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Going into Oklahoma hopefully we get some players back otherwise our offense will be moving nowhere this upcoming game. Our 2-5 receiving options are hurt or banged up. Any updates?

Martin
Manning
Betts
Allen
Vokolek
 
Going into Oklahoma hopefully we get some players back otherwise our offense will be moving nowhere this upcoming game. Our 2-5 receiving options are hurt or banged up. Any updates?

Martin
Manning
Betts
Allen
Vokolek
If true, Nebraska has 0 chance of winning.
 
Betts and Allen should be able to play..
Oliver Martin is a mystery and the same song and dance with Omar..
 
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we wont get updates until the game. That is Scott's MO
Rightly so. No need to give OU a heads up on injuries. Not sure it matters a bunch but it might make OU spend time preparing DBs and linebackers for individual tendencies for a guy or two who don't actually play. I'm concerned the most about our TE situation. Allen looked like a concussion.
 
Frost just said none have been ruled out for this week.

A little vague, but at least there’s a chance?
The best "injury story" I've ever heard involved Tom and one of his starters. An acquaintance of mine from college was the orthopedic surgeon for the team. We had a key starter hurt his neck in a game and actually fractured a vertebrae. After the surgeon told Tom that the kid had a fractured cervical vertebrae Tom asked, "so can he play Saturday?".EekLaughing For you laymen, that's a broken neck bone.
 
The best "injury story" I've ever heard involved Tom and one of his starters. An acquaintance of mine from college was the orthopedic surgeon for the team. We had a key starter hurt his neck in a game and actually fractured a vertebrae. After the surgeon told Tom that the kid had a fractured cervical vertebrae Tom asked, "so can he play Saturday?".EekLaughing For you laymen, that's a broken neck bone.
I mean- if Brook can play with a collapsed lung, what’s a little neck fracture?
 
Anyone know if Fidone will get a shot at playing in the final 4 games this year? Or is it better to let the ACL strengthen?
 
You will note that Leiwer's number of snaps relative to some other starters dropped this past Saturday as did his touches. Thank God we have some walk ons to fill holes as scholarship guys get booboos and can't play.
I usually agree with you, but walkon receivers aren’t going to help win to many big 10 games
 
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I usually agree with you, but walkon receivers aren’t going to help win to many big 10 games
Oliver Martin initially walked on. He's probably our best and most talented WR. He's one of the fastest guys on the team. We play 6-8 WRs in any game. Having one walkon on the field at any given time is not going to hurt our chances of winning games especially if he's on the field primarily as a blocker. Leiwer has been called our best blocking WR. He's a possession receiver who does everything right. Geezus I don't get the hate for Leiwer. It's ludicrous.
 
It is like porn, you know it when you see it


Possession receiver, or a receiver who can be covered by a LB, not a playmaker.
RB who can't break a long run, or can get caught from behind by a DL,
not a playmaker
Leiwer's snaps and targets have fallen as other guys have gotten up to speed at their position. We've got one scholarship WR who hasn't played much because he's still not 100% after having shoulder surgery right before fall camp. I don't know who is supposed to take Leiwer's snaps that we can count on to make the blocks they want made on running plays. You don't need a f'n burner to do that.
 
Oliver Martin initially walked on. He's probably our best and most talented WR. He's one of the fastest guys on the team. We play 6-8 WRs in any game. Having one walkon on the field at any given time is not going to hurt our chances of winning games especially if he's on the field primarily as a blocker. Leiwer has been called our best blocking WR. He's a possession receiver who does everything right. Geezus I don't get the hate for Leiwer. It's ludicrous.
I don’t hate leiwer I just feel times have changed so much that in your skilled position players you need top athletes I’m sure he bust his ass in practice but that doesn’t translate to being productive on game day
 
I don’t hate leiwer I just feel times have changed so much that in your skilled position players you need top athletes I’m sure he bust his ass in practice but that doesn’t translate to being productive on game day
But he has been productive on game day. First downs are important. Leiwer's problem hasn't been that he isn't fast enough or that he can't make big plays. His problem is that our QB at times can't hit open receivers. Leiwer playing is by FAR the least of our offensive worries.
 
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But he has been productive on game day. First downs are important. Leiwer's problem hasn't been that he isn't fast enough or that he can't make big plays. His problem is that our QB at times can't hit open receivers. Leiwer playing is by FAR the least of our offensive worries.
well on the last "overthrow" Leiwer stopped his route. They called it out on Big Red Wrapup. Martinez threw where he SHOULD have been, and most of our other receivers would have been.
 
But he has been productive on game day. First downs are important. Leiwer's problem hasn't been that he isn't fast enough or that he can't make big plays. His problem is that our QB at times can't hit open receivers. Leiwer playing is by FAR the least of our offensive worries.
Leiwer playing at all is a symptom of the disease. I am not all that down on him, he is a non factor for the most part. His 2 catches for 13 yards isn't why we are not good.

The issue is that Frost wants to run a talent based offense with less talented players. If you play an offensive system like Iowa or Wisconsin, you can get away with less talented players, who work hard. With an offense that is most successful with fast WR and fast RB working in space, having the hard working, less talented players on the field just make your offense look slow and is much easier to defend. Frost has a soft spot for small town Nebraska kids and kids that are underdogs, he likes them better than some of the others and they are getting opportunities to play. In some cases, it is a detriment to the team's success.


JMHO
 
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well on the last "overthrow" Leiwer stopped his route. They called it out on Big Red Wrapup. Martinez threw where he SHOULD have been, and most of our other receivers would have been.
I didn't see that. I didn't get to watch the second half of the game. Miscommunications happen between receivers and QBs. We have options I believe in our routes. It's possible that he settled in an open area and Martinez thought he would continue his route. At least he isn't looking at the sidelines trying get help presnap with where to run......Betts, Manning cough cough.
 
Leiwer playing at all is a symptom of the disease. I am not all that down on him, he is a non factor for the most part. His 2 catches for 13 yards isn't why we are not good.

The issue is that Frost wants to run a talent based offense with less talented players. If you play an offensive system like Iowa or Wisconsin, you can get away with less talented players, who work hard. With an offense that is most successful with fast WR and fast RB working in space, having the hard working, less talented players on the field just make your offense look slow and is much easier to defend. Frost has a soft spot for small town Nebraska kids and kids that are underdogs, he likes them better than some of the others and they are getting opportunities to play. In some cases, it is a detriment to the team's success.


JMHO
I don't believe that he want's to "run a talent based offense with less talented players". At some point a kid has to demonstrate in practice that he knows and can execute the plays. There's only so many times in the huddle where you can just tell a kid "go deep".
 
The other thing that is missing, again in my opinion, is the RB receiving game. Look back at how Frost used Killins at UCF, Freeman and Byron Marshall at Oregon.

Did well with MW when he was here in that department. Morrison seems to be the only guy that could take that to next level. Ervin not too bad receiving
 
I've got a story about Brook's collapsed lung too but I probably shouldn't share that one. Tough kid. Could have died then if not for a very smart Dr. who evaluated him.
It was good for him to take over for Turman for the second half of that K-State game. Just the threat of Berringer throwing the ball helped open the offense, which completely stagnated after Turman "engineered" that 28-yard touchdown drive in the first quarter: Phillips for 7, Phillips for 8, Phillips for 6, Phillips for 3, Phillips for 1, Phillips for 3.

That was the extent of the Nebraska offense without Brook. We led 7-6 at half, and we shut out KSU in the second half, but without the threat of anything aside from Phillips, we weren't likely to score again, and with better field position abetted by an ineffective QB for NU, K-State could easily have scored again to win.

Turman didn't lose the game in the first half, but he might have in the second half had we continued to go with him. Thank goodness Brook was ready to roll.
 
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