He came out of a good high school program and his dad played in the league. He had a big time S&C program for a high schooler and he was already fairly well maxed out when he got to Lincoln. What you saw as a freshman at NU was about all he was going to be physically at NU IMO. Just the way it is. IF he could just line up and go straight ahead at his guy, he would probably hold his own. When he has to move his feet he struggles.
Are we better with farniok at center and jurgens at guard?
He did take I think the best JC center this past year as a walk on right? Haven't seen him. The problem is that Frost has to have a really athletic center for his scheme to work. Jurgens a converted TE fits that to a tee....if he can just snap the damned ball. He's smart and athletic but it appears he gets too juiced up and just has mental lapses on his snaps.
Farniok isn't really athletic enough for what Frost wants at center and neither is his little brother. I won't be surpised to see Will transfer after this year. He might get a shot if we would lose Jurgens again to an injury longer term.
They're the best we have who are physically ready to play. We've got some athletic O linemen who will show up next year IMO. Corcoran for one. A couple of converted high school TEs are going to compete for time.
They're all terrible at getting to the second level and pretty much worthless there anyway. I've seen other guys fail way more often in pass protection. Jurgens never picks up the delayed blitz. Our tackles are really bad in pass protection. I don't know why you'd single Farniok out for that.
The sad thing is nobody else is going to get any better either with our current coaching.
Or he's had piss poor coaching while he's here and doesn't get any better just like all the other guys who haven't gotten any better due to poor coaching.
Jurgens is actually amazing at climbing to the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th levels. Sure, he doesn't touch a single soul along the way, but my God can that dude climb
Hope you’re not talking about this last game. He needs lots of work for someone in his 2nd year already. Might be too tall. Speed rushers eat his lunch. Athletes from OSU etc will key on him.
Farniok gets siingled out because he's usually the one who gets beat when our QB gets sacked. Jaimes has graded very well for his pass pro. You clearly have a vendetta against Frost and Austin. Time for you to go back to coaching Pop Warner....
just stop. I know you're an amazing high school position coach. Leave it at that.
That said what can Austin hang his hat on? His snapper is the worst in FBS if not ALL of College FB (if not all of HS FB) and one of his two most veteran offensive linemen (Farniok) is average at best (most likely two notches below that). Not seeing great things that he’s done in his past couple of years. Respect your opinion but...just the way I see it.
Jaimes is not a good pass blocker. And everyone gets beat in pass pro, not just Farniok. There's no reason at all to single Farniok out.
I'm not hanging that all on Austin. Jurgens doesn't have the problem in practice. That has to get fixed or he needs to move to guard. Riley and Cavanaugh are to blame for the lack of quality depth on the O line. They left quite a few bodies on the roster but at most 3 legit B1G starters. Jaimes is legit. 2 guys who graduated were good linemen. Frost had no way of knowing that until he got to work with them in spring camp AFTER he was hired. So he's had 2 years to recruit for spots where guys normally need 3 to contribute. They started addressing O line in a big way that first full class. That doesn't fix the problem for several years....and no JUCO linemen weren't going to plug the holes. We've tried that before.
So they all suck and I'm sure you could do better. Got it.
I think Benhart and Piper could be very good O linemen by the time they're done. Hell, Jurgens could too but there's no way we should expect 3 underclassmen to hold their own in the B1G right now. No way. Jaimes will very likely play in the NFL. I'll be shocked if he doesn't. Not because of my "analysis" but because of what people say who I'm quite sure know what they're talking about. They've either played or coached at a much higher level than "high school position coach".
This week should offer a good comparison. Both teams start 2 SR, 1 SP and 2 FR on their line.
Very well said!! Yes, finally some words that are valid thoughts that go a long way! We are a young team that needs practice and games!! When Coach Frost explains this same thoughts, some people jump on him as excuses!! Another reason why he wanted replacement games for the Big 10 not starting!! But some wanted to jump on him and blast him for it! Both national and in the sacred Big 10!!
I question your ability to see anything if you don't know why people are singling out Farniok.
