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Imagine what will happen if Biden knocks it out of the park during the first debate.
He won't, but he will overperform expectations since they are so low. I will say though that Wallace is a wildcard and could throw him a curveball, particularly with what is happening with Hunter this week. Joe doesn't like answering questions about him.
 
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trump will receive the highest percentage of minority votes in republican party presidential history. between the riots and the lowest minority unemployment numbers ever recorded the great shift has started. the republican rhinos are soon to be extinct with the socialists soon to follow. the globalists will be exposed for the greedy cheating lying criminals they are. Americans will win this election.
 
trump will receive the highest percentage of minority votes in republican party presidential history. between the riots and the lowest minority unemployment numbers ever recorded the great shift has started. the republican rhinos are soon to be extinct with the socialists soon to follow. the globalists will be exposed for the greedy cheating lying criminals they are. Americans will win this election.
Is this a screenplay you're working on?
 
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i've never voted for a democrat and i'm 59. i dont really care about parties any more but i will not vote for the republican for the first time ever this year. there are more important things than policy. trump is going to cause a civil war by his get re-elected at all costs approach. there's a reason why college educated citizens vote against trump more than any other group outside african americans.

 
Trump “gave us a heck of an economy”...
On the back of a 1.2 trillion dollar deficit, and tax giveaway to corporations that used it to buy back their own stock and artificially drive up the stock market.
And on the back of a 50 billion dollar and counting bribe to farmers to make up for his idiotic, unilateral trade ‘showdown’ with China.
I’d look a lot richer too if I had a credit card with no limit that I never had any intention of paying back (well, I guess I could have my grandchildren pay it off—I’m sure they won’t mind).

You'll be dead, so who gives a shit. You do realize that the president can't really do anything other than sign into law things that have passed through the house and the senate?
 
I'm not going to read this thread which I'm sure is pure AIDS. If you're at all interested in how right wing people think watch Tucker. He's somewhat interesting.
 
Again more leftist BS. You are full of false stories. Do you know who John Durham is and the treason conducted by Obama and his FBI & DOJ. Think you will know very soon
Pathetic. Trump wasn't kidding when he said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and it would not make one bit of difference. Do you even care how biased you are? The right loves to drop words like snowflake and triggered, but damn if y'all are some paper thin snowflakes. I say Obama and immediately you shout "marxist" "communist" "criminal." It'd be freaking hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. I could invent the most outlandish Obama accusation and before I gave you a single detail you'd say "he's guilty." I could then tell you Trump is in the middle of a scandal with people being convicted of crimes all around him and you'd should "conspiracy." The right has BS pumping through its veins.
 
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Pathetic. Trump wasn't kidding when he said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and it would not make one bit of difference. Do you even care how biased you are? The right loves to drop words like snowflake and triggered, but damn if y'all are some paper thin snowflakes. I say Obama and immediately you shout "marxist" "communist" "criminal." It'd be freaking hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. I could invent the most outlandish Obama accusation and before I gave you a single detail you'd say "he's guilty." I could then tell you Trump is in the middle of a scandal with people being convicted of crimes all around him and you'd should "conspiracy." The right has BS pumping through its veins.
I don’t think the left has a corner on the market of reality either...
 
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i've never voted for a democrat and i'm 59. i dont really care about parties any more but i will not vote for the republican for the first time ever this year. there are more important things than policy. trump is going to cause a civil war by his get re-elected at all costs approach. there's a reason why college educated citizens vote against trump more than any other group outside african americans.
Yeah we believe you've never voted for a Democrat....not. Only if you've never voted because you just turned 15. You've had your head in the sand if you don't think that the Democrat BLMers haven't already started their civil war. IF somebody decides to start something after Trump wins it will be very short. The civil unrest will stop shortly. The financiers and organizers of the violent protests will be exposed and the perps will get some time in prison to rethink their actions. There's no way the Democrat mayors and governors let this continue once the election is over.
 
I don’t think the left has a corner on the market of reality either...
Of course it doesn't, who does? What's changed is that we no longer debate whether this policy or that policy is good or bad. Instead we debate whether science is real and pizzagate. Repubs full embrace of QAnon and 8chan is terrifying. Both parties have their fringe, but the fringe is now center stage for the tighty righties. You might not agree with the left, you might downright hate them, but their leaders haven't fully embraced the tin foil hat wearing nut jobs. Crazy is an orange faced clown in the White House, and the screaming hoards love him like toddlers at a birthday party.
 
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Yeah we believe you've never voted for a Democrat....not. Only if you've never voted because you just turned 15. You've had your head in the sand if you don't think that the Democrat BLMers haven't already started their civil war. IF somebody decides to start something after Trump wins it will be very short. The civil unrest will stop shortly. The financiers and organizers of the violent protests will be exposed and the perps will get some time in prison to rethink their actions. There's no way the Democrat mayors and governors let this continue once the election is over.
Too hard for your brain to comprehend that lots of people are tired of this clown in the WH? Sorry to tell you, cause I can tell it offends your delicate sensibilities, but lot's of educated lifelong Repubs have seen enough. The attack on sanity and decency has gone on for long enough. I'd like to think this country is resilient enough to withstand the onslaught of misinformation, conspiracy and the attack on fact from the righties, but Drumpf has tried his hardest to tear everything down. If it tumbles, what makes you think the fascists would win?
 
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Too hard for your brain to comprehend that lots of people are tired of this clown in the WH? Sorry to tell you, cause I can tell it offends your delicate sensibilities, but lot's of educated lifelong Repubs have seen enough. The attack on sanity and decency has gone on for long enough. I'd like to think this country is resilient enough to withstand the onslaught of misinformation, conspiracy and the attack on fact from the righties, but Drumpf has tried his hardest to tear everything down. If it tumbles, what makes you think the fascists would win?
So you're saying you're a RHINO? Okay. Trump no doubt has tried to tear down the secret society of DEMUBLICANS who enrich themselves and their families by serving on boards of multinational companies while selling out American citizens. Put the Bush family name strongly in that camp along with the Bidens, Clintons (add in dummy non-profit foundations shaking down foreign governments), etc etc. I don't like Trump's personality BUT IF you are a Republican you have to like the way he's stood up for people who are concerned about the increasing power and influence the Chinese have over our country. You will note that evidence of HUGE cash payments to Hunter Biden from Moscow and China has recently surfaced. The single largest holder of U.S. debt is the Chinese government. The powers that be in both parties have allowed that to happen to enrich themselves and their cronies. Trump upset the apple cart with his trade negotiations with China. WE have made China an economic super power. Screw public decency. That went out the window with Bill Clinton. I don't look at what they say any more. I look at the policies they enact.
 
So you're saying you're a RHINO? Okay. Trump no doubt has tried to tear down the secret society of DEMUBLICANS who enrich themselves and their families by serving on boards of multinational companies while selling out American citizens. Put the Bush family name strongly in that camp along with the Bidens, Clintons (add in dummy non-profit foundations shaking down foreign governments), etc etc. I don't like Trump's personality BUT IF you are a Republican you have to like the way he's stood up for people who are concerned about the increasing power and influence the Chinese have over our country. The single largest holder of U.S. debt is the Chinese government. The powers that be in both parties have allowed that to happen to enrich themselves and their cronies. Trump upset the apple cart with his trade negotiations with China. WE have made China an economic super power. Screw public decency. That went out the window with Bill Clinton. I don't look at what they say any more. I look at the policies they enact.
Classic!! "Trump no doubt has tried to tear down the secret society of DEMUBLICANS who enrich themselves and their families by serving on boards of multinational companies while selling out American citizens." You mean like Trump? Hahahahah. But in all seriousness. The one issue that has me drawn me toward Trump is China. I don't know that everything has worked especially well, and I'm very dubious about the long game, but China is one massively dark cloud on the horizon. It's hard to project 25 years out, much less 100, but if I had to predict I'd see us moving closer to India to balance our influence in the region and to offset advances by China.
 
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Pathetic. Trump wasn't kidding when he said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and it would not make one bit of difference. Do you even care how biased you are? The right loves to drop words like snowflake and triggered, but damn if y'all are some paper thin snowflakes. I say Obama and immediately you shout "marxist" "communist" "criminal." It'd be freaking hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic. I could invent the most outlandish Obama accusation and before I gave you a single detail you'd say "he's guilty." I could then tell you Trump is in the middle of a scandal with people being convicted of crimes all around him and you'd should "conspiracy." The right has BS pumping through its veins.
You might want to read the FBI emails that Flynn admitted into the court record. "What is going on up there? We are exactly who Trump says we are."
 
Too hard for your brain to comprehend that lots of people are tired of this clown in the WH? Sorry to tell you, cause I can tell it offends your delicate sensibilities, but lot's of educated lifelong Repubs have seen enough. The attack on sanity and decency has gone on for long enough. I'd like to think this country is resilient enough to withstand the onslaught of misinformation, conspiracy and the attack on fact from the righties, but Drumpf has tried his hardest to tear everything down. If it tumbles, what makes you think the fascists would win?

Misinformation, conspiracy and the attack on fact from the righties? Suggesting the left isn’t gawd awful in these capacities? I get the disdain for Trump for those on the left, because he is constantly putting his middle finger up to you, but I would also say there has never been a President so vehemently attacked and run down by the left and the media, which only further incites Trump to respond when attacked. He definitely can make himself an easy target, but he’s had to put up with spygate and a manufactured impeachment for the bulk of his time. Trump acts like a Democrat, but with a more conservative approach, which must just drive those in the left absolutely nuts. So much projecting going on
 
Classic!! "Trump no doubt has tried to tear down the secret society of DEMUBLICANS who enrich themselves and their families by serving on boards of multinational companies while selling out American citizens." You mean like Trump? Hahahahah. But in all seriousness. The one issue that has me drawn me toward Trump is China. I don't know that everything has worked especially well, and I'm very dubious about the long game, but China is one massively dark cloud on the horizon. It's hard to project 25 years out, much less 100, but if I had to predict I'd see us moving closer to India to balance our influence in the region and to offset advances by China.

I agree on China and India. The Middle East is also potentially a game changer.
 
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You might want to read the FBI emails that Flynn admitted into the court record. "What is going on up there? We are exactly who Trump says we are."
I'm going to opt for a righty line of argument here: Flynn is a convicted criminal. No credibility.
 
I agree on China and India. The Middle East is also potentially a game changer.
Middle East has been one for a long while. What could really shift the map is if China continues to make inroads in the Middle East, it's already done just that in parts of the greater Middle East, Pakistan is a prime example. That's a nightmare waiting to happen, and why we need to leverage our relations with India.
 
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I dont like Flynn, but that conviction is going to be overturned
Repubs scream bloody murder when Democrats pardon drug dealers and other criminals, but to apply their way of thinking to these matters, the pardon doesn't erase their crimes. All I'm saying is if that's the standard, then I'll do the same. Trump is pardoning his buddies and other high profile officials who abused their power. They might be pardoned, but to my mind they're still criminals.
 
Repubs scream bloody murder when Democrats pardon drug dealers and other criminals, but to apply their way of thinking to these matters, the pardon doesn't erase their crimes. All I'm saying is if that's the standard, then I'll do the same. Trump is pardoning his buddies and other high profile officials who abused their power. They might be pardoned, but to my mind they're still criminals.
I'm not talking about a pardon. A judge will overturn his conviction.
 
I'm not talking about a pardon. A judge will overturn his conviction.
You could be right, but I'm dubious. The guy pleaded guilty, twice. Not to start another long thread of whinging about the courts, but the courts have to be balanced. For decades, the left and right struck a balance, the right seated judges center and right, the left seated judges center and left, but generally there was a protocol. The right seems to be under the impression now that stacking the courts will lead to a country more in line with their views. What'll happen if goes too far in either direction is the court will lose its credibility with a huge swath of the public. Cue the BLM attacks.
 
You could be right, but I'm dubious. The guy pleaded guilty, twice. Not to start another long thread of whinging about the courts, but the courts have to be balanced. For decades, the left and right struck a balance, the right seated judges center and right, the left seated judges center and left, but generally there was a protocol. The right seems to be under the impression now that stacking the courts will lead to a country more in line with their views. What'll happen if goes too far in either direction is the court will lose its credibility with a huge swath of the public. Cue the BLM attacks.

What?! It is the Left that is explicitly threatening to stack the courts. What are you talking about? And “no,” nominating and confirming conservative judges is a move to originalism and away from judicial activism, not to change the trajectory of the Country, which is precisely how the Demcr view the courts (incorrectly) as legislative bodies. That’s why they are losing their sh!t over possibly losing Ginsburgs seat to a moderate, because they will be less likely to cram down their agenda judicially, rather than legislatively.
 
Teflon Don. None of it sticks. Trump will get under his skin. Joementia will try the same and Don will laugh it off. Joe will be flustered and disoriented. He may faint. Should be fun.

What have you seen from Trump that makes you think he’ll “laugh it off?” No one is a whinier little bitch than Donald Trump. He spent this morning crying on twitter about the Fox News poll that shows him behind Biden in many swing states. Real manly and presidential there, Donald. But he’ll hurl insults in lieu of arguing substance, which, last I checked, isn’t a thing a mature man does, but you’ll slurp it up, because being a fanboy for a little bitch is totally alpha, right?
 
What?! It is the Left that is explicitly threatening to stack the courts. What are you talking about? And “no,” nominating and confirming conservative judges is a move to originalism and away from judicial activism, not to change the trajectory of the Country, which is precisely how the Demcr view the courts (incorrectly) as legislative bodies. That’s why they are losing their sh!t over possibly losing Ginsburgs seat to a moderate, because they will be less likely to cram down their agenda judicially, rather than legislatively.
That is revisionist garbage. Both parties have tried stacking the courts and it's wrong no matter whether you lean left or right. Originalism is a wonky term that just means you like the interpretation of a certain set of judges. The law isn't science, it's logic, which is to say there is no right or wrong, just arguments. Besides, there are plenty of opinions from the court's right wing that have had major legislative impacts on our society. Shelby County v. Holder ring a bell? The law is interpretation and persuasion, so please don't peddle your "the right is original" crap here.
 
That is revisionist garbage. Both parties have tried stacking the courts and it's wrong no matter whether you lean left or right. Originalism is a wonky term that just means you like the interpretation of a certain set of judges. The law isn't science, it's logic, which is to say there is no right or wrong, just arguments. Besides, there are plenty of opinions from the court's right wing that have had major legislative impacts on our society. Shelby County v. Holder ring a bell? The law is interpretation and persuasion, so please don't peddle your "the right is original" crap here.

Let’s start with “packing the courts.” Do you know what the means? Lots on the left are threatening to do it. The right isn’t threatening to do it, the left is. There is zero argument there. Amiright?
 
Let’s start with “packing the courts.” Do you know what the means? Lots on the left are threatening to do it. The right isn’t threatening to do it, the left is. There is zero argument there. Amiright?

You're wasting your time. That guy spews such utter nonsense that he has to be a troll or he's been propagandized beyond repair by the Left.
 
You're wasting your time. That guy spews such utter nonsense that he has to be a troll or he's been propagandized beyond repair by the Left.
I know, right. Like, let's not meet his arguments with our own arguments because all we got are insults and ... insults.
 
Biden just had some surgery for this debate - Inserted hearing device to help with answers from Bernie and AOC

You're probably closer to the truth than not. If (and it's still a big IF) he doesn't back out of the debates, he'll have help in some way - a hearing device in his ear, hidden TelePrompTer, etc.
 
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