Is it better to play a QB that you develop or a hired gun?

[HuskerOH]

I saw this stat and was shocked. 63.2% of starting Power 4 Qb's are transfers. Below is a small paragraph from the article with the link from CBS Sports

Of those 36 projected new starters, 27 are transfers in their first seasons with their new programs, and 20 of those come from other power conference schools. In total, 44 of the 68 expected starters have transferred at some point in their careers. https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...-qb-by-class-star-rating-and-transfer-status/

Watching some of the games since Saturday, there seems to be some sputtering in QB play. Is it from transferring, trying to learn the new system or are they that bad? I would think you want to develop the O-line the most, but a very close second is the QB. Is the roulette wheel of QB's beginning to hurt the play on the field? Watching Miller last night from NDSU, who they developed, played a smart game and stayed within himself because he knew the system. Sanders looked skiddish and unsure of his protection. The Minn and UNC was flat out bad, and the QB from NC State looked out of sync all night.

What are your thoughts?

 

[janne]

You could have 8 years in the Colorado system and still be skiddish with that o-line.

 

[oldjar07]

It's not complicated. You play whoever can get you the most wins.

 

[itseasyas1-2-3]

I saw this stat and was shocked. 63.2% of starting Power 4 Qb's are transfers. Below is a small paragraph from the article with the link from CBS Sports

Of those 36 projected new starters, 27 are transfers in their first seasons with their new programs, and 20 of those come from other power conference schools. In total, 44 of the 68 expected starters have transferred at some point in their careers. https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...-qb-by-class-star-rating-and-transfer-status/

Watching some of the games since Saturday, there seems to be some sputtering in QB play. Is it from transferring, trying to learn the new system or are they that bad? I would think you want to develop the O-line the most, but a very close second is the QB. Is the roulette wheel of QB's beginning to hurt the play on the field? Watching Miller last night from NDSU, who they developed, played a smart game and stayed within himself because he knew the system. Sanders looked skiddish and unsure of his protection. The Minn and UNC was flat out bad, and the QB from NC State looked out of sync all night.

What are your thoughts?

For every Caleb Williams, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Jayden Daniels and Dillon Gabriel there are 5 QB's that bring their same "very average" ability with them. A lot of QB's, JD Daniels, Casey Thompson, Jeff Sims, Wertz, seem to have partnered up with their ability to always turn the ball over. BTW, the backup QB at Oklahoma will be Casey Thompson playing for his 4th team in 4 years.

 

[Big bo fan]

For every Caleb Williams, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, Jayden Daniels and Dillon Gabriel there are 5 QB's that bring their same "very average" ability with them. A lot of QB's, JD Daniels, Casey Thompson, Jeff Sims, Wertz, seem to have partnered up with their ability to always turn the ball over. BTW, the backup QB at Oklahoma will be Casey Thompson playing for his 4th team in 4 years.

Well technically he is 3rd string. But what a world CFB has turned into when a player can do this.

 

[HuskerMania257460]

All things being equal, you’d love to have a guy grow in your system for familiarity and development.

But you’re never going to turn an average to below average P5 QB into a top player no matter how much you develop them.

Players are incentivized to look around now to explore their worth, and there’s going to be a lot of teams desperate for talent at the most important position on the field.

I think you’re right, the amount of transfers in general are going to impact the quality of CFB negatively, but the cat is out of the bag.

Maybe some day NIL will become more regulated for 2+ year contracts and create a little more stability. It’s getting hard to keep up with one team, let alone the sport as a whole.

 

[headcard]

Speaking of transfer QB's, look at this guy Iowa cast aside.

 

[king_kong_]

26-34, 445 yards, 4 TDs

if that's skiddish here's hoping DR's shitting his pants in the pocket on every drop back

 

[TampaBaySkers]

26-34, 445 yards, 4 TDs

if that's skiddish here's hoping DR's shitting his pants in the pocket on every drop back

How did he perform against ranked opponents?

 

[king_kong_]

How did he perform against ranked opponents?

CU went 1-5 against ranked opponents

sanders threw for an avg of 294 yards in those games

got sacked a ton

 

[TampaBaySkers]

CU went 1-5 against ranked opponents

sanders threw for an avg of 294 yards in those games

got sacked a ton

Let’s hope we play like a ranked team. I’m pretty bullish on this season but I’m usually chugging the koolaid at this point

 

[leodisflowers]

Let’s hope we play like a ranked team. I’m pretty bullish on this season but I’m usually chugging the koolaid at this point

Agreed. Just have to see proof of concept.

 

[Huskers123456]

You would prefer to recruit good enough to develop your own, but if a transfer is better, take the transfer.

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

Whomever the better player is.

 

[bmb81664]

Speaking of transfer QB's, look at this guy Iowa cast aside.

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Wasn't this guy at Iowa? Apparently Kirk didn't think he could play.

 

[headcard]

Wasn't this guy at Iowa? Apparently Kirk didn't think he could play.

Yep. They sat him on the bench to play Decan Hill

 

[Bugeater]

If the hired gun is as good as Shane, then by all means, yes!

 

[SickOfPractice]

"...you’d love to have a guy grow in your system for familiarity and development."

For purely selfish reasons I choose a guy who was here for a few years. When talking about past QBs who even brings up Sam Keller who was here for what... 1 or 2 seasons? I can't even remember THAT much about him anymore.

When talking about "hired guns" at NU I usually revert to "That guy that came before Joe Ganz."

 

[HuskerOH]

All things being equal, you’d love to have a guy grow in your system for familiarity and development.

But you’re never going to turn an average to below average P5 QB into a top player no matter how much you develop them.

Players are incentivized to look around now to explore their worth, and there’s going to be a lot of teams desperate for talent at the most important position on the field.

I think you’re right, the amount of transfers in general are going to impact the quality of CFB negatively, but the cat is out of the bag.

Maybe some day NIL will become more regulated for 2+ year contracts and create a little more stability. It’s getting hard to keep up with one team, let alone the sport as a whole.

I never thought of having a 2 year NIL; that is worth pondering. Since the NCAA is worthless now, maybe the people writing the checks can influence the length of time at a school. Interesting.

 

[HuskerOH]

26-34, 445 yards, 4 TDs

if that's skiddish here's hoping DR's shitting his pants in the pocket on every drop back

I didn't see him sitting comfortably in the pocket very often during the game. Never said he had a bad game.

 

[HuskerOH]

Wasn't this guy at Iowa? Apparently Kirk didn't think he could play.

Sometimes it takes 3 years for the QB to fully develop and understand the game. If you cast him aside after two years to chase the golden ring you've done more harm than good. The shiny objects are more often fools gold than gold. It is hard to develop when you are constantly learning new playbooks.

 

[oldjar07]

"...you’d love to have a guy grow in your system for familiarity and development."

For purely selfish reasons I choose a guy who was here for a few years. When talking about past QBs who even brings up Sam Keller who was here for what... 1 or 2 seasons? I can't even remember THAT much about him anymore.

When talking about "hired guns" at NU I usually revert to "That guy that came before Joe Ganz."

I remember Keller as an embarrassment both on and off the field. He's disowned as a Husker in my eyes and is just one massive douche as a person. There was the cup incident and then he was one of the main guys pushing to get rid of NCAA football. If you make it your purpose in life to make other people miserable, I have little tolerance for that.