Very true which only means Riley developed those kids better than SF.
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Mike Riley wasn't very good at Nebraska, but he's unquestionably a better coach than Frost.Very true which only means Riley developed those kids better than SF.
Unless Nebraska has inherited some curse such that its teams always under-perform rather solid recruiting service rankings, the evidence points to coaching, or perhaps not recruiting the right types of players to their systems.
This is actually a plus for any incoming coach. The bar was set so low by the prior two coaches that anyone will be judged as successful if it gets to 8-10 wins a year. Plus if the stories about Herm Edwards being sabotaged by the athletic school are true we won't have a hard time winning that battle for coaches looking for new jobs.
I was at that game and afterwards saw a guy so drunk on sauce that he keeled straight over while waiting for a crosswalk light and impale his nose into a rose bush. It was probably one of you
Frost and his assistant coaches did a very poor job recruiting offensive and defensive linemen and linebackers. We are paying the price now.
In other words, Mike Riley's worst season at Nebraska was about as good as Scott Frost's best season.
This is the best! Hire a coach with a plan and include the fans on his solution, like, fans have patience until we get the lines developed! Not, " better get us in the first few yrs', He's the future Husker Qback, example, McCaffery ! Walk the sidelines, coaching, encouraging, not scowling, with arms folded! Do the grind, coach, recruit, follow through! Get a few 4star to Lincoln & developed of 3 stars! 😄
There have been several problems that Nebraska has faced for over two decades and hiring a solid HC is at the top of the list. We have also seen some very questionable assistant coaches added that seem to be none fits for our program. One of the issues Nebraska has had that few people talk about is talent evaluation especially along the offensive line.
I have never seen a position group trend down faster than I have with the OL. It's time to get coaches in here who can evaluate OL talent even if they are only two and three star kids. Let's face facts, it's going to take the next man in charge a few years to tear this thing down and build it back up.
Like it or not Nebraska is nowhere near to the Nebraska football program the fans expect and deserve. I'm all for our next head coach burning this football program down and building it back up properly, we deserve it as loyal fans.
I have never seen a position group trend down faster than I have with the OL. It's time to get coaches in here who can evaluate OL talent even if they are only two and three star kids. Let's face facts, it's going to take the next man in charge a few years to tear this thing down and build it back up.
Like it or not Nebraska is nowhere near to the Nebraska football program the fans expect and deserve. I'm all for our next head coach burning this football program down and building it back up properly, we deserve it as loyal fans.
It starts with identification on makeup of these recruits. We have not done enough beyond talent evaluation imo
Yes, so true enough sir. I too really wanted Frost to win endlessly but was uncertain if he would hack it. But I sure wanted him to win bigtime. But, I was totally dead wrong. Oh well.....
Damn well stated sir! If you don't have a vicious OLine you're just in a bucket of sh*t.
This is excellent. The hidden factor in all of this is the lack of real player evaluation when it comes to recruiting. Far too often over the past twenty years one gets the impression that our coaches just relied on Rivals star rankings and then threw offers at every high three star and four star recruits without really analyzing them. If you look carefully you also saw that never got any of the top 300 players in the country. We need a coach with a system and who knows how to evaluate talent and recruit it to that system. You know... like Osborne used to do. Like all good coaches do.
Instead of these 4* busts like Benhart, Corcoran and maybe Teddy, I'd just as soon have a collection of an eligible Nouili and Hixson. They aren't special, but they are solid.
In the PFF ratings this year, Benhart is actually rated much higher as a RT than Teddy is at LT. Benhart 187 of 583. Teddy P 477 0f 583.
Guards Bando 311 of 592, Corcoran 479 of 592.
Center Hixson 83 of 284.
Do you think we are not getting the rights guys or simply failing to coach them properly, especially on the line? I tend to think it is the latter.
Corcoran and Benhart are busts because they've never been taught proper blocking techniques and Zach Duval turned them into big fat slobs.
It's not not not player evaluations!!!! They are getting good players, Frost just did absolutely terrible at developing them. He ran off every Florida kid before they could contribute. I keep saying not a single player that signed with NU over the past 5 years actually got better. Maybe Jurgens. But nobody else. The only kids who improved were Rileys recruits. Will Nixon couldn't play wr at NU but goes to Washington and looks good at running back. It's all on Frost.
Look at Farniok. Had to go to the NFL to learn how to block. Corcoran and Benhart can still learn, maybe not here.
I totally agree that Duvall is a large part of the problem. The sooner they cut Duvall loose, the sooner the players begin to improve physically.
Other than Cam, Corcoran looks to be the best athlete since the Frost regime began. But, he sure doesn't play like it. Piper is another pretty athletic kid who can't seem to block anyone.
Some of our “talent” issues with our linemen is our shunning of PED use IMO. After one of Bama’s title run a few years ago that they had multiple guys test positive after the bowl season. Anybody who doesn’t think P5 linemen are using PEDs is naive. NU has been very vocal about their athletes avoiding their use.
farniok still can’t block. They benched for a retired 40 year old they signed 2 weeks ago.
