..in all seriousness, it's go time on my home restoration and I have a ? from those of you in the construct or restoration biz plz

[litespeedhuskerfan]

..like title says...fast forward 4+ months to now, from when my neighbor used my home for a neighborhood bonfire, the major reconstruct is completed and painters set to roll in...and i have a ? about the best primer to use on walls and floors and ceilings, that were not replaced....no offense, not looking for opinions, but cold hard experience with this, if anyone has any? my general contractor has been great about letting me kinda run the show and pick materials and sublet vendors and he asked if i have a preference on the primer they are going to use to seal the walls, floors, and ceiling. obviously cost is no object on this part and i am wondering if anyone has used something in the past that worked great for them? if so, what did ya'll use to seal in the smoke smell and would you use it again?

 

[Laner2]

My suggestion based on sealing in nicotine odor. This product works well for that as well as smoke odor. One of the most recommended products out there for what you're looking for.

Smoke Damage Painting: Get the Primer We Use (#2 of 3) – Brad the...

After cleaning, you must seal and you may be easily fooled by water-based or 'synthetic shellac' primers. Read on.

www.bradthepainter.com

TIP: if you have batt insulation in your home, be a prick and MAKE SURE IT'S SEALED. That means not just along the seams but along the bottom and top plates AND around any electric boxes or other breaks in the vapor barrier. Failure to do these will result in odor seepage into your finished living space.

 

[drubendall]

The correct answer is Zinsser BIN white shellac. Zinsser is far superior to Kilz.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

My suggestion based on sealing in nicotine odor. This product works well for that as well as smoke odor. One of the most recommended products out there for what you're looking for.

Smoke Damage Painting: Get the Primer We Use (#2 of 3) – Brad the...

After cleaning, you must seal and you may be easily fooled by water-based or 'synthetic shellac' primers. Read on.

www.bradthepainter.com

TIP: if you have batt insulation in your home, be a prick and MAKE SURE IT'S SEALED. That means not just along the seams but along the bottom and top plates AND around any electric boxes or other breaks in the vapor barrier. Failure to do these will result in odor seepage into your finished living space.

I have spent an embarrassing amount of time reading that guys articles and was headed that direction, but not sure I am following the BAT insulation sealing thang...how do I seal that if the wall or ceiling it is behind wasn't removed or replaced???

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

OK I think this is what everyone is talking about...looks like they make a few that look similar...but this appears to be the fave for this kind of thing?

 

[Laner2]

I have spent an embarrassing amount of time reading that guys articles and was headed that direction, but not sure I am following the BAT insulation sealing thang...how do I seal that if the wall or ceiling it is behind wasn't removed or replaced???

I should have been clearer. For those areas of your interior that were damaged and needed new drywall, my advice applies. For those areas where the drywall WAS NOT replaced, take off the outlet covers on the walls and use Tyvek tape or something similar to minimize smoke odor diffusion via the outlet boxes. If the drywall is already applied, go with the BIN Shellac Primer. There may still be odor diffusion along the top and bottom plates but my guess it'll be minimal. Trite to say this, but in that case you try to control what you can control.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

I should have been clearer. For those areas of your interior that were damaged and needed new drywall, my advice applies. For those areas where the drywall WAS NOT replaced, take off the outlet covers on the walls and use Tyvek tape or something similar to minimize smoke odor diffusion via the outlet boxes. If the drywall is already applied, go with the BIN Shellac Primer. There may still be odor diffusion along the top and bottom plates but my guess it'll be minimal. Trite to say this, but in that case you try to control what you can control.

appreciate it dude. thank you!!!

 

[Laner2]

The correct answer is Zinsser BIN white shellac. Zinsser is far superior to Kilz.

I like KILZ for some stuff, but NO variety of Kilz can stop resin from coming through wood. I know that from personal experience. On the other hand, BIN oil-based primer seems to have done the trick.

Oh, and FREE Jae, Tampa, and my other brothers from different mothers! I'll throw their bail money and vouch for their good behavior.

 

[PvilleHuskerTim]

..like title says...fast forward 4+ months to now, from when my neighbor used my home for a neighborhood bonfire, the major reconstruct is completed and painters set to roll in...and i have a ? about the best primer to use on walls and floors and ceilings, that were not replaced....no offense, not looking for opinions, but cold hard experience with this, if anyone has any? my general contractor has been great about letting me kinda run the show and pick materials and sublet vendors and he asked if i have a preference on the primer they are going to use to seal the walls, floors, and ceiling. obviously cost is no object on this part and i am wondering if anyone has used something in the past that worked great for them? if so, what did ya'll use to seal in the smoke smell and would you use it again?

Not a construction dude, so no opinion on that. I just want you to post the video of you using a black light before covering it all up.

 

[Bugeater]

..like title says...fast forward 4+ months to now, from when my neighbor used my home for a neighborhood bonfire, the major reconstruct is completed and painters set to roll in...and i have a ? about the best primer to use on walls and floors and ceilings, that were not replaced....no offense, not looking for opinions, but cold hard experience with this, if anyone has any? my general contractor has been great about letting me kinda run the show and pick materials and sublet vendors and he asked if i have a preference on the primer they are going to use to seal the walls, floors, and ceiling. obviously cost is no object on this part and i am wondering if anyone has used something in the past that worked great for them? if so, what did ya'll use to seal in the smoke smell and would you use it again?

Did you consult Coach Prime about that primer?

 

[huskerfan66]

Zinsser all the way. My go to for most anything. Worth the little extra it costs

 

[ADV1]

The correct answer is Zinsser BIN white shellac. Zinsser is far superior to Kilz.

This! When I owned my home repair business in Lincoln this is all we would use! We treated severely smoke stained walls from smokers to resealing walls after mold abatement to walls where there were paint issues we were trying to cover. It's Great and is what I would start with for sure

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

You guys rule!!!! thanks

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

OK I have one more ? pls...

How many coats of primer have you guys applied for this kind of thang??/ Of course ins company only wants to pay for one and they swear its enough....

 

[GaRed]

OK I think this is what everyone is talking about...looks like they make a few that look similar...but this appears to be the fave for this kind of thing?

I used this and kilz in the commercial restoration for years.

 

[mel mains]

OK I think this is what everyone is talking about...looks like they make a few that look similar...but this appears to be the fave for this kind of thing?

Great product. Used it many times. Know a few of their execs too so I get it cheap. Very bouncy trucks.

 

[DerHusker]

OK I have one more ? pls...

How many coats of primer have you guys applied for this kind of thang??/ Of course ins company only wants to pay for one and they swear its enough....

Not an expert but if the one coat of primer is properly applied it it should be fine for the top coat.

I second @Laner2 's suggestion regarding sealing outlet boxes and will add any other wall penetrations such as can lights and AC vents.

If your can light are not the sealed type you may want to replace them or fine another way to seal the actual light fixture. (Not just around the opening)

My $.02

 

[GaRed]

OK I have one more ? pls...

How many coats of primer have you guys applied for this kind of thang??/ Of course ins company only wants to pay for one and they swear its enough....

That depends on how bad the damage is . On heavy visible smoke and or burnt areas it requires more than one coat. Always use manufacturer's instructions as a guide. I never fooled around with one coat if I had a doubt. You start topcoating and it bleeds through , your pissed.

 

[Sodakred]

..like title says...fast forward 4+ months to now, from when my neighbor used my home for a neighborhood bonfire, the major reconstruct is completed and painters set to roll in...and i have a ? about the best primer to use on walls and floors and ceilings, that were not replaced....no offense, not looking for opinions, but cold hard experience with this, if anyone has any? my general contractor has been great about letting me kinda run the show and pick materials and sublet vendors and he asked if i have a preference on the primer they are going to use to seal the walls, floors, and ceiling. obviously cost is no object on this part and i am wondering if anyone has used something in the past that worked great for them? if so, what did ya'll use to seal in the smoke smell and would you use it again?

Cliffs Notes summary of what happened. Obviously I missed your post(s) about it.

 

[ADV1]

That depends on how bad the damage is . On heavy visible smoke and or burnt areas it requires more than one coat. Always use manufacturer's instructions as a guide. I never fooled around with one coat if I had a doubt. You start topcoating and it bleeds through , your pissed.

^^^This... on the Heavy Smokers house where the white walls had turned brown from cigarette smoke I think we did 2-3 coats in the heavier areas... like said above, it's a judgement call per wall on what it'll take