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Given the options, why wouldn't one support Biden. He buried Paul Ryan in the 2012 debate. He's honest and decent. Trump -- not so much.
 
I have not once said that I support Biden. But you support Trump, a notorious adulterer who paid $130,000 for sex with a porn star, and faces multiple accusations of sexual assault and rape. And Pence is creepy. Simply uttering Biden's name does not wash the creep off Pence. Why are Repubs suckers for this line of false reasoning? If I say the sky is blue, and you respond, "well so is the ocean," you understand the sky is still blue, right? And in this case Pence is still a creep.

Ha, you've said, time and time again, that you support Biden. Reread everything that you have posted. Trump has nothing to do with it, but keep going back to that well and don't stay on point. There is no "false reasoning." Again, you are holding on way too tight. You claim "Pence is creepy." I point out that you are a hypocrite because you support Biden. At what point did I say Pence wasn't creepy? I was merely pointing out the obvious and inherent problem in your statement. I think you are trying way too hard to sound or be smart. This is a huge problem for liberals; they attack Trump, get called out for their own many sets of problems, and then they get all bent out of shape about it, as if their sh!t doesn't stink. Focus.

I'm married and probably wouldn't go out to dinner with just one other woman. I'll take Pence's creepy to that of the hair-sniffing, see-how-long-I-can-press-my-junk-against-this-female Biden any time. You can keep your serial sex offender.
 
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I'll vote for Biden, but I think he's a terrible candidate. I thought the field offered better choices than what the party ended up with. He's flawed as hell, and has a long record of very questionable decision making, which anybody who has been in the game as long as he has surely will. So yea, I'm serious when I say I thought it was pretty uninspiring when he won the nomination.
 
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I get a kick out of either side calling out the other for voting for the creepy candidate. I really get a kick out of one side even making a deal out of the others actions toward women.
 
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I get a kick out of either side calling out the other for voting for the creepy candidate. I really get a kick out of one side even making a deal out of the others actions toward women.
You are suffering from the same infirmity as some others. Is it as broad as one side vs. another side? How is it so difficult to understand that if you attack someone for having a certain characteristic, and your "side" isn't a choir boy or girl, that you shouldn't expect or deserve some blow back? I really get a kick out of the holier than thou crap one side in particular seems to think they own.
 
Ha, you've said, time and time again, that you support Biden. Reread everything that you have posted. Trump has nothing to do with it, but keep going back to that well and don't stay on point. There is no "false reasoning." Again, you are holding on way too tight. You claim "Pence is creepy." I point out that you are a hypocrite because you support Biden. At what point did I say Pence wasn't creepy? I was merely pointing out the obvious and inherent problem in your statement. I think you are trying way too hard to sound or be smart. This is a huge problem for liberals; they attack Trump, get called out for their own many sets of problems, and then they get all bent out of shape about it, as if their sh!t doesn't stink. Focus.

I'm married and probably wouldn't go out to dinner with just one other woman. I'll take Pence's creepy to that of the hair-sniffing, see-how-long-I-can-press-my-junk-against-this-female Biden any time. You can keep your serial sex offender.
Maybe you're trying too hard to be willfully ignorant. And you won't have a meal with a woman who isn't your wife? You've never had a working lunch with a female friend? Never had a beer with a buddy who just happens to be of the female persuasion? Don't you have any female friends? For all your talk of rights and freedoms you sure are repressed.
 
You are suffering from the same infirmity as some others. Is it as broad as one side vs. another side? How is it so difficult to understand that if you attack someone for having a certain characteristic, and your "side" isn't a choir boy or girl, that you shouldn't expect or deserve some blow back? I really get a kick out of the holier than thou crap one side in particular seems to think they own.
I really try to find a redeeming quality of the modern left.
From what I see, they offer no redemption, no forgiveness, no mercy; only division, hate, restriction of liberties and pandering under the guise of generosity that never seems to come to fruition.
 
Maybe you're trying too hard to be willfully ignorant. And you won't have a meal with a woman who isn't your wife? You've never had a working lunch with a female friend? Never had a beer with a buddy who just happens to be of the female persuasion? Don't you have any female friends? For all your talk of rights and freedoms you sure are repressed.
blame the fraudulent #MeToo movement. We've given women de facto universal judicial power
 
Maybe you're trying too hard to be willfully ignorant. And you won't have a meal with a woman who isn't your wife? You've never had a working lunch with a female friend? Never had a beer with a buddy who just happens to be of the female persuasion? Don't you have any female friends? For all your talk of rights and freedoms you sure are repressed.

There you go, getting all sensitive and defensive again, and not bothering to process the information. Way too tight a grip. Maybe take a walk, say some
prayers, meditate, stare at the wall, whatever you need to do to center yourself.
 
You are suffering from the same infirmity as some others. Is it as broad as one side vs. another side? How is it so difficult to understand that if you attack someone for having a certain characteristic, and your "side" isn't a choir boy or girl, that you shouldn't expect or deserve some blow back? I really get a kick out of the holier than thou crap one side in particular seems to think they own.
You're trying to be this dense. I don't care if you think Biden is a creep. You keep acting like he's a close and personal friend of mine. His personal demons don't impact me in the least because I want politicians and the corrupt held accountable. That should be a very simple concept to grasp. But he is not currently president of vice president, when and if he becomes president then he deserves to be scrutinized. Still, his behavior does not change the fact that Pence is a creep or that Trump is an accused sexual predator, and your childish attempts to explain them away in some I'm rubber and your glue competition achieves nothing. It would seem Repubs are making the argument that all things are equal and therefore none of it matters. If that's the case why do anything at all?
 
There you go, getting all sensitive and defensive again, and not bothering to process the information. Way too tight a grip. Maybe take a walk, say some
prayers, meditate, stare at the wall, whatever you need to do to center yourself.
I'm good, bro. Just owning repubs all day long!!
 
You're trying to be this dense. I don't care if you think Biden is a creep. You keep acting like he's a close and personal friend of mine. His personal demons don't impact me in the least because I want politicians and the corrupt held accountable. That should be a very simple concept to grasp. But he is not currently president of vice president, when and if he becomes president then he deserves to be scrutinized. Still, his behavior does not change the fact that Pence is a creep or that Trump is an accused sexual predator, and your childish attempts to explain them away in some I'm rubber and your glue competition achieves nothing. It would seem Repubs are making the argument that all things are equal and therefore none of it matters. If that's the case why do anything at all?
Only a matter of time before you go into crisis lock-down mode. Enjoy spending the entirety of your day on this site continuing to fail to follow the conversation while celebrating how smart you think you are. Hope the meltdown goes well.
 
No "bro," you aren't good. You've been chewed up and spit out too many times to count. Your kind just doesn't care, it's "your truth," not the truth, that matters.
I've dominated your pathetic attempts to debate the issues. Up your game, or be gone with you.
 
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Given the options, why wouldn't one support Biden. He buried Paul Ryan in the 2012 debate. He's honest and decent. Trump -- not so much.

Because he is Brick Tamland from Anchorman. It aint 2012 and the dude can't even hold a thought right now. Right now you are voting for Harris if you vote Biden as he will die in office or be forced to retire due to his cognitive decline that everyone seems to be downplaying.
 
Its illegal and the IRS or his bank would have caught that by now.

Yes, it is most certainly illegal. It does seem that this has stayed under wraps. He of course has had the power of his presidency to conceal the more recent crimes. By your logic Bernie Madoff would’ve been caught much sooner as well. Many times law enforcement doesn’t become involved in white collar crimes until after the whole thing unravels.

It’s your perogative to be skeptical. There is a myriad of (IMO) convincing reporting on this, especially when it comes to his Scottish golf courses.

I’m quite confident my hypothesis will be proven to be true in the next 5 years. How soon depends on the outcome of the election.
 
There's no evidence that any of this NYT article is true either.

There is evidence. It’s just not public. If it were untrue all Trump has to do is show his returns and file his libel suit. He’s not going to do that of course bc the NYT does have the underlying documents. They wouldn’t run this story against one of the most litigious moguls in the history of time if they didn’t have the necessary underlying documents.
 
Yes, it is most certainly illegal. It does seem that this has stayed under wraps. He of course has had the power of his presidency to conceal the more recent crimes. By your logic Bernie Madoff would’ve been caught much sooner as well. Many times law enforcement doesn’t become involved in white collar crimes until after the whole thing unravels.

It’s your perogative to be skeptical. There is a myriad of (IMO) convincing reporting on this, especially when it comes to his Scottish golf courses.

I’m quite confident my hypothesis will be proven to be true in the next 5 years. How soon depends on the outcome of the election.
That's fair, and if he did break the law by committing bank fraud he will be caught. Thats a much bigger issue than tax evasion. I'm skeptical of all of it because the only tax documents we've actually seen show that he paid 35 million dollars in tax in 2005.
 
That's fair, and if he did break the law by committing bank fraud he will be caught. Thats a much bigger issue than tax evasion. I'm skeptical of all of it because the only tax documents we've actually seen show that he paid 35 million dollars in tax in 2005.

We agree on that. Either my hypothesis (which I’ve held for a few years) is incorrect or it will all come out in time.
 
We agree on that. Either my hypothesis (which I’ve held for a few years) is incorrect or it will all come out in time.
This is just a hunch, but I have a feeling that Trumps loans probably came from his own corporations or from foreign banks. Its possible that he used one of his corporations to borrow money from a domestic bank and then turned around and loaned money to himself from those proceeds, which would be consistent with why his audits have gone on for so long. Things get pretty complicated when you are moving money back and forth between personal holdings and corporations that you own. Ive done it several times and my stuff is nowhere near as complex as what Trump has. On top of that, he can make a legitimate case that his brand is an actual business. Because of that, he can make a legal case that doing something like buying a golf course that perennially loses money is actually an asset because by having his name on it improves his brand, which is a legitimate deduction. None of this is as cut and dried as either he is a failed businessman or he is committing tax fraud.
 
The New York Times has been in business since 1841. It has won 130 Pulitzer Prizes, more than any other news source. Ad Fontes Media, an independent media rating source rates the NYT as neutral and balanced and highly reliable, so there's that. As Lindsey Graham said, DJT is a "race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot." Trump has schemed and scammed all of his life. It's finally catching up with him.

The NYT also notoriously ran cover for Hitler and Stalin. They worked with Comey to start the Russia hoax that consumed much of US politics for two and half years. It's all a big circle fest between these left-leaning propaganda mills. They report the "news" that they want to report on and only in the context they want their viewers to see it, and they simply ignore what they don't want their readers to know.

We live in a time where the vast majority of our news sources are partisans who have no intention on reporting just the facts. They all report the version they want you to see and some of you are so far gone that you're completely unaware that so much of what you know isn't so. There are too many people who rely on their phones to tell them what the weather is rather than actually going outside and experiencing it in reality.
 
Anyway, about that herd immunity. So do you guys think we're getting close or not?
 
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