Is Nebraska football dead?

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  1. F5Tornado

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    Not sure that would help if they're not recruiting top talent.
     
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  2. newAD

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    There’s 14 teams in the conference. How about we drop the bottom 4 and compare 10 to 10.
     
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  3. Bear Clone

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    Sure. Now go play round robin with those teams.

    Good luck.

    Oh, I forgot... you don't play the best teams.
     
  4. newAD

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    1-1 this year. Who’s delusional. Keep bragging about that tidbit when the Big 12 is left out of the playoff.
     
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    Id love to, wed have a better record.
     
  6. Bear Clone

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    LOL. Dude. My goodness.

    Alright man. Good luck rebuilding.

    I'm out. You are killing me with this stuff. See you in a bowl game. :)
     
  7. newAD

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    You are out? Promise?
     
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  8. dragonhawk1855

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    it depends on how you look at it
    KF is 4-3 vs the SEC in the NYD Outback Bowl game.
    finishing in the top 10 5 times, 2 more at @ #20 and #25. that makes 7 times in 20 years this year Iowa started out in the top 20 reaching as high #14 fell as far as #23, the 1st time that Iowa has gone this far ranked all season in both the AP and Coaches poll so yes they are relevant on the National Scene.
     
  9. SkerInCo

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    Of the closet...
     
  10. frostonthegrass

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  11. HawkIDrummer

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    Sounds like fun, I love to shoot.
     
  12. birdman1973

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    I think gbr has some good players. I do believe that neb coaches have not instilled the mental aspects of the game(kick ass, lets see what you got, I am not a neb fan but the black shirts had a mental attitude that it didn't make ANY difference who you were, they were going to knock the crap out of you! One neb fan said that Iowa practices looked like a frigging street fight! That attitude will make a average player better and an above average player great! Neb has some offense but the defense doesn't keep them on the field. No coach will ever ask someone or organization to come in an evaluate program for weak points, blind spots, or square pegs in round holes, Thus sos every year. Frost hasn't realized that no defense equals loses. You aren't going to win with a one dimensional team in the BIG.
     
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    Don't look now, but Illinois is a game away from bowl eligibility.

    Looks like it's between you and Northwestern for B1G West bottom feeder.
     
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    We beat them so it’d be almost par for the course to end up behind them by the end of the season.
     
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    I see lots of shit. I see our D is almost bad enough to be in the Big 12.
     
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    Yes.

    It will require the land encompassing the cities of Lincoln and Omaha.
     
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    A win over Maryland is probable. They are futile.
     
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  18. Clonewithasigh

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    When was the last time you were there?
     
  19. SW Lincoln Sker

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    Has the Big XII ever won a College Football Playoff game? No.
     
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    When was the last time Iowa State was relevant in anything football-related?
     
  21. iclone

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    Despite never having won a game in the NCAA men’s basketball tournament, Nebraska is now a basketball school with Mayor running the show.

    The Big 10 didn’t bring you in to win football games. They just wanted to produce “Big 10 Legends” programs with Tom Osborne for BTN...
     
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  22. PSUPride1

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    Only a moron would make that kind of trashbag, ignorant statement. JS represents himself. If we start tainting groups because of bad members there's going to be a lot of tarnished people in the world. And we are doing quite well and recruiting exceptionally well so obviously folks don't agree with you.
    Anyway, Nebreska is a great program with great fans. Difficult time right now but you'll be back. You need a game to reenergize the program.
     
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  23. SoFL Husker

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    It's dead. Too many recruiting challenges, in the social media era, there are WAY too many options for kids going to so many other schools. Parity. System challenges, but mostly numbers of players and population in Nebraska make it impossible.

    Frost needed to splash right away and bring in some studs, build a culture, build the brand back up but QUICKLY.

    Our hope was a turnaround and return to relevance to overcome the inherent recruiting challenges and population/lack of players in an age of parity and competition. TO had it made once he built what he had. No longer.

    We're dead. Dead Big Red. We had our moments, at least.
     
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  25. SoFL Husker

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    Also, our product of football right now looks miserable.

    A bunch of players trying to live up to a bygone age almost 30 years ago.

    Nobody is having fun out there.

    Athletics should be fun, not only do we suck and our Program is dead, it's miserable football. No fun to watch either.
     
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  26. Nebraska_Reality

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    Truth.
     
  27. pickr374

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    Iowa has 5 top 10 finishes, 3 NYD6/BCS bowl games and 2 conference titles (yes, they are shared and pre conference title games) since Nebraska last did any of those things once.
     
  28. SW Lincoln Sker

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    1994 Big 8 Tourney Champs
    1996 NIT Champs
     
  29. SkerInCo

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    Doesn't change the fact that you live in Iowa on a Nebraska message board. How have you not liked yourself yet?
     
  30. jmliehr

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    But then we wouldn’t be considered
     
  31. TheWayITellEm

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    This is one way to do it. The James Franklin model. Don't even concern yourself with the first fews years...just recruit-recruit-recruit...until you have all 4-stars and simply overwhelm your opponents with talent. Your coach is basically a CEO. An overseer.

    The other way is the PJ Fleck model. For this you need a dynamic individual who walks-the-walk. Great football coaching combined with motivation. Who gets young men to want to be their best in all aspects of their lives. Who steadily improves with with 3-star overachieving players....and then gradually improves recruiting also.
     
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  32. Rustys Dad

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    We suck. Time to get my VCR out.
     
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  33. Dean Pope

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    Pushing to make another bunch of changes makes you part of the problem. We've got to be patient and realistic. This is a losing program. We should celebrate if they even make a bowl at this point. Baby steps.
     
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    PJ Fleck is a team builder. His teams have a high floor and a low ceiling, but that can always change. James Franklin has done well, but there's a huge difference between the four stars at Penn State and the low end four stars that NU has signed in the last 5 years.
     
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    I agree. And Nebraska is at a disadvantage in hiring a new coach since fans & media will demand someone with successful head coaching at a Power 5 school. That limits the selection pool. That job at that point would only appeal to a coach who's on a hot seat, looking for a new start. We always snub our nose at the next Matt Campbell and Chris Klieman.
     
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    So are you saying that a younger Tom Osborne and Charlie McBride couldn’t come in right now and make us a winning program again? Of course, they could.
     
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    Not true, I am told by my Nebraska neighbors (here in Colorado) that Nebraska has the best fans in the world. That certainly hasn’t been my experience when they visit Boulder, or when I have visited Lincoln, but I keep hearing it. Reading this board confirms my thoughts about Nebraska fans.
     
  38. Nebraska_Reality

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    I've always been of the opinion that if someone has to remind you of how great they are...they aren't.
     
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  39. tdburg11

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    By your post, my guess is you did NOT graduate from PSU.
     
  40. Hardslider21

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    Urban was a quote CEO type then to you. Because he went room to room to oversee the staff and game plan also. Kinda worked out okay for OS.

    If you prefer the rah ra type of coach. That’s fine more than one way to go style wise.
    But talent wins, I would much rather have a coach that puts T250 kids on the field. Then constantly relying on low ranked kids and hoping they can be coached up.

    Scott has 2 highly rated OL in this class and another one already in 2021. All I was saying is give the man time. Riley dug a massive hole with his horrible recruiting. N didn’t get to this point overnight.
     
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