In 2018, Kirk Ferentz was the Worst Coach in the Power 5

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  1. Cornicator

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    Hey, I get it, you're probably thinking this is just another Nebraska fan trying to troll in Iowa fans. That's not the case. Kirk Ferentz's performance in 2018 was easily his worst season ever at Iowa, and I will argue the worst in all of the Power 5.

    The Big Ten West was terrible, and Iowa potentially 5 or 6 FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS STARTING, and 10 LIKELY FUTURE NFL Draft picks starting in their starting 22. Think about that for a moment. Nebraska, Minnesota, Illinois and Purdue haven't had 10 NFL players combined over the last two NFL drafts.

    Here are the draftees from 2019:

    TJ Hockenson - 1st Round
    Noah Fant - 1st Round
    Anthony Nelson - 4th Round
    Amani Hooker - 4th Round


    Ok, well that's 4 guys... Two tight ends, a Defensive End, and a Safety.

    But lets look at 2020 likely draft eligible players:

    DE AJ Espensa - Expected 1st Round
    QB Nate Stanley - projected 1st Round to 3rd Round
    OT - Alaric Jackson - Projected 1st Round
    OT - Tristan Wirfs - projected Round 1 to 2
    DT - Cedrick Lattimore - projected 3rd to 4th Round
    DE Chauncey Golston - will leave early 3rd to 4th round




    In a year when a dreadful Northwestern Team won the Big Ten West let's look at Iowa's conference season:

    Crossover Games: (No Ohio State or Michigan)

    They play at a bad Indiana team. - Easy Win
    They draw clustereff team in Maryland to Kinnick - Easy Win
    Play at a marginal Penn State team (arguably the 4th best team from the East Division) - Loss, but Iowa could've easily sustained this loss and still won the West.

    Iowa gets Wisconsin and Northwestern at Home.

    Iowa loses to the worst Wisconsin team of the last 20 years in Kinnick
    Iowa allows 200 yards rushing to a Northwestern team that couldn't run on anyone all season. Ferentz completely outschemed and outcoached by a vastly inferior team in Kinnick.
    Iowa loses at a 6-6 Purdue team which still has NO depth after Brohm inherited a shitty roster. Brohm completely outschemes and outcoaches Ferentz.

    Iowa draws road games at Illinois and Minnesota, the two worst teams in the West. They then get to play one of the worst Nebraska teams of all time, at home. Scott Frost completely outschemes and outcoaches Ferentz with only one Scholarship Receiver healthy for the game. But Iowa wins on a last second field goal to avoid Overtime.

    Iowa NOT going 12-1 and easily winning the Big Ten West is an indictiment on Kirk Ferentz, and he seriously was the absolute worst coach in the Conference last season.
     
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    So, are you trolling Iowa fans? :D
     
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    No way Nate Stanley is a late 1 or 2 round pick..

    Just saying.
     
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    Didn’t Nebraska ‘pass’ on Jackson and take Farniok instead? When we probably could have taken both? Or am I misremembering?
     
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    Most of the country knows Ferenez is an average coach. Hell Bo at least beat teams he should beat most of the time. So one could make the argument Bo is even better. I would bet there are less than 10 schools in p5 that would have kept Ferenz as long as he has been at Iowa. They would have fired him long ago.
     
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    No. He picked Iowa over Nebraska. He knew whay he was doing. Cav and Riley were not good for his development.
     
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    So, trying to make sense out of all of this, these are my conclusions based on the data that admittedly "may" be a bit skewed..
    1. Iowa must of recruited fairly well to have all those draft picks.
    2. Iowa must develop their talent well (see #1).
    3. Kirk is not a good game day coach.
    4. Their teams were hurt by injuries and one dimensional. (I have no clue, I just needed a 4th point.)
     
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    I’m a Kirk Ferentz doubter but Ionly blame one loss on the coaching staff and that was NW.

    Penn State was easily the worst performance Stanley has had. He had the thumb issue and was absolutely atrocious. There was a play action to Hockenson where he didn’t have a player around him for 20 yards. Stanley missed him by a lot. 1st and goal at the two and he made a freshman mistake on a WTF play. But that loss is on Stanley.

    Wisconsin was ridiculously on the players as well. Fumbled a punt return right before half that would have given Iowa the ball in Wisconsin territory. A punted ball was rolling dead inside Wisconsin’s 5 and a blocker hit it with his foot. Kirk and Brian actually went for the throat with the lead late and didn’t sit on the ball. Stanley missed a wide open WR that could have iced it.

    Purdue had Iowa starting a true freshman walk on DB because of injuries. You could imagine how well he did against Purdue’s offense. Plus an iffy PI call that put Purdue in FG range for the game winner.

    It’s probably the first time I haven’t blamed the coaching staff for missing out on a great season.
     
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    Agreed. Hasn’t only one Big Ten QB been drafted in the first round in like a decade? Stanley is waaaaaay too inconsistent to get drafted that high. If he gets drafted in the top 3 rounds, Iowa wins the west.
     
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    I love it, you broke it down way better then I ever could. And you just mentioned the guys being drafted...you don’t even count for the guys that signed undrafted... It’s basically what I kept saying but never had the patients enough to break it down like that. Anyone who truly looks at it the way you just explained it, could see you nailed it on the head. DEAD ON.

    I kept pointing out that the Huskers with freshman and sophomores all over the place, in Frosts first year after taking over an absolute disaster for a team that Mike Riley put together...Iowa has the team with that talent...coaches that have been in place for years to 20 plus years and Frost about beats them??? Kirk literally had to pull off a last second field goal to keep it from going over time... AGAIN...in Frost year 1, with an extremely young team??? Yep...you nailed it. Then Iowa gives Kirk Ferentz a raise??? Wow!?!?

    Sorry, but Frost came that close in year one while Martinez was a true freshman that didn’t play a down of football his senior year...can you imagine how year 2 will be??? No way the Huskers lose this year...not happening.
     
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    Wow, talk about underachieving Kirk is the biggest con in Iowa
     
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    It’s odd. Iowa’s staff is obviously good at developing players, but they don’t seem to get a lot of results out of it. Very good at one aspect of coaching, but clearly missing something.
     
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    Yep I have tried to explain this all to Iowa fans. They just don't get it or don't want to get it. Bo who was an average coach was 3-1 on them. Smilin Mike comes is, arguably one of the worst coaches in Neb history and Iowa is finally able to take advantage and get 3 blow out wins. Frost comes in YEAR 1, with basically no draftable NFL talent on the team, into their house and only loses by 3. I get it am not celebrating a loss by any means. Im looking at the reality of the situation. Neb had a lot going against us. Iowa could have and probably should have beat us by 3 TDs. How Iowa thinks they can compete going forward is beyond me.
     
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    Agree, no way he is a round 1-3 draft pick.
     
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    Your right....the Hawks have no chance of winning in Lincoln in year 2 of Frost. I figure you have the edge with your TE turned starting center.
     
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    Why don't you sit this one out, guy.
     
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    You do realize last years game was literally a yard from being 35-13 going to the 4th quarter right. I'll give Nebraska credit for converting 4 fourth downs and a fake punt in their own endzone just to tie the game.
     
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    I wouldn't go to the point of saying no way. But I give it less than 25% chance. Calling it now, Neb will be a 7-10 fav for that game min.
     
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    Does Iowa live in the could have, should have, would have a lot? Is that how they get through the mediocrity of Iowa football?

    " If we could have just won 4 more game, got into the playoffs, and won 2 more we would be national champions. Damn it we were so close"
     
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    I recognize you, great to hear from you woulda, coulda, shoulda Iowa fan.

    Any 2 star that wants to make it to the NFL should go to Iowa. Iowa runs a system that’s compatible with the NFL, but that system is unlikely to win Iowa a B1G championship, due to the fact that Iowa lacks elite skill position players. KF is trusted by NFL execs to develop quality OL, DL and more recently TEs. KF gets to 8 wins and sends a few players to the NFL and everyone’s happy, especially KF, all the way to the bank. Iowa is the easiest, least stressful coaching job in the B1G. o_O
     
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    Golden Nugget has the game as a pick ‘em. You’re losing great value if you don’t put a crap ton of money on Nebraska right now.
     
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    “If Mike Riley wasn’t coach, Iowa wouldn’t be on this win streak”. Come on man, we all play that game.
     
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    True, you’ve been playing that game for twenty years. Lucky for you and KF, nice guy mike was hired. Dang, KF is one win away from a winning record against Nebraska.
     
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    Reaching the cup final comes as a big reward for Valencia FC fans, at the end of a season that has been a rough ride. It has ended a lot better than might have been expected after they won just ONE of their first eleven league games and crashed out of the Champions League in the group stage, finishing behind Juventus and Manchester United. They dropped into the Europa League and marched past Celtic, Krasnodar and neighbors Villarreal before a hefty 7-3 loss to Arsenal in the semi-final. Meanwhile in the league, a 12-match unbeaten spell saw them slowly edge up the table and right at the end managed to squeeze in ahead of Getafe and Sevilla and grab the fourth and final Champions League berth on the last day!

     
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    Tell us about your starting center and his background/experience.
     
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    Oh the irony. Come on man? You just babbled on with 3 paragraphs of bs excuses. You literally are the king.

    Are you sure it wasn't the shoes?
     
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    You do realize you had to kick a last second field goal to win the game don't you?
     
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    Redshirt Junior who has starting experience at the guard spot. Played every snap against Nebraska last year. The development of a flip from the DL could change things. Tyler Linderbaum player in the army all American game at DL but slid over to the offensive side and has impressed at center.
     
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    “Senior” is the key word. None of those QBs are impressive except maybe Montez.
     
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    So a converted DL, got it, thanks. Iowa couldn’t do better than 9 wins with a cake schedule last season, I don’t see KF leading iowa to greater than 8-9 this upcoming season.
     
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    I’ll take a dreadful 9 wins this year please if it gets us to Indy.
    That Northwestern defense wasn’t all bad holding an improving NU team to 31 points last year. They were
    41st in scoring defense (23.2) Nebraska was 88th (31.3) Big difference there
    They certainly didn’t look dreadful taking OSU into the second half down by 10 after the 3rd quarter
     
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    And ...from our point of view, we ran out of time...
     
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    indubitably
     
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    Can confirm.

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    You think every player on Iowa is a future NFL starter.
     
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    Just shows it’s going to be a down year for Senior QB entering the draft with the exception of Justin Herbert...

    Nothing more.
     
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