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Good Thing We Had These Coaches To Salvage 5 Wins For Us This Year...

timnsun

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Now that I have your attention, why don't you see a single thread such as this on the board? There are a lot of Riley apologists here, why hasn't any one of us started something like this?

It's because we know the coaching wasn't the best throughout the season. They made mistakes. Heck, it can easily be argued they even cost us a game or two. We can see both sides of the coin between coaching and talent. The reasons for 5-7 are myriad, including talent, whether some want to accept that or not.

On the flip side, Riley detractors (I won't say blo-tards or other Pelini supporting language here, because I don't follow the board well enough to know who would come under this category) can't stop starting threads about bad coaching, bad recruiting, bad history, fill in the blank. I've seen post after post suggesting we should have hired someone else, and even posts saying now is the time to move on from these coaches after just one season (and even sooner, in may cases).

What gives? The grass may not be greener on the other side... we will know soon enough what we have. Riley apologists are not writing posts saying these are the best coaches we could have gotten. But what we are saying is, since he is our coach, give him a chance. He may surprise you. He has a reputation for developing talent, as some are fond of pointing out (both positively and negatively).

This is not directed at those who are frustrated by the ________________________ (fill in the blank). We all are frustrated at how this year went, we all expected and wanted better. Frustration is natural. I am directing this at those who have already written him off, who are looking for reasons to post negative threads at the first opportunity. Recognize the middle ground... Coaching was an issue this year, talent was an issue this year, new systems, not the right personnel, chemistry, whatever. To blame it just on coaching is worn out. To say recruiting sucks before the recruiting season is completed is old. If the coaches don't bring the results they will be gone soon enough, and so will the other supervillians, Harvey and Sean.
 
I think the real debate is did Riley do the right thing. By that I mean playing his offense to show the future of the program to recruits and get the players used to it. Or should he have played more to TA strengths. Not passing 40 plus times. So much behind the scenes stuff that we cannot really know everything. I think good coaches play to the strength of their players. But he is also in his first year so now would be the time to institute change. Do you think POB would be coming if we ran the ball all day and ran the QB 12to 15 times a game? I think he deserves more time both recruiting and on the field. GBR
 
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If he is sacrificing wins to show his system works, he is doing it wrong. You may have this option at a different school, but Nebraska is a different monster. The 25 recruits you bring in next year won't do crap if you don't have the confidence of the numerous players you currently have. Prove that you can do the things that work even if it doesn't fit your system. You can easily play to TA's strengths in this system but you can't tell hem to be patient in the pocket and not run the football. If they would have told him to stay in the pocket for 4-5 seconds if possible and then run through a rush lane, they would have fared much better. You can still tell the recruits that this isn't what the overall plan is, but this is what we have currently.
 
If he is sacrificing wins to show his system works, he is doing it wrong. You may have this option at a different school, but Nebraska is a different monster. The 25 recruits you bring in next year won't do crap if you don't have the confidence of the numerous players you currently have. Prove that you can do the things that work even if it doesn't fit your system. You can easily play to TA's strengths in this system but you can't tell hem to be patient in the pocket and not run the football. If they would have told him to stay in the pocket for 4-5 seconds if possible and then run through a rush lane, they would have fared much better. You can still tell the recruits that this isn't what the overall plan is, but this is what we have currently.
I don't disagree. You make good points. I just think you are underestimating the perception of N nationally. We have a lot to over come when it comes to recruiting the skill positions. And to tell a kid that we will run a different offence when comes in doesn't really fly. Other coaches will spin that like crazy. Besides his offense had us in every game this year. No blow outs. So something was working. But all that being said for some reason things never really seemed to run very smoothly. Especially the Purdue game. So I hope Riley and company figure out their mistakes and get to know the personal better. So next year will be a big improvement.
 
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I am not trying to say run a different offense, just have TA do different things. It wouldn't be hard to tell POB that this is the offense we run, but TA can't do what you can therefore you will have a different role as a QB. We can pass the ball more with a better QB where as TA is more effective scrambling. I would call the same plays with POB or TA, they both just react to each play differently. Really need to have TA run more as a scrambler and not a designed play runner. I think he could be 5 times more effective that way.
 
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This season was a disaster, some combination of bad luck, coaching errors and player errors. I hope we win tonight, maybe get the corner turned. Otherwise we'll be an even uglier 5-8 for the year going into the final recruiting weeks. I think we Could win tonight, but no idea whether we will.
 
If he is sacrificing wins to show his system works, he is doing it wrong. You may have this option at a different school, but Nebraska is a different monster. The 25 recruits you bring in next year won't do crap if you don't have the confidence of the numerous players you currently have. Prove that you can do the things that work even if it doesn't fit your system. You can easily play to TA's strengths in this system but you can't tell hem to be patient in the pocket and not run the football. If they would have told him to stay in the pocket for 4-5 seconds if possible and then run through a rush lane, they would have fared much better. You can still tell the recruits that this isn't what the overall plan is, but this is what we have currently.

Six plays are the difference between being 11-1 and not 5-7. Riley didn't sacrifice anything! Even with all the issues Riley and his staff had to deal with in this transition year the simple truth is we are a handful of plays away.
 
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Six plays are the difference between being 11-1 and not 5-7. Riley didn't sacrifice anything! Even with all the issues Riley and his staff had to deal with in this transition year the simple truth is we are a handful of plays away.
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I am not trying to say run a different offense, just have TA do different things. It wouldn't be hard to tell POB that this is the offense we run, but TA can't do what you can therefore you will have a different role as a QB. We can pass the ball more with a better QB where as TA is more effective scrambling. I would call the same plays with POB or TA, they both just react to each play differently. Really need to have TA run more as a scrambler and not a designed play runner. I think he could be 5 times more effective that way.
Yes I get that. Run TA more. But it's hard to coach a QB scramble. How do you call a play hoping it will be covered so TA can run? I say more called QB runs could have been in order.
 
What I'm curious to see if Tommy comes out and plays lights out. He makes great decisions and correct reads through is progressions and abandons the yard ball mentality. How incredibly ironic that would be???
 
Six plays are the difference between being 11-1 and not 5-7. Riley didn't sacrifice anything! Even with all the issues Riley and his staff had to deal with in this transition year the simple truth is we are a handful of plays away.

If you want to go that route, we are also a play away from being 4-8 as well. He did sacrifice wins to prove his system. How did he NOT when he had a former walk-on QB throw the ball 48 times against the worst rush defense in the conference. He was trying to show how big his dick was, and just proved it's not as big as he thinks it is. That was dumbest game plan in the history of college football and still was close to the win. If he had made a sensible game plan, Nebraska wins that game by 30.

Which game do you still think we lose since you say 11-1? I am hoping the Purdue game since that was the dick measuring contest.
 
Yes I get that. Run TA more. But it's hard to coach a QB scramble. How do you call a play hoping it will be covered so TA can run? I say more called QB runs could have been in order.

They told TA to stay in the pocket longer. It wouldn't be hard to teach a running QB to scramble. It comes natural to running QB's to run the ball. His unique ability to run backwards and do a twirly thingy to buy more time doesnt not work. Tell him to run forward in an opening if he has one. IF not, throw the ball away.
 
If you want to go that route, we are also a play away from being 4-8 as well. He did sacrifice wins to prove his system. How did he NOT when he had a former walk-on QB throw the ball 48 times against the worst rush defense in the conference. He was trying to show how big his dick was, and just proved it's not as big as he thinks it is. That was dumbest game plan in the history of college football and still was close to the win. If he had made a sensible game plan, Nebraska wins that game by 30.

Which game do you still think we lose since you say 11-1? I am hoping the Purdue game since that was the dick measuring contest.
I hate to go hear but the game plan from a defensive minded coach to let Gordan run for 408. We have had it worse.
 
If you want to go that route, we are also a play away from being 4-8 as well. He did sacrifice wins to prove his system. How did he NOT when he had a former walk-on QB throw the ball 48 times against the worst rush defense in the conference. He was trying to show how big his dick was, and just proved it's not as big as he thinks it is. That was dumbest game plan in the history of college football and still was close to the win. If he had made a sensible game plan, Nebraska wins that game by 30.

Which game do you still think we lose since you say 11-1? I am hoping the Purdue game since that was the dick measuring contest.

Simple fact is Tommy single handedly blew this season up and laid the groundwork for Riley's head being served up on a platter. Michigan State was won by Brandon making an incredible play on a horribly thrown ball. Luckily that Sparty DB dropped that interception in the endzone.
 
What's that even mean? Laughing
That is what we were trying to figure out! Ha

I thought it meant a fan that loved Riley and thought he could do no wrong...but some of my buddies thought it meant that you disliked Riley and thought he was bad...

Then we just drank a lot and never figured it out!
 
Simple fact is Tommy single handedly blew this season up and laid the groundwork for Riley's head being served up on a platter. Michigan State was won by Brandon making an incredible play on a horribly thrown ball. Luckily that Sparty DB dropped that interception in the endzone.
Shut up. You have proven many times you can't fix stupid. No need to keep proving it.
 
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If you want to go that route, we are also a play away from being 4-8 as well. He did sacrifice wins to prove his system. How did he NOT when he had a former walk-on QB throw the ball 48 times against the worst rush defense in the conference. He was trying to show how big his dick was, and just proved it's not as big as he thinks it is. That was dumbest game plan in the history of college football and still was close to the win. If he had made a sensible game plan, Nebraska wins that game by 30.

Which game do you still think we lose since you say 11-1? I am hoping the Purdue game since that was the dick measuring contest.

I saw a team take a dump around the new guy. I wonder if this is what Tommy was getting at in his tweet??? Looks like some guys definitely had his back that day against Purdue???
 
I will be the first to praise Riley when he actually does something worthy of praise. But any high school coach in Nebraska could have coached this team to 5-7 and 44th in recruiting at this point.
 
I will be the first to praise Riley when he actually does something worthy of praise. But any high school coach in Nebraska could have coached this team to 5-7 and 44th in recruiting at this point.
Bro, you are exhibit A to my post. Didn't even need to name names thanks to your post.

So if any high school coach could do what Riley did, why do you suppose he has been paid millions and millions of dollars to be a head coach in multiple locations? The guy can coach. Your issue has to do with the hire, not his ability to coach.

Don't believe for a second that you will be the first to praise Riley. Not one bit. You can't stand the guy as a coach. Period.
 
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Bro, you are exhibit A to my post. Didn't even need to name names thanks to your post.

So if any high school coach could do what Riley did, why do you suppose he has been paid millions and millions of dollars to be a head coach in multiple locations? The guy can coach. Your issue has to do with the hire, not his ability to coach.

Don't believe for a second that you will be the first to praise Riley. Not one bit. You can't stand the guy as a coach. Period.

Defensively, UCLA is a matchup disaster for us.
 
This game makes my thread seem a little stupid... At least as far as the talent issue. We hung with a team and beat them, because the coaches called a game utilizing our players to the best of their abilities. I felt like Tommy was not put in a position where he had to win the game with his arm. The game plan was what we needed to be successful. The talent isn't where we want it to be, but tonight showed that we do have talented players, and the coaches used their talents well tonight. Our talent level should win us more games than we lose, and I hope that becomes a reality moving forward.

If only I had waited one more day...

I still think these coaches can be effective... If they can build momentum, I think the recruiting will continue to improve (they have a plan and seem to be well organized). As many of you know, I am an optimist, and look forward to what will be next year.

GBR!
 
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This game makes my thread seem a little stupid... At least as far as the talent issue. We hung with a team and beat them, because the coaches called a game utilizing our players to the best of their abilities. I felt like Tommy was not put in a position where he had to win the game with his arm. The game plan was what we needed to be successful. The talent isn't where we want it to be, but tonight showed that we do have talented players, and the coaches used their talents well tonight. Our talent level should win us more games than we lose, and I hope that becomes a reality moving forward.

If only I had waited one more day...

I still think these coaches can be effective... If they can build momentum, I think the recruiting will continue to improve (they have a plan and seem to be well organized). As many of you know, I am an optimist, and look forward to what will be next year.

GBR!
Your thread still holds weight. I'm as excited about the win as anyone. But it's clear we need more athletes especially in the defensive backfield and D line. But they played hard and as a team. Now let's use momentum of win in recruiting.GBR
 
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