Crap analogy. You claim to be a Reds fan, but I'm not seeing it. Do you forget the hell that was Reds baseball for the 15 years prior to Dusty's arrival? He made it a winner again. 3 playoffs and 2 division championships in 4 years. So fire the guy. He also got the Cubs the closest they have been to the World Series in like a jillion years. And successful at San Francisco as well. He wins wherever he has been at and is still considered a crappy manager. Because of the same dumb cubs fans that threw Bartman under the bus. Yeah, you should listen to them.