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This thing keeps showing up in Iowa City all the time. I thought Jesus Frost was never going to lose to Iowa?
Wow simply wow Nebraska is simply a 1 trick pony with football being the end all discussion 24/7 whereas Iowa is the total sports package. You see Iowa fan looks at athletics from the big picture view, as opposed to the only 1 sport matters mentality, knowing we pretty much dominate Nebraska in athletics (volleyball aside) makes us a confident bunch.
He is a troll, pure and simple, and terrible at it.
Seriously, he hasn’t posted a single thing of value, worse than all other Iowa posters here. When Kaz said he banned a few, I was hoping this was one of the banned.
He’s that pathetic.
There’s plenty Iowa fan can post without being banned. It baffles me that they think they can post their typical Iowa homeboard BS over here and get away with it. Their typical weak big8 versus strong big ten stuff especially. That BS has been debunked with stats and facts on multiple occasions, yet they still use it as an argument.
Historically Nebraska has the better FB program by a wide margin, I would never dispute that fact, however in the men’s sports overall Iowa has been very successful against Nebraska.
Yeah Thanks to your brother Brad TuckerThis thread is still going?
This thread is still going?
Yes. In fact, we just learned that the second worst athletic department in the B1G is the "total sports package".This thread is still going?
Pretty sure it’s also known as the swine flu.Pennsy had the Flu and choose to share his misery by giving us all a touch of Iowa.
Pretty sure it’s also known as the swine flu.
Yes, it has to last until August.This thread is still going?
This thing keeps showing up in Iowa City all the time. I thought Jesus Frost was never going to lose to Iowa?
Iowa has the 39th rated recruiting class according to rivals. Is that an improvement over past years or about where they usually finish? I am too lazy to research this further since Iowa sucks and isn’t worth my time. But if somebody on here knows the answer I would be interested.
I ask simply because I can’t for the life of me figure out why Iowa fans stick with Ferentz. They have all the tools necessary to be a much better program. But they stand loyally behind Captain Boring.
My gawd, after 13 completely stupid pages an Iowa fan actually has something meaningful to say. Congrats, and thank you. It's too bad these other morons constantly make your entire fan base look bad.I'm an Iowa fan chiming in.
Sorry I'm late to this thread - I was out drinkin'.
There is something to be said about history for both sides involved in this discussion.
For context:
Nebraska is tied with Notre Dame at 6th for all-time NCAA (FBS & FCS) football wins, behind Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Yale and Alabama.
Iowa is 61st, tied with Williams and Maryland.
Nebraska rightfully claims 5 national championships: 70, 71, 94, 95 & 97.
Iowa rightfully claims 1 national championship: 58.
Nebraska has won far, far more more consistently and on much bigger stages than Iowa has over time.
Facts are facts, so in my mind any fan who disparages or doubts the place that Nebraska holds in the college football world as a blue blood program is absolutely off their rocker. Nebraska has history, power, esteem and brand that Iowa simply doesn't match up to.
History is important.
Given the above, let's move on to the heart of the matter as I'll do my best to answer the OP's question re: why does Iowa put up with 8-4 Ferentz?
The answer is simple and obvious: Expectation vs. Hope.
I can understand why Iowa and Ferentz baffle Nebraska fans.
Nebraska is used to winning at a very, very high level and expects to get back to that.
Iowa is not used to winning at that high of a level and hopes to get there.
When you haven't done it (Iowa), you are going to hope for it more than expect it. You're less disappointed if it doesn't happen.
When you have done it (Nebraska), you are going to expect it more than hope for it. You're more disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Ferentz brings consistency to Iowa - we know what to expect in most years. It's not to Nebraska's standards, but it is to Iowa's.
Since Osborne retired in 1997, Nebraska has won a lot - but not to the level of what was expected. So, there was change and lots of it in order to build back to meeting expectations.
Solich (6 years: 58-19).
Callahan (4 years: 27-22).
Pelini (7 years: 66-27).
Riley (3 years: 19-19).
Frost (1 year: 4-8).
So, since the beginning of the 1998 season, Nebraska has won 174 games. And before the 1998 season, Nebraska had two coaches in 36 years: Osborne (25 years) and Devaney (11 years). I can't count how may games and titles they won.
And, since the beginning of the 1998 season (Fry's last), Iowa has won 155 games. And at the end of the 2018 season, Iowa has had two coaches in 40 years: Fry (20 years) and Ferentz (20 years). I don't want to count how many games they lost and titles they didn't win.
First and foremost, Iowa prides itself on consistency. They've found a model that works best for them and gives them hope.
And Nebraska prides itself on winning. They're moving to get back to the model that works best for them to meet expectations.
Iowa can take 7-5 and 8-4 in hope of a 9-3, 10-2 etc.
Nebraska looks at 9-3 or 10-2 and collectively says, "WTF!?"
Expectation vs. Hope.
Pretty simple.
Peace.
Best post ITT.Just wanted to post this. No reason really. Just wanted to.
2nd best post ITT. Hard to compete with the one above.I'm an Iowa fan chiming in.
Sorry I'm late to this thread - I was out drinkin'.
There is something to be said about history for both sides involved in this discussion.
For context:
Nebraska is tied with Notre Dame at 6th for all-time NCAA (FBS & FCS) football wins, behind Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Yale and Alabama.
Iowa is 61st, tied with Williams and Maryland.
Nebraska rightfully claims 5 national championships: 70, 71, 94, 95 & 97.
Iowa rightfully claims 1 national championship: 58.
Nebraska has won far, far more more consistently and on much bigger stages than Iowa has over time.
Facts are facts, so in my mind any fan who disparages or doubts the place that Nebraska holds in the college football world as a blue blood program is absolutely off their rocker. Nebraska has history, power, esteem and brand that Iowa simply doesn't match up to.
History is important.
Given the above, let's move on to the heart of the matter as I'll do my best to answer the OP's question re: why does Iowa put up with 8-4 Ferentz?
The answer is simple and obvious: Expectation vs. Hope.
I can understand why Iowa and Ferentz baffle Nebraska fans.
Nebraska is used to winning at a very, very high level and expects to get back to that.
Iowa is not used to winning at that high of a level and hopes to get there.
When you haven't done it (Iowa), you are going to hope for it more than expect it. You're less disappointed if it doesn't happen.
When you have done it (Nebraska), you are going to expect it more than hope for it. You're more disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Ferentz brings consistency to Iowa - we know what to expect in most years. It's not to Nebraska's standards, but it is to Iowa's.
Since Osborne retired in 1997, Nebraska has won a lot - but not to the level of what was expected. So, there was change and lots of it in order to build back to meeting expectations.
Solich (6 years: 58-19).
Callahan (4 years: 27-22).
Pelini (7 years: 66-27).
Riley (3 years: 19-19).
Frost (1 year: 4-8).
So, since the beginning of the 1998 season, Nebraska has won 174 games. And before the 1998 season, Nebraska had two coaches in 36 years: Osborne (25 years) and Devaney (11 years). I can't count how may games and titles they won.
And, since the beginning of the 1998 season (Fry's last), Iowa has won 155 games. And at the end of the 2018 season, Iowa has had two coaches in 40 years: Fry (20 years) and Ferentz (20 years). I don't want to count how many games they lost and titles they didn't win.
First and foremost, Iowa prides itself on consistency. They've found a model that works best for them and gives them hope.
And Nebraska prides itself on winning. They're moving to get back to the model that works best for them to meet expectations.
Iowa can take 7-5 and 8-4 in hope of a 9-3, 10-2 etc.
Nebraska looks at 9-3 or 10-2 and collectively says, "WTF!?"
Expectation vs. Hope.
Pretty simple.
Peace.
Winner, at least this wasn't a total waste of time. Good work.Just wanted to post this. No reason really. Just wanted to.
I'm an Iowa fan chiming in.
Sorry I'm late to this thread - I was out drinkin'.
There is something to be said about history for both sides involved in this discussion.
For context:
Nebraska is tied with Notre Dame at 6th for all-time NCAA (FBS & FCS) football wins, behind Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Yale and Alabama.
Iowa is 61st, tied with Williams and Maryland.
Nebraska rightfully claims 5 national championships: 70, 71, 94, 95 & 97.
Iowa rightfully claims 1 national championship: 58.
Nebraska has won far, far more more consistently and on much bigger stages than Iowa has over time.
Facts are facts, so in my mind any fan who disparages or doubts the place that Nebraska holds in the college football world as a blue blood program is absolutely off their rocker. Nebraska has history, power, esteem and brand that Iowa simply doesn't match up to.
History is important.
Given the above, let's move on to the heart of the matter as I'll do my best to answer the OP's question re: why does Iowa put up with 8-4 Ferentz?
The answer is simple and obvious: Expectation vs. Hope.
I can understand why Iowa and Ferentz baffle Nebraska fans.
Nebraska is used to winning at a very, very high level and expects to get back to that.
Iowa is not used to winning at that high of a level and hopes to get there.
When you haven't done it (Iowa), you are going to hope for it more than expect it. You're less disappointed if it doesn't happen.
When you have done it (Nebraska), you are going to expect it more than hope for it. You're more disappointed when it doesn't happen.
Ferentz brings consistency to Iowa - we know what to expect in most years. It's not to Nebraska's standards, but it is to Iowa's.
Since Osborne retired in 1997, Nebraska has won a lot - but not to the level of what was expected. So, there was change and lots of it in order to build back to meeting expectations.
Solich (6 years: 58-19).
Callahan (4 years: 27-22).
Pelini (7 years: 66-27).
Riley (3 years: 19-19).
Frost (1 year: 4-8).
So, since the beginning of the 1998 season, Nebraska has won 174 games. And before the 1998 season, Nebraska had two coaches in 36 years: Osborne (25 years) and Devaney (11 years). I can't count how may games and titles they won.
And, since the beginning of the 1998 season (Fry's last), Iowa has won 155 games. And at the end of the 2018 season, Iowa has had two coaches in 40 years: Fry (20 years) and Ferentz (20 years). I don't want to count how many games they lost and titles they didn't win.
First and foremost, Iowa prides itself on consistency. They've found a model that works best for them and gives them hope.
And Nebraska prides itself on winning. They're moving to get back to the model that works best for them to meet expectations.
Iowa can take 7-5 and 8-4 in hope of a 9-3, 10-2 etc.
Nebraska looks at 9-3 or 10-2 and collectively says, "WTF!?"
Expectation vs. Hope.
Pretty simple.
Peace.
I’ll give credit were it’s due and this is definitely the best most quality post I seen per an Iowa fan when talking Huskers and/vs Iowa. I can see and agree on almost all of that. Callahan and Riley absolutely screw the pooch as head coaches for us. They gave us some of the worst records we have had in years. Frost has a 4-8 start for the Huskers and anyone who doesn’t look into it would say that’s a huge fail too. 4-8 is in no way a good thing or anything poud your chest about but if you actually look at this season and break it down like the experts are doing that are saying we (Huskers) are a top 25 team for next season.
We start off 0-6 and didn’t look good. Then Frost found what works and didn’t work and got the ship turned and we finished 4-2 and had a solid final 6 games (which everyone or anyone with a brain or knows football could see “Frost has these guys going now”) with a 5-6 point lose to OSUcks Buckeyes and a it took Iowa a last second field goal to beat us at Iowa. That’s a solid mid season turn around. We won’t see another 4-8 again, not with the talent Frost is bringing in and being a great developer himself. Thanks for the info and share.
2nd best post ITT. Hard to compete with the one above.
I do my best to bring quality content to the board.Thanks, and I'll gladly take second place to the jiggle pic. Good lord.
I do my best to bring quality content to the board.
do you really NEED a reason to post this.....uh...no!Just wanted to post this. No reason really. Just wanted to.
Thanks for the kind words.
I'll take your points on Callahan and Riley and state it a different way:
Even with the train wrecks that Callahan and Riley proved out to be (46-41), Nebraska still won 19 more games from 98 on than Iowa did.
Let that sink in.
I recognize good football when I see it, and I respect good programs when I see them.
Iowa will always do it's best to put a knot on your head, as we all know - yet there is a lot to look forward to out west of our fair state.
I'm probably going to be seen as a can short of a six pack, but I WANT Nebraska to be good - same as I WANT Iowa State to be good. Both are on our schedule and we need to compete with the best if we want our hopes realized in moving to the next level.
I don't like games that are pushovers, and the rewards that come from winning over good teams far outweigh the brief satisfaction and chest thumping that comes from an all-too-easy victory vs. a mismatched opponent, particularly in this day of the CFP.
No doubt Nebraska is going to rise, which they showed in the second half of the season and particularly @ Kinnick this year. And the rest of the West is going to have to rise as well.
I never fear an opponent. But always respect them.
Peace
Just wanted to post this. No reason really. Just wanted to.
1. That's a lot of talent.
2. I'm glad I don't have daughters.
Well, hate to lengthen this, but as a Northwestern fan I have to agree with this guy that I want all the teams in our division to improve (except maybe the Illini). A lot of guys on my own board would think I'm nuts for saying that, but wins are more satisfying to me when they're against good competition. That, and I'm getting damned tired of the smugness of Eastern Division fans. We need to start putting some wood to them. The "weak" West winning seven out of eight bowl games the past two years is a good start.
It's a good point that DB makes. What Nebraska is trying to do, is pretty much completely at odds to how Iowa and Wisconsin play. So... Nebraska will have to be physical in addition to fast in order to be consistently successful against those teams, and Iowa and Wisconsin may have to up their athleticism and offensive philosophy to keep up with Nebraska. Should be good for all as it applies to being competitive with the east teams. In theory at least!