Heinrich Sims
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It doesn't help that three defenders are in the backfield before he finishes his drop. The O-line is trash, the receivers can't catch, and the running backs are average at best. How does an offensive coordinator call plays when they are not going to be executed anyway?
That and when your QB doesn't see the safety multiple times and throws it to them..
OL and WRs had bad moments too, but it started with Haarberg, even when he had time he just refuses to stay poised and look before he throws.
Rhule must be a stupid and terrible head coach to be playing his worst QB. Everyone knows there's a Unitas on the bench.
Who said that? Must have missed it.
Haarberg is, unfortunately, king of poop mountain in the QB room.
It's implied. Everyone venting their fury over Haarberg like a bunch of toddlers. He's what we've got. Now, if Rhule puts someone else in I'm all for it because I believe he's playing the guy that gives us the best chance. For now.
I doubt many here are wishing for HH to fail.
He's not good. He's shown heart and toughness. That's about what we're going to get with him.
I understand rooting for and wanting the guy to improve and win. We all want to see that.
The constant battle around here praising and making excuses for him though, is mental.
He's not good. He's shown heart and toughness. That's about what we're going to get with him.
I understand rooting for and wanting the guy to improve and win. We all want to see that.
The constant battle around here praising and making excuses for him though, is mental.
Rome wasn’t built in a day, just give it some time, like, forever
Tjhere have been a LOT of sacks this season that were on the QB. A typical QB would have thrown it away or found the open receiver. Haarberg has been holding onto it too long and tries to outrun everyone.
Guys go to any length to find a way to excuse that BS we have watched from our QB the last couple weeks . I'm astonished tbh.
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That's what I'm having a problem with. Guys like him and I get it. I do as well but at what point does the excuse making stop? The OL sucks, RBs average, WRs can't catch, Satterfield can't call plays...etc etc etc. How about calling a spade a spade. Nobody made all those excuses when Sims was stinking up the joint. All we heard was "he's a turnover machine" " get his ass out of there". "How much longer are we gonna watch Sims turn it over before we play someone else".
THAT was what was said about Sims. ..and deservedly so I might add. He needed to be replaced. Give someone else a shot.
All I ask is keep that same energy when talking about our current turnover machine. It can't be OK for Sims but not OK for HH. Say what you want but the "math ain't mathing"
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Haarberg is not a good as we hoped or as bad as we fear. But today his ceiling was quite apparent. Hit the portal.
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By HIT THE PORTAL I meant that Rhule needs to hit the portal for a QB, not that HH should hit the portal. I respect the young man's fight and will never disrespect him with a snide comment. I needed to clarify that.
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By HIT THE PORTAL I meant that Rhule needs to hit the portal for a QB, not that HH should hit the portal. I respect the young man's fight and will never disrespect him with a snide comment. I needed to clarify that.
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None of it's good, but this was a 2-6 team and a few of HH's worst plays were incredibly bad and had nothing to do with lack of time or the O-Line.
It comes down to the fact that we have won with HH and we didn't with Sims. And in all honesty Sims' turnovers were worse and seemed to hurt the team worse, at least up until today. HH was really bad today.
HH has been better than sims but today was not a good game for him. Missed a lot of open guys, maybe he's hurt bc he's regressing and doesn't look confident.
Sims was horrible I will not argue with that point. But I hear a bunch of convenient excuses when it comes to HH. Sims never got that benefit. He was bad in the Minnesota game but it was the Anthony Grant fumble that costed us that game. The CU game I admit again that Sims was God awful and should have been pulled before he got hurt. Either way HH got the chance. He wasn't good or bad at CU but due to injury he got to start moving forward.
Now he looked ok in the next couple games against inferior competition. We have no clue how Sims would've looked but imo it doesn't matter. I didn't have a problem with them sticking with the kid. He shown some good and a good deal of bad play. But as you said they won.
Michigan game is pretty much a throw away game for all. Even though I think HH actually played pretty good. All things considered it was probably his best game. So he deserved credit for that.
Now since the Michigan game imo he has gotten noticeably worse in every game . Sloppy play, balls on the ground, bad decisions, poor passes, turnovers, just a hodge podge of bad play. For every good play we get 3 or 4 WTF moments. Now I understand we were winning but at that point we were winning in spite of QB play and not because of it. You hear coaches say all the time "don't accept in a win that you wouldn't accept in a loss". Yet we as fans and them( coaches) to a certain extent we're doing just that. I know the QB spot is different but man Anthony Grant didn't get that benefit. They have pulled him at least twice for fumbling this year. HH runs it every bit as much if not more than AG and has put it on the ground at a higher clip. When is that not ok? Is it ok because Grants fumbles were lost and some of HHs were recovered? OR...again is it "don't accept something in a win that you wouldn't accept during a loss"?
At this point I think Sims is probably a done deal. I think mentally he's checked out. Maybe it's the yips or whatever but I don't trust him. But at some point you give the next guy up a chance. I don't know if Purdy is any better but imo he should be given the opportunity. HH left enough plays on the field today that we win this game by 2 TDs with bad officiating, turnovers and all.
I understand the difficulty in pulling a guy but I feel the same way now I felt about Sims at CU. At some point you owe it to the rest of the team to see what the next guy has. If he's worse then you deal with it accordingly but to 'allow" this kinda QB play is unacceptable to me.
How would I do it. I'd simply give Purdy as many first team reps this week as I did HH and get him ramped up to play. I'd give HH the opportunity to start but he would know that the leash moving forward was short. The same shoddy play won't be tolerated. It's that simple to me...
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Noodle arm Purdy lmao. I'd support him if he went in... But I'd assume we're waving the white flag and rolling over for a loss like a good dog...
let's play a quick game of Name That QB:
QB 1 - 50% completions, 5.5 air yards/attempt, 110.7 Passer Rating
QB 2 - 44% completions, 0.2 air yards/attempt, 56.7 Passer Rating
which would you choose?
Noodle Arm Purdy? As opposed to 'an interception is as good as a punt Haarburg'?
The kid is the brother of Brock and started as a true frosh at Florida State so he must have something. I've heard he's pretty adept at running the option
No one us saying start Purdy and start up a Mike Leach offense or to bar HH from ever entering the stadium again. Purdy doesn't even have to start, just put him in and see what kind of reaction the team has.
No one is against HH, but being honest with your own eyes excepting he isn’t the future at QB for Rhule, but we have three more games to get bowl eligible before we find a better QB in the portal..
Daniel Kaelin could have hit some of those passes yesterday with his accuracy..
Daniel Kaelin could have hit some of those passes yesterday with his accuracy..
He's thrown two passes this year. Is it within the realm of conversation he may have improved or would once he started playing?
BTW, that completion percentage is any worse than what HH has done for us lately?
I'll give you the guy can run given an open space but that's about all he's got.
to answer your first question, no, it's not. the fact we haven't even seen him in a helmet speaks volumes.
to answer your second questions, yes, HH's worst games surrounded by the least offensive talent in NU history have statistically been better than purdy's best games while playing with Trey Palmer in the most passer friendly offense in NU history.
Wrong Callahan offense’s were the most pass happy offense’s in program history with Gantz and Zach Taylor..
Bruh...I don't have to play a QB game. That's for kids. I know what my eyes tell me. HH has gotten worse and was horrible yesterday. Everyone with a pair of eyes seen it. You have been blowing that horn for him for the longest. Just take it like a man and eat it. He's gotten worse in fact.
I'm also not interested in what someone did playing in a completely different system. As if new coaching, systems and development doesn't matter. By that logic everyone on our defense who played poorly under Chinnander and his system would play poorly under White and his system. That has been proven in spades not to be true. So I'm not interested blind stats with no context.
I will say Ive watched the last 2-3 weeks of up and down QB play which culminated the last 2 of just plain bad play. At first we passed it off as "we are winning" so it's all ok. Someone told you weeks ago that when the rest of the team played a similar game to the QB we would lose. I've been consistent from what Ive seen and said. He's been a bad QB for a while and has benefitted from a defense who has played extremely well. That didn't happen yesterday and we got what we got.
Protect the ball. I could even deal with some of the missed throws because he is raw as all get out. But the very thing that y'all bitched about replacing the other QB about (rightfully too) you NOW wanna give him a pass.
Today I've seen you talk about how bad the OL is, how bad the RBs are, how the WRs can catch, and how none of them could play for anybody else and the QB is the only playmaker on the team. All after the QB...not them the QB had his worse game of the year and has struggled mightily the last 2-3 games. Why? None of the savior talk? None of the "they are winning because of him" talk? Of course not...now you wanna deflect blame and look for OTHER faults .
We have no clue what a Purdy would look like if given a chance under this staff. Just as we had no clue what HH would look like. Are you scared that he MIGHT look better? I'm all for playing who plays the best. Which is why I didn't complain when Sims was pulled and HH showed better than he did. I think guys like you are more scared that Purdy will look decent and you will look bad. I wanna win and I don't care who that QB is. Could be a walk on for all I care. I don't give a shit if the kid is from Lincoln Nebraska or Compton California either. If he's playing good football he should keep playing it but if he's not and he's a turnover machine. Sit him down please...
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Yeah cause that cannon we have seen hanging from our current guy has been so accurate 😉 Dude throwing so far behind receiver it's like they aren't even in the screen (Fidone). Won't even mention those Mahomes like accurate deep ball to Bullock...smh.
Hell of a weekend to talk about a noodle arm. I wouldn't care if it was a noodle arm. As long as it gets to our guys.
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That's their new excuse too. "It's as good as a punt". That's hilarious 🤣🤣. It's almost to the point where it sound political. Excuse it away anyway you can 😂
Remember at one point it was "yeah he's fumbling the ball but we are recovering it not the defense" 😂😂
What kinda shit is that to be propping someone up with? It amazing the lengths some will go through in order to protect what they want to happen.
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Man these guys are still in denial. They think HH is the QB of the future and we aren't going in the portal to get better. They truly believe that. U gotta laugh.
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I don't think there was ever a world where they wouldn't hit the portal. They are running what they currently are out of necessity. They didn't come here to run this type of offense.
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Made me laugh
Purdy has played in 3 systems. Never once performed better than HH’s worst game but we know your “big picture” is very selective
He physically cannot throw the ball 30 yards in the air
I hope he plays so everyone here can see who knows what they’re talking about and who doesn’t
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Lmao ...the moment you said a D1 QB couldn't throw the ball 30 yards in the air was the moment I no longer take you serious as a poster. Have a good day brother.
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You obviously didn’t watch NU last year or purdy ever
“Big picture”
You won’t find a single vid of him doing so in college because they don’t exist
Great stuff, kok
5 years ago
won't find a single completion longer than 30 yards in the air during college because it doesn't exist
and forget completion, you won't find a single attempt longer than that since he's been here.
his arm is shot & has been since he got here.
I would personally rather see his "shot" arm get a chance in the same system HH is running. I had never watched his film and never liked him, but he is a far better runner than I expected. I don't give a shit if he can throw it 30 yards or not, just 10 to 20 yards and escapability will do just fine. If he shits the bed nothing is lost.....
I know you would.
and I disagree. a lot could and would be lost.
we're 5-4 and there's no reason we can't be in and win the rest of our games, bowl game included.
