is a f'n fact that backup provided opposing team 28 pts. Are we great no but don't kid yourself on what actually happened. If you are then don't try to take away the win vs MSU period
 
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Not trying spin it, it is a f'n fact that backup provided opposing team 28 pts. Are we great no but don't kid yourself on what actually happened. If you are then don't try to take away the win vs MSU period

I'm not diminishing any aspect of the win against Sparty. Go back and read what I actually posted. Our team allowed Purdue to score 55 points. That's what the final scoreboard says. Whether it comes from special teams gaffes, ineffective defense, turnovers, or any other possible combination, the fact remains that we lost to a team that hadn't beaten an FBS team since Oct 4, 2014. It wasn't a narrow loss. We hung 29 on them in the 4th quarter and still lost by 10.

And you are trying to spin it. The turnovers were not all immediate touchdowns. The anemic Purdue offense still had to convert those opportunities into points ... and they certainly did. Pinning this on Fyfe is spin. It isn't like we start that game up 28-0 if Tommy is playing. The game unfolded and it was a mess against arguably the worst team in the Big 10 over the past decade. I remember a Nebraska team that took a walk-on QB into a road game with a ranked K-State team and won. Purdue is still an awful football team and for one day in October, we found a way to be worse. Its not the end of the world but we need to be honest about the problems with this team.

We beat Michigan State. I'm really glad. Now I want to see us beat Rutgers in a convincing way. No luck. No coin flip. Just beat an inferior team because we can.
 
if we lose at Rutgers I think the players. fans and staff just want the season over and the remaining practices and the Iowa game are mailed in. A win over Rutgers puts a bowl game back on the table and the chance to knock off Iowa. 180 degree difference in program attitude depending on Rutgers outcome
 
if we lose at Rutgers I think the players. fans and staff just want the season over and the remaining practices and the Iowa game are mailed in. A win over Rutgers puts a bowl game back on the table and the chance to knock off Iowa. 180 degree difference in program attitude depending on Rutgers outcome
Win this weekend makes them bowl eligible
 
Win this weekend makes them bowl eligible


Nebraska ?? I know it is possible at 5-7 but by no means certain. I am not certain we want the scrutiny of backing into a bowl game at 5-7 if we lose to Iowa.
 
Nebraska ?? I know it is possible at 5-7 but by no means certain. I am not certain we want the scrutiny of backing into a bowl game at 5-7 if we lose to Iowa.
Not what I said.
 
SmokinI call it now we beat Iowa by 10-14 pts if healthy

A night game perhaps, a 11am k/o going to be a dogfight imho.

While Iowa's schedule is weak dont underestimate their ability. They are a sound cohesive unit; very few mistakes from seeing a few of their games.
 
I'm not diminishing any aspect of the win against Sparty. Go back and read what I actually posted. Our team allowed Purdue to score 55 points. That's what the final scoreboard says. Whether it comes from special teams gaffes, ineffective defense, turnovers, or any other possible combination, the fact remains that we lost to a team that hadn't beaten an FBS team since Oct 4, 2014. It wasn't a narrow loss. We hung 29 on them in the 4th quarter and still lost by 10.

And you are trying to spin it. The turnovers were not all immediate touchdowns. The anemic Purdue offense still had to convert those opportunities into points ... and they certainly did. Pinning this on Fyfe is spin. It isn't like we start that game up 28-0 if Tommy is playing. The game unfolded and it was a mess against arguably the worst team in the Big 10 over the past decade. I remember a Nebraska team that took a walk-on QB into a road game with a ranked K-State team and won. Purdue is still an awful football team and for one day in October, we found a way to be worse. Its not the end of the world but we need to be honest about the problems with this team.

We beat Michigan State. I'm really glad. Now I want to see us beat Rutgers in a convincing way. No luck. No coin flip. Just beat an inferior team because we can.

How often have we been -5 on turnover margin this season? This is the only time. This was the single largest factor in the loss to Purdue.

How many other teams l, even against Purdue, go -5 in turnovers and win? You can call this spin all you want, but it's not. It explains why we lost. Period.

You can say there was more than that, and that is true. But to say pointing out the 5 turnovers is spin is ridiculous!
 
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