For sure. That's why I would like to hear who the proven winners, that could actually end up here are.
IF Frost is our next coach
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Here's my question on Frost. How much time does the NU fan base give him? Also, what if after year 3-4 we are no better off? Will NU fans loyalty to the former QB run so deep they let him hang around even if he's underperforming? Think Darin Erstad Syndrome...
No idea. I just hope our administration and/or boosters are willing to pay ridiculous money if we can land a proven winner. It's time to start playing the long game with NU football again.
I will probably take some heat for lowering expectations but for me the program needs to get to a place where we are treading water at 7-9 wins per year - you then have a foundation in place where when you hit on a recruiting class or two and get some breaks you jump into the 11-12 wins category - on occasion.
Maybe you aren't going to be favored against the Ohio State's of the world but those games should at least cause a bit of apprehension to a top 5-10 team.
If you get to where Iowa is - without the lows - over 5 or so years then the next step is to get back into the top 10 top 20 on a somewhat consistent basis
7-9 wins per year and not perpetually surrendering to the top teams right out of the gate builds enough hope that "next year" is going to be special
Maybe you aren't going to be favored against the Ohio State's of the world but those games should at least cause a bit of apprehension to a top 5-10 team.
If you get to where Iowa is - without the lows - over 5 or so years then the next step is to get back into the top 10 top 20 on a somewhat consistent basis
7-9 wins per year and not perpetually surrendering to the top teams right out of the gate builds enough hope that "next year" is going to be special
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No doubt. And if we are smart we will build it around defense. Look at WI and Michigan. Get the floor established with a solid defense and then try and build the elite offense.
Understood. I took all kinds of heat on this topic last week. Which is just fine. Now people are starting to come around...
I've honestly lost track of where everyone stands on things. I'm not around here enough to remember.
Mullen has been at Mississippi State since 2009. He’s gone:
5-7
9-4
7-6
8-5
7-6
10-3
9-4
6-7
Not crazy impressive on the surface. But he’s coached in the hay day of the SEC, when his onstage rival has been cheating their ass off and had success. Especially since they were 38-69 the 7 previous years he was there. The dude has been really impressive.
We have become a very spoiled fan base because of the success of Devaney and Osborne over 4-5 decades... And we will have to learn some patience in this new era of College Football with the next hire..
Who ever the next Head Coach is he is going to have his hand full with next years schedule but getting our butts kicked like we have lately is inexcusable and knowing from the get go that this decision Eichort made to hire Riley has made this program a laughing stock of College Football..
Who ever the next Head Coach is he is going to have his hand full with next years schedule but getting our butts kicked like we have lately is inexcusable and knowing from the get go that this decision Eichort made to hire Riley has made this program a laughing stock of College Football..
So if he is so impressive why havent the other big boy schools gone after him there have been plenty of opportunities. He is making 4.25 mill right now.
Either A. Other big boy schools are not as high on him as u are.
Or B. He doesnt want to leave
Or C. A combo of both.
The fact he is already making over 4 mill a year would make it hard to get him to make it worth his or our while. We would have to seriously overpay him to be here. I am not sure that is a great choice.
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I dont think patience is an issue. We gave Frankie 6 years, Bo 7 and Callahan 4 years and possibly RIley 3.
All the teams in our conference have had multiple coaches they had let go over the years that got three years or less and this has been going on since the 1940's so it is nothing new.
Time is not the issue, but timing may be and just hiring the "right" coach.
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He does not get more than anyone else. Just because he played here does not mean we don't know exactly what he can do after 2 years
He is playing the level of competition that the conference he is in provides, with the same level of players that everyone else has in the conference. It is not like he is tOSU with tOSU players playing in t \he Sun Belt conference. So your point is a non starter.
He took a team that went 0-12 to 6 wins his first year, and has 5 wins this year and ranked in the top 25. I dont see where you post has much merit.
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Why the change of tune? Are you that worried he is gonna fail? He damn well better get 9 wins minimum off the bat. He did flip an 0-12 team to .500 in 1 year. He can do it, and I believe he can. No need to worry and start making excuses. No excuses here.
What if it's not Frost and someone that's a very excitable hire that everyone is onboard with?
If we're getting rolled on national tv after 3 years...yes he's got to go. If we're fighting,competitive, and recruiting going well, not sure
Some X/O people I respect keep dropping the name Dino Babers. Interesting for sure.
@coachDubs Thoughts on that?
@coachDubs Thoughts on that?
What are you talking about? No change of tune at all. I've said all along he will need time.
Nice try.
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Good question was wondering that myself.
I'd say no but Gebbia might be our best option.
Frost will definitely be a hot commodity here very soon so why the hell would NU not go after him? I believe it's a perfect fit and the time is now! I was all Riled up a few months ago but it's painfully obvious he just doesn't fit in here at Nebraska. Too bad.
9-11 in B10 Tourney and 1-4 in NCAA Tourney going into Year 7...
Gebbia and POB would both do well. The QB run game isn't a huge part of his offense, just to keep people honest and stress the D. Milton at UCF isn't a great runner Hubert at Oregon isn't either.
Soooo you're talking 5 years to get over Iowa and we've given Riley 2.5 years.???? Okayyyyyy
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Soooo you're talking 5 years to get Iowa is over 5 years and we've given Riley 2.5 years.???? Okayyyyyy
Nope. Not even close to what he is saying.
Jesus...
We should just hire Frost and get this over with. If we don't hire him half the fan base is going to lose their shit every time there is bad play on the field; they simply won't get behind a non-Frost hire.
If Frost has success everyone is happy. If he fails we can finally move on from this "Nebraska guy" bullshit.
If Frost has success everyone is happy. If he fails we can finally move on from this "Nebraska guy" bullshit.
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Because he played here or in General? Do just the guys that played here get time? This is a legit question. If that is the case, that's fine. We can't keep running off guys when their recruits from a short cycle are only Red shirt Sophomores.
yep. 4 star JC transfer. Plus POB ran for quite a few yards in high school. No excuses.
I will coach the Huskers for $1000 per game to cover expenses.
and:
1. 50 grand for a win over a teir 3 school (top 100)
2. 75 grand for a win over a teir 2 school (top 50)
3. 100 grand for a win over a teir 1 school (top 20)
unlimited hunting on unl property
a red marauder truck and unlimited fuel
and assistant coaches of past NU , airforce, or monster girls teams.
and 20 grand for every 500 yard rushing game.
any buy out would be 100 grand, and free from any state, or douglas county tax for life.
If Frost or anyone else comes here next year they won't be starting with a team that had a 9-4 record the year before. They might be starting with a team that won 5 games. If Riley has recruited as well as some people have said he has then a new coach might not have problems winning 9 games their 1st year. The schedule next year however plays into that.
Riley did win 9 games last year and probably should have won at least 8 his 1st year.
Soooo you're talking 5 years to get Iowa is over 5 years and we've given Riley 2.5 years.???? Okayyyyyy
yes I wrote the program needs to be treading water as opposed to being at the bottom of the pool, dead, waiting for the bacteria in the gut to produce enough gaseous waste for the corpse to float to the top
Riley can still get to 7 wins - I don't see that happening
If you need to see every inch of the Titanic submerged to conclude that it is going to sink then fine
"The Captain and crew need more time!! They haven't even been given the opportunity to complete one voyage!"
I think deep in our hearts every NU fan expected us to get blasted by OSU. I didn't expect our D to lay down like it did. I don't know what the hell Diaco was trying to do. That said, last night doesn't change how I feel about our chances to win some games going forward. We'll see.yes I wrote the program needs to be treading water as opposed to being at the bottom of the pool, dead, waiting for the bacteria in the gut to produce enough gaseous waste for the corpse to float to the top
Riley can still get to 7 wins - I don't see that happening
If you need to see every inch of the Titanic submerged to conclude that it is going to sink then fine
"The Captain and crew need more time!! They haven't even been given the opportunity to complete one voyage!"
