Huskers MBB vs Rutgers 1/3/2020

[dinglefritz]

We're 13 games into the season. This is about current teams, and about our previous games against Purdue and Indiana. We just stunk it up very bad tonight. Just horrible shooting.

This is what has me somewhat worried about next year too. We are going to have the same core of outside shooters, give or take 1 or 2. Teddy should bolster our percentages...I hope. We add quite a bit of size, which will open up outside looks more, but we're missing wide open looks right now. The FT % is pretty inexcusable too.

I trust FH, but the guys he brought in as shooters are not shooting at the level that I'm sure he expected. I know, we gotta give him a pass, but it makes me nervous that this is our core of outside shooters that are clanking shots left and right.

This is a reasonable take. I was talking about judging Rutgers' team on last years effort. FWIW for our new guys, there's a big difference between shooting over D2 and Juco defenses versus trying to shoot over a B1G defense or any D1 defense for that matter. We knew the guys we brought in had struggled at the free throw line. That can be improved SOME in practice. IMO, we've got some emotional young guys especially at the point and when things start off bad, they are going to struggle the whole game. The best thing Fred can do is to try to stay positive and encourage them at this point. I really didn't see us getting to 3 wins in the B1G this year with this team. It's going to be an emotionally tough year on these kids. The key IMO for us this year is to keep selling the current players that things will get better for them and that this year will help them next year.

 

[dinglefritz]

First game I've been able to watch in awhile. Its amazing how terribly we shoot the ball. Especially considering we are a guard heavy lineup. Hopefully that turns around quick, we can get a W today still
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Our shooting on the overseas trip and non-con were equally as inconsistent. IF we get hot from 3, we can surprise a team. If those first few 3s clank, well we're going to struggle the whole game in most cases. I don't think there will be a miraculous turn around in our shooting but we can hope for an upset or two in games where things fall. I would expect us to be dogs in virtually every game we play from here on out. The Vegas line this past game was set on Hoiberg's rep and a home court. Bettors will figure this team out pretty quickly.

 

[9and4]

We're 13 games into the season. This is about current teams, and about our previous games against Purdue and Indiana. We just stunk it up very bad tonight. Just horrible shooting.

This is what has me somewhat worried about next year too. We are going to have the same core of outside shooters, give or take 1 or 2. Teddy should bolster our percentages...I hope. We add quite a bit of size, which will open up outside looks more, but we're missing wide open looks right now. The FT % is pretty inexcusable too.

I trust FH, but the guys he brought in as shooters are not shooting at the level that I'm sure he expected. I know, we gotta give him a pass, but it makes me nervous that this is our core of outside shooters that are clanking shots left and right.

True, the Huskers played badly last night. Which means that a poor team played even worse than they're capable. They have had two (maybe a third against USF) where they played above their station. I know the Riverside game was just the first of the year, but that team just lost to Air Force by 49. We lost to Riverside by 19.

In the words of Monty Python: "This is an ex-parrot." It's not going to be revived this year, even though we may see another game or two where they play above their station.

As for the future, Cam Mack is the only player on this active roster who should get more than 10 minutes per game next year. If Thor is still around, he may be a good sixth man, but the rest are role players at best, though Cross and Ouedraogo may improve enough to help off the bench as well. Allen, Stevenson, Walker and Banton will raise the level of play.

Hoiberg generally likes an eight-man rotation, so put a line under Mayen's name, and the rest are going to fight for minutes next year:

1. Mack
2. Allen
3. Banton
4. Stevenson
5. Walker
6. Thor
7. Ouedraogo
8. Mayen
9. Cross
10. Burke
11. Green
12. Easley
13. Arop

 

[ZaneHickey]

Oh please. A ton of coaches curse.

The reality is that the guy is coaching to fire up his team and win games.

I have seen. I watch sports. Still not sure how loud vulgarity and sometimes maniacal behavior helps. I might be out in motherf'n left field on this, though.

 

[mgbreis]

I'm not a coach but there's no way Thor should be sitting so Kavas can play. The guy is flat out terrible in all facets. And I know that Fred likes the 3's, but last night they just kept pumping up brick after brick, very few were anywhere close to going in. So Fred can say "sometimes the shots don't fall" but we're talking about off the side of the backboard garbage. Maybe they'll get hot here and there and we'll win a couple.

 

[9and4]

I'm not a coach but there's no way Thor should be sitting so Kavas can play. The guy is flat out terrible in all facets. And I know that Fred likes the 3's, but last night they just kept pumping up brick after brick, very few were anywhere close to going in. So Fred can say "sometimes the shots don't fall" but we're talking about off the side of the backboard garbage. Maybe they'll get hot here and there and we'll win a couple.

Kavas has been disappointing, no doubt. On the positive side, we now know that going from the WAC to the Big Ten is a huge jump, not made easily by a one-trick pony.

 

[Huskerchil]

It’s hard to watch these games but with this team we’re going to get this result 75% of the time. Fred can’t make chicken soup out of chicken shit. Next year you will see at least 4 new starters. The big question is can Fred coach TA. Unbelievable talent but has attitude problems, hopefully not a Green. The future looks good anytime you got a coach like FH.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

College coaches yelling and using curse words? What is this world coming to??

 

[dinglefritz]

We're 13 games into the season. This is about current teams, and about our previous games against Purdue and Indiana. We just stunk it up very bad tonight. Just horrible shooting.

This is what has me somewhat worried about next year too. We are going to have the same core of outside shooters, give or take 1 or 2. Teddy should bolster our percentages...I hope. We add quite a bit of size, which will open up outside looks more, but we're missing wide open looks right now. The FT % is pretty inexcusable too.

I trust FH, but the guys he brought in as shooters are not shooting at the level that I'm sure he expected. I know, we gotta give him a pass, but it makes me nervous that this is our core of outside shooters that are clanking shots left and right.

That crappy Rutgers team is now 12-3 with 2 wins over ranked teams.

 

[Hoosker Du]

That crappy Rutgers team is now 12-3 with 2 wins over ranked teams.

And were favored by 2 1/2 over us.

 

[dinglefritz]

And were favored by 2 1/2 over us.

That's where Vegas had to put the line in order to attract money. That doesn't mean the sharps actually thought NU would only lose by 2 1/2. I would think the sharps who were paying attention probably loaded up on Rutgers. That line was just silly.

 

[Hoosker Du]

That's where Vegas had to put the line in order to attract money. That doesn't mean the sharps actually thought NU would only lose by 2 1/2. I would think the sharps who were paying attention probably loaded up on Rutgers. That line was just silly.

We both know that Vegas sets the line to attract equal money on both sides, which generally indicates what they think the point differential will be.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

Illinois beats Rutgers today 54-51

 

[dinglefritz]

Illinois beats Rutgers today 54-51

I watched about the last 10 minutes of that game. The Illini limited Rutgers' ability to get the ball inside and they couldn't make a jump shot from the perimeter. Illinois was also aided IMO by some questionable home court officiating a couple of times. There was one very questionable illegal screen call that probably was the critical call at the end. Illinois matched up very well physically with Rutgers. The score of the game says a bunch.