How Many Republicans Does It Take to Tell a Crime From a Coup?

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"The clouds of teargas hadn’t even cleared the battle-scarred hallways of the United States Capitol Complex before Republicans, led by House Minority “Leader” Kevin McCarthy, set about writing an alternate history of the insurrection their president and party had gleefully incited.

An organized conservative disinformation campaign turned violent rioters into peaceful “tourists.” Republican lawmakers refused to even speak to D.C. Police Officer Michael Fanone and other officers seriously wounded by the Trumpist mob. McCarthy, in an effort to delay and derail any government effort to uncover the truth, argued that any Jan. 6 Commission should also investigate last summer’s Black Lives Matter protests. Even the folks at Fox News slammed that half-baked idea.

On Tuesday, the bipartisan Jan. 6 Select Committee impaneled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi began their critical fact-finding after rejecting the dead weight of McCarthy’s self-selected obstructionists. For Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of only two Republicans on the commission, McCarthy’s BLM comparison was simply too much to bear.

“Some have concocted a counter-narrative to discredit this process on the grounds that we didn’t launch a similar investigation into the urban riots and looting last summer,” Kinzinger said during an emotional opening statement. “There is a difference between breaking the law and rejecting the rule of law, between a crime—even grave crimes—and a coup.”

Kinzinger’s moral clarity will disappoint his Republican colleagues, many of whom now see tying protests and riots in Portland and other cities to the Capitol insurrection as their last means of minimizing their own complicity in a direct attack on American government.

When far-right lawmakers like McCarthy, Louie Gohmert, Matt Gaetz, and others compare January 6 to “BLM riots,” they’re hoping to excite two thoughts in their listeners’ minds: first that these two events are equivalent and then that Democrats didn’t think it was a national emergency when ‘their side’ did it.

No one denies that the United States faced widespread and often deeply troubling protests during the summer of 2020. Between May and August, the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project recorded over 10,500 distinct demonstrations touching nearly every major community in America. But what is critical to add—and what Republicans hope to obscure by comparing these protests to the Capitol riot—is that fully 93 percent of last summer’s demonstrations were peaceful acts of protected speech. The January 6 insurrection was decidedly not.

Faced with largely peaceful protests, the GOP fear machine jumped into overdrive. Borrowing from left-wing organizer and conservative bogeyman Saul Alinsky, Republicans quickly publicized individual, isolated instances of violence as being representative of the entire Black Lives Matter movement. It was under that collective delusion that Trump encouraged a massively expensive, all-out police response that briefly turned Washington, D.C. into Fallujah.

This polarize-and-publicize approach helped solidify the image of BLM as violent and anti-American in conservative minds, even as it divorced Republicans from reality. In one particularly ridiculous instance, the Trump administration used a single instance of looting in Manhattan to declare all of New York City an “anarchist jurisdiction.”

The American people would need to drop all sense of nuance, context, and proportion to believe that myth—and that’s exactly what the GOP is hoping will happen.

Among the Republicans whining that the Jan, 6 rioters have been treated unfairly is Senator Rand Paul, who joined Gohmert’s unhinged calls for the Capitol insurrectionists to be released from jail. Paul, who has repeatedly and incorrectly claimed the Capitol mob was “non-violent,” is also a vocal supporter of McCarthy’s ‘BLM Commission’ publicity stunt.

Republicans are no strangers to the power of false equivalencies, but their latest effort to avoid accountability finally pushed Kinzinger to an emotional breaking point. Kinzinger has seen the difference between protest and insurrection up close.

“I was called on to serve during the summer riots as an Air National Guardsman. I condemned those riots and the destruction of property that resulted,” Kinzinger said. “But not once did I ever feel that the future of self-government was threatened like I did on January 6th.”

When Kinzinger condemns opportunistic GOP attempts to compare BLM to the violent January 6 insurrectionists who shattered U.S. Capitol Police Sergeant Aquilino Gonell’s foot with a stolen speaker, he is also hoping to head off a wave of performative “BLM Commissions” that Republican leaders hope to establish in red state legislatures across the country. Imagine a Jan. 6 Commission where every member is Jim Jordan. That’s a good idea of the fireworks Republicans would hope to generate from an all-GOP “investigation” into Black Americans’ political activism.

The GOP’s desperate attempt to change the subject has shifted wildly before finally settling on BLM as a reliable villain. Back in May, Republicans wanted to launch a similar “investigation” into antifa’s role in the Capitol attack (it had none). Then de facto GOP spokesman Tucker Carlson accused the FBI of masterminding the attack. Turning their fire on Black Americans may be all Republicans have left after facing a stinging round of denunciations from the Capitol police officers they have publicly abandoned.

Sergeant Gonell called the January 6 insurrection a “treasonous act,” and expressed frustration that Republican lawmakers lined up to support officers when they were putting down BLM protests in Washington, D.C. last summer, but disappeared when the perpetrators of violence were fellow Republicans. “It was not antifa, it was not Black Lives Matter, it was not the FBI,” he said of the Capitol insurrectionists. “All of them were saying, ‘Trump sent us!’”

Kinzinger and the only other Republican on the commission, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, both seem acutely aware that the GOP’s war on reality is already causing a seriously corrosive effect on our institutions of self-government. Cheney, no friend of the Black Lives Matter movement, nevertheless refused to join McCarthy and the Trumpists in their efforts to turn this investigation into yet another means to criminalize Black Americans.

Kinzinger and Cheney have demonstrated admirable patriotism in not only seeking the truth about the January 6 insurrection but in rejecting the multiple GOP attempts to dodge blame by smearing Black Lives Matter and leftist organizations. Their commitment to the truth is reassuring, but Congress will need more than Cheney and Kinzinger if it intends to prevent the GOP from wreaking havoc on the very idea of facts and truth."
 

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Kinzinger and the only other Republican on the commission, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, both seem acutely aware that the GOP’s war on reality is already causing a seriously corrosive effect on our institutions of self-government. Cheney, no friend of the Black Lives Matter movement, nevertheless refused to join McCarthy and the Trumpists in their efforts to turn this investigation into yet another means to criminalize Black Americans.

Kinzinger and Cheney have demonstrated admirable patriotism in not only seeking the truth about the January 6 insurrection but in rejecting the multiple GOP attempts to dodge blame by smearing Black Lives Matter and leftist organizations. Their commitment to the truth is reassuring, but Congress will need more than Cheney and Kinzinger if it intends to prevent the GOP from wreaking havoc on the very idea of facts and truth."
These two are "True Patriots."

Honestly... I hope Kinzinger runs for President someday. He is a guy that I would give serious credence to.
 

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"The clouds of teargas hadn’t even cleared the battle-scarred hallways of the United States Capitol Complex before Republicans, led by House Minority “Leader” Kevin McCarthy, set about writing an alternate history of the insurrection their president and party had gleefully incited.

An organized conservative disinformation campaign turned violent rioters into peaceful “tourists.” Republican lawmakers refused to even speak to D.C. Police Officer Michael Fanone and other officers seriously wounded by the Trumpist mob. McCarthy, in an effort to delay and derail any government effort to uncover the truth, argued that any Jan. 6 Commission should also investigate last summer’s Black Lives Matter protests. Even the folks at Fox News slammed that half-baked idea.

On Tuesday, the bipartisan Jan. 6 Select Committee impaneled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi began their critical fact-finding after rejecting the dead weight of McCarthy’s self-selected obstructionists. For Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger, one of only two Republicans on the commission, McCarthy’s BLM comparison was simply too much to bear.

“Some have concocted a counter-narrative to discredit this process on the grounds that we didn’t launch a similar investigation into the urban riots and looting last summer,” Kinzinger said during an emotional opening statement. “There is a difference between breaking the law and rejecting the rule of law, between a crime—even grave crimes—and a coup.”

Kinzinger’s moral clarity will disappoint his Republican colleagues, many of whom now see tying protests and riots in Portland and other cities to the Capitol insurrection as their last means of minimizing their own complicity in a direct attack on American government.

When far-right lawmakers like McCarthy, Louie Gohmert, Matt Gaetz, and others compare January 6 to “BLM riots,” they’re hoping to excite two thoughts in their listeners’ minds: first that these two events are equivalent and then that Democrats didn’t think it was a national emergency when ‘their side’ did it.

No one denies that the United States faced widespread and often deeply troubling protests during the summer of 2020. Between May and August, the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project recorded over 10,500 distinct demonstrations touching nearly every major community in America. But what is critical to add—and what Republicans hope to obscure by comparing these protests to the Capitol riot—is that fully 93 percent of last summer’s demonstrations were peaceful acts of protected speech. The January 6 insurrection was decidedly not.

Faced with largely peaceful protests, the GOP fear machine jumped into overdrive. Borrowing from left-wing organizer and conservative bogeyman Saul Alinsky, Republicans quickly publicized individual, isolated instances of violence as being representative of the entire Black Lives Matter movement. It was under that collective delusion that Trump encouraged a massively expensive, all-out police response that briefly turned Washington, D.C. into Fallujah.

This polarize-and-publicize approach helped solidify the image of BLM as violent and anti-American in conservative minds, even as it divorced Republicans from reality. In one particularly ridiculous instance, the Trump administration used a single instance of looting in Manhattan to declare all of New York City an “anarchist jurisdiction.”

The American people would need to drop all sense of nuance, context, and proportion to believe that myth—and that’s exactly what the GOP is hoping will happen.

Among the Republicans whining that the Jan, 6 rioters have been treated unfairly is Senator Rand Paul, who joined Gohmert’s unhinged calls for the Capitol insurrectionists to be released from jail. Paul, who has repeatedly and incorrectly claimed the Capitol mob was “non-violent,” is also a vocal supporter of McCarthy’s ‘BLM Commission’ publicity stunt.

Republicans are no strangers to the power of false equivalencies, but their latest effort to avoid accountability finally pushed Kinzinger to an emotional breaking point. Kinzinger has seen the difference between protest and insurrection up close.

“I was called on to serve during the summer riots as an Air National Guardsman. I condemned those riots and the destruction of property that resulted,” Kinzinger said. “But not once did I ever feel that the future of self-government was threatened like I did on January 6th.”

When Kinzinger condemns opportunistic GOP attempts to compare BLM to the violent January 6 insurrectionists who shattered U.S. Capitol Police Sergeant Aquilino Gonell’s foot with a stolen speaker, he is also hoping to head off a wave of performative “BLM Commissions” that Republican leaders hope to establish in red state legislatures across the country. Imagine a Jan. 6 Commission where every member is Jim Jordan. That’s a good idea of the fireworks Republicans would hope to generate from an all-GOP “investigation” into Black Americans’ political activism.

The GOP’s desperate attempt to change the subject has shifted wildly before finally settling on BLM as a reliable villain. Back in May, Republicans wanted to launch a similar “investigation” into antifa’s role in the Capitol attack (it had none). Then de facto GOP spokesman Tucker Carlson accused the FBI of masterminding the attack. Turning their fire on Black Americans may be all Republicans have left after facing a stinging round of denunciations from the Capitol police officers they have publicly abandoned.

Sergeant Gonell called the January 6 insurrection a “treasonous act,” and expressed frustration that Republican lawmakers lined up to support officers when they were putting down BLM protests in Washington, D.C. last summer, but disappeared when the perpetrators of violence were fellow Republicans. “It was not antifa, it was not Black Lives Matter, it was not the FBI,” he said of the Capitol insurrectionists. “All of them were saying, ‘Trump sent us!’”

Kinzinger and the only other Republican on the commission, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, both seem acutely aware that the GOP’s war on reality is already causing a seriously corrosive effect on our institutions of self-government. Cheney, no friend of the Black Lives Matter movement, nevertheless refused to join McCarthy and the Trumpists in their efforts to turn this investigation into yet another means to criminalize Black Americans.

Kinzinger and Cheney have demonstrated admirable patriotism in not only seeking the truth about the January 6 insurrection but in rejecting the multiple GOP attempts to dodge blame by smearing Black Lives Matter and leftist organizations. Their commitment to the truth is reassuring, but Congress will need more than Cheney and Kinzinger if it intends to prevent the GOP from wreaking havoc on the very idea of facts and truth."

 

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These two are "True Patriots."

Honestly... I hope Kinzinger runs for President someday. He is a guy that I would give serious credence to.

Is kinzniger the guy who was crying yesterday?

I just remember a bunch of names being thrown around when people were posting videos of dudes crying. His name is weird, so it stuck in my head a little.

We don't need a sensitive boy as our "leader"...

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Is kinzniger the guy who was crying yesterday?

I just remember a bunch of names being thrown around when people were posting videos of dudes crying. His name is weird, so it stuck in my head a little.

We don't need a sensitive boy as our "leader"...

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Yes he is...
Kinzinger resigned from the McLean County Board in 2003 to join the United States Air Force. He was commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant in November 2003 and later awarded his pilot wings. Kinzinger was initially a KC-135 Stratotanker pilot and flew missions in South America, Guam, Iraq and Afghanistan. He later switched to flying the RC-26 surveillance aircraft and was stationed in Iraq twice.[11]

Kinzinger has served in the Air Force Special Operations Command, Air Combat Command, Air Mobility Command, and Wisconsin Air National Guard and was progressively promoted to his current rank of Lieutenant Colonel.[12] As part of his continued service with the Air National Guard, Kinzinger was deployed to the Mexico–United States border in February 2019 as part of efforts to maintain border security.[13]
 

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Kinzinger resigned from the McLean County Board in 2003 to join the United States Air Force. He was commissioned a 2nd Lieutenant in November 2003 and later awarded his pilot wings. Kinzinger was initially a KC-135 Stratotanker pilot and flew missions in South America, Guam, Iraq and Afghanistan. He later switched to flying the RC-26 surveillance aircraft and was stationed in Iraq twice.[11]

Kinzinger has served in the Air Force Special Operations Command, Air Combat Command, Air Mobility Command, and Wisconsin Air National Guard and was progressively promoted to his current rank of Lieutenant Colonel.[12] As part of his continued service with the Air National Guard, Kinzinger was deployed to the Mexico–United States border in February 2019 as part of efforts to maintain border security.[13]

Thanks for the bio.

Surprised a military dude would be crying in front of everyone. But he is "chair force", I can dog on him, because I was also "chair force".

Thanks again.
 
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No, but you are an idiot. I have been clear that these people should be in prison from the get go you circus clown. It's just very clear they weren't trying to take over the government. Go back to your hole.

What happens if they made it through the police quicker, found the electoral ballots and mike pence? Thats what they were looking for, to stop the steal.
 

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No, but you are an idiot. I have been clear that these people should be in prison from the get go you circus clown. It's just very clear they weren't trying to take over the government. Go back to your hole.
Oh? What were they trying to do, Erik? What exactly was the purpose of the domestic terrorism that befell our nation's capitol on Jan 6? Just a temper tantrum?
 
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It's very different to cry for your son who killed himself.

The videos yesterday of dudes crying, just made me laugh.
Yeah... It seemed a bit overdramatic... but I know that I have teared up at times when I didn't expect it. So who am I to question his sentimentality.
 

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These two are "True Patriots."

Honestly... I hope Kinzinger runs for President someday. He is a guy that I would give serious credence to.
because he's a democrat...........roflmao
 

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No, but you are an idiot. I have been clear that these people should be in prison from the get go you circus clown. It's just very clear they weren't trying to take over the government. Go back to your hole.
Were they trying to overturn the will of the people?
Were they advocating for the the killing or at the very least the abduction of congressman and woman?

What was their end game if not to change the government in some way shape or form?
 

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Oh? What were they trying to do, Erik? What exactly was the purpose of the domestic terrorism that befell our nation's capitol on Jan 6? Just a temper tantrum?
It's been stated in many article. Google it buddy. They were demanding vote audits. I don't agree with their tactics at all, but clear you seem to be someone that has multiple temper tantrums. You use the domestic terrorism wording very loosely. You should be on the 2022 Snowflake Calendar.
 

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Were they trying to overturn the will of the people?
Were they advocating for the the killing or at the very least the abduction of congressman and woman?

What was their end game if not to change the government in some way shape or form?
Were they trying to overturn the will of the people? Looks like be a vote audit
Were they advocating for the the killing or at the very least the abduction of congressman and woman? maybe some random crazies were. You think that crowd was mostly for abductions? really? With no weapons?

What was their end game if not to change the government in some way shape or form? Vote audit, So you think the goal was to occupy the capitol for weeks ?The people that keep mentioning a coup have no idea what a coup is.
 

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It's been stated in many article. Google it buddy. They were demanding vote audits. I don't agree with their tactics at all, but clear you seem to be someone that has multiple temper tantrums. You use the domestic terrorism wording very loosely. You should be on the 2022 Snowflake Calendar.
What tactics would that be? Chants of "Hang Mike Pence"? Smearing shit on the walls? Vandalizing congressional offices? Stealing podiums? Assaulting capitol police?

That was how they demanded vote audits? Lol. Please share more.
 

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Democrats the new Nazi party. When they don't get what they want they burn down cities and you clowns are worried about people carrying flags into the Capital after being USHERED IN!
 
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What tactics would that be? Chants of "Hang Mike Pence"? Smearing shit on the walls? Vandalizing congressional offices? Stealing podiums? Assaulting capitol police?

That was how they demanded vote audits? Lol. Please share more.
You're correct, no one mentioned vote audits as part of the insurrection. It is just what the talking points of revisionist history have morphed into.
 

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If you have nothing to hide, you release the 14,000 hours of video ✅

Who planted the bombs ✅

None of the "domestic terrorists" have been charged with sedition ✅

Old 80 year old woman just walks in and take pics. She wasn't crushed, knocked down, or even rushed ✅

CNN refused to show and report BLM attacking 40 Secret Service in 2020✅

Black cop making up story about racism is black nationalist. Has cop cam and there will never be video evidence(Dem narrative) he has a nice pic with Pelosi✅

Two lib lawyers throw molotov cocktails at police car and were released on bail, but Jan 6 have been refused bail✅

12 FBI helped plan kidnapping of Governor of Michigan✅

FBI captured on Jan 5th trying to incite a riot✅

Too many what ifs! They put together this committee because the narrative is drying up. They keep comparing it to real events that were so much worse. There is plenty of personal video, showing the Capitol Police sitting back and doing nothing. Magnetic lock doors that just pop open magically like a prostitutes legs. They arrested the idiots that caused harm and just charge them. They still won't get charged sedition or any big charges because they don't have evidence of it!🤔 They use 5min or less out of 14,000 hours of video and then they have the court seal it. There is still so much more, but this is good enough to say," something doesn't smell right!"
 

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Here's Peter Stager demanding a vote audit by beating a fallen police officer with an American flag
So this is worse than what they did to the Secret Service? This is worse than what BLM/ANTIFA did over and over to the Portland courthouse? Actually it's not even close, but since the left didn't cover the events because they're propagandists. All of them should be arrested and served justice, but you have to ask yourself why they haven't been charged sedition or any charges with insurrection! 🤔
 

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FIFY

When far-right lawmakers like McCarthy, Louie Gohmert, Matt Gaetz, and others compare January 6 to “BLM riots,” they’re hoping to excite three thoughts in their listeners’ minds: first that these two events are equivalent, second that Democrats didn’t think it was a national emergency when ‘their side’ did it, and three to stoke racial divides, by making white people who watch Fox news think black people are not being held accountable but white people are.
 

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FIFY

When far-right lawmakers like McCarthy, Louie Gohmert, Matt Gaetz, and others compare January 6 to “BLM riots,” they’re hoping to excite three thoughts in their listeners’ minds: first that these two events are equivalent, second that Democrats didn’t think it was a national emergency when ‘their side’ did it, and three to stoke racial divides, by making white people who watch Fox news think black people are not being held accountable but white people are.
What a dumbass!
FIFY


New York, Portland, Baltimore, Minneapolis, and more Dem cities have been releasing criminals without charges. San Fran won't even arrest petty crime under 1000. Just like stop the Asian hate that is being carried out by black perpetrators, but blamed on white supremacy.
 
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FIFY

When far-right lawmakers like McCarthy, Louie Gohmert, Matt Gaetz, and others compare January 6 to “BLM riots,” they’re hoping to excite three thoughts in their listeners’ minds: first that these two events are equivalent, second that Democrats didn’t think it was a national emergency when ‘their side’ did it, and three to stoke racial divides, by making white people who watch Fox news think black people are not being held accountable but white people are.
This is a completely ignorant statement. The Antifa thugs in these riots especially in MN, Seattle, and Portland looked mainly white.
 
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If you have nothing to hide, you release the 14,000 hours of video ✅

Who planted the bombs ✅

None of the "domestic terrorists" have been charged with sedition ✅

Old 80 year old woman just walks in and take pics. She wasn't crushed, knocked down, or even rushed ✅

CNN refused to show and report BLM attacking 40 Secret Service in 2020✅

Black cop making up story about racism is black nationalist. Has cop cam and there will never be video evidence(Dem narrative) he has a nice pic with Pelosi✅

Two lib lawyers throw molotov cocktails at police car and were released on bail, but Jan 6 have been refused bail✅

12 FBI helped plan kidnapping of Governor of Michigan✅

FBI captured on Jan 5th trying to incite a riot✅

Too many what ifs! They put together this committee because the narrative is drying up. They keep comparing it to real events that were so much worse. There is plenty of personal video, showing the Capitol Police sitting back and doing nothing. Magnetic lock doors that just pop open magically like a prostitutes legs. They arrested the idiots that caused harm and just charge them. They still won't get charged sedition or any big charges because they don't have evidence of it!🤔 They use 5min or less out of 14,000 hours of video and then they have the court seal it. There is still so much more, but this is good enough to say," something doesn't smell right!"
That black cop the trotted out there sure loved him some Nancy Pelosi,BLM,,George Floyd riots according to his social media posts And hated Trump. Go figure
 
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That black cop the trotted out there sure loved him some Nancy Pelosi,BLM,,George Floyd riots according to his social media posts And hated Trump. Go figure
Yep, he is a black nationalist, but the left will believe anything they're told. Where is the officers that took a year of abuse from BLM/ANTIFA? I want to hear their story or the 40 Secret Service that were injured.