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1) Does he take the job? A lot of pressure at Nebraska and a tougher job than it use to be to win. Surprised FLA hasn't thrown the checkbook at him.

2) Havent watched UCF this year, what kind of offense does he run? Is it more of a RO / spread type?

3) IF he ends up at Nebraska where will his recruiting focus be? Seems to have a lot of NW connections and now some FLA connections.

4) What kind of rope does he get at Neb? What will the patience of the fanbase be like compared to a Beliema or different hire?
 
I put our odds of getting Frost at 50%.

He runs the Oregon offense

He would get 5 years, but to be honest it would not take him 5 years to turn Neb around to a team that is competing for Big 10 championships. (I said COMPETING)

He would recruit the entire country. focus 500 mile radius for big men and the best speed guys around but for those speed guys he would be nationally. JMO
 
He will only succeed if the administration will allow him to "manipulate" his recruiting and roster situations. If NU has to recruit only HS kids, and has to limit its walk-on situation then we will be mediocre. If Frost can recruit D-line depth from Juco...and if he can pump up the walk-on program in "creative" ways then I think we have a chance to win starting next year. We have offensive talent to score...and can defend if we had some depth and competition. Bo nearly made a BCS game in 2009 and 2010, his graduation rate was 65% because of Jucos, he never made it close after that but his graduation rate rose to 85%, and his juco recruitment stopped. NU was never limited by administration during their great years and the "free market" in terms of recruiting needs to return.
 
Frost understands how it works at NU. NU has been recruiting nationally for a very long time and must continue to do so to be successful. They also worked very hard to bring in local talent as walk-ons. The mill of live, competitive practices fostered the kind of development and competition needed to compete nationally. Finally, we had a system that not everyone else had meaning we could get athletes in that fit the system but maybe not a more popular system.

How he would adapt to that in this day and age, I don't know. You can't really do walk-ons any longer, not like then. Those players now get full rides at other schools. He runs a popular offense so will be competing with everyone else. But he will at least understand the issues better than most that walk in here cold.
 
1) Does he take the job? A lot of pressure at Nebraska and a tougher job than it use to be to win. Surprised FLA hasn't thrown the checkbook at him.

2) Havent watched UCF this year, what kind of offense does he run? Is it more of a RO / spread type?

3) IF he ends up at Nebraska where will his recruiting focus be? Seems to have a lot of NW connections and now some FLA connections.

4) What kind of rope does he get at Neb? What will the patience of the fanbase be like compared to a Beliema or different hire?
1. Yes I do believe we get him. I believe FL had thrown the checkbook at him and he turned them down. Nebraska is also throwing the checkbook at him.
2. He runs very similar to what he ran at Oregon, fast pased up tempo, run first mentality. He has admitted his first love is the option. So wondering if he would bring that back to an extent when he comes.
3. Guessing he will continue to use the connection he currently has. Plus him coming back to the midwest he should get some from this area as well.
4. He will have much more patience from our fans compared to anywhere else he could go. Just because he is a "home" guy. I also am guessing if he has 2 or 3 years of poor teams and losing records that patience will wear down fast. I think realistically people will give him 4-5 years as long as we are showing progress.
 
Frost will be the guy. He will win 7 or 8 next year, Nebraska always has the talent to at least win that. There are plenty of weapons on offense, but the OL needs completely rebuilt.
 
Every major-conference job has pressure these days. Scott will get a little more patience here than at a place like Florida, because he's a revered former player. I think he will come, because we will allow him to bring all of "his guys" with him - it's very important to him that his staff is taken care of. The rumor is that Florida wants their next coach to keep Randy Shannon as defensive coordinator, and most SEC schools are going to want him to bring in a staff with lots of SEC connections. Frost has a lot of Midwestern guys on his staff that would fit in well here.
 
I live in FL and watched all of their games. It’s definely Oregon-like with a few option wrinkles mixed in. Really, really fast paced and up-tempo. He recruits speed and toughness. Basically tires the other teams out and most just wilted after half-time. I think he will do well with pieces we already have. JD Spielman and Jaylin Bradley will excell in his offense.
 
1) Does he take the job? A lot of pressure at Nebraska and a tougher job than it use to be to win. Surprised FLA hasn't thrown the checkbook at him.

2) Havent watched UCF this year, what kind of offense does he run? Is it more of a RO / spread type?

3) IF he ends up at Nebraska where will his recruiting focus be? Seems to have a lot of NW connections and now some FLA connections.

4) What kind of rope does he get at Neb? What will the patience of the fanbase be like compared to a Beliema or different hire?

Oregon like the other 3 Northwest Pac 12 schools get the bulk of their players from California and elsewhere. Seattle puts out a few good players every year and Portland to a lesser extent. I don't think Frost will spend that much time up here in PNW.
 
nobody will excel in our offense until we find some lineman who can block. not sure how or why but our O line under Cavs has degressed each and every year he has been in charge of them. it's a sad state at that position.
 
1. Yes I do believe we get him. I believe FL had thrown the checkbook at him and he turned them down. Nebraska is also throwing the checkbook at him.
2. He runs very similar to what he ran at Oregon, fast pased up tempo, run first mentality. He has admitted his first love is the option. So wondering if he would bring that back to an extent when he comes.
3. Guessing he will continue to use the connection he currently has. Plus him coming back to the midwest he should get some from this area as well.
4. He will have much more patience from our fans compared to anywhere else he could go. Just because he is a "home" guy. I also am guessing if he has 2 or 3 years of poor teams and losing records that patience will wear down fast. I think realistically people will give him 4-5 years as long as we are showing progress.

After three years of Riley a good Boys And Girls Club flag football coach could show progress. I don't think Frost will have any problem getting that done.
 
Yes we get Frost. He wins at least 9 next year, and then it’s on from there. My early guess is Frost will have similar to slightly above the success that Bo had (competing for championships). If he does that and doesn’t piss off the fans/media like Bo did, he’ll be given a very long leash (Bo got 7 years even with his behavior).
 
Yes we get Frost. He wins at least 9 next year, and then it’s on from there. My early guess is Frost will have similar to slightly above the success that Bo had (competing for championships). If he does that and doesn’t piss off the fans/media like Bo did, he’ll be given a very long leash (Bo got 7 years even with his behavior).
I agree, but I think next year might be a little rougher than that.
 
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Yes we get Frost. He wins at least 9 next year, and then it’s on from there. My early guess is Frost will have similar to slightly above the success that Bo had (competing for championships). If he does that and doesn’t piss off the fans/media like Bo did, he’ll be given a very long leash (Bo got 7 years even with his behavior).

Michigan, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Ohio State, and Iowa on the road, and Starty at home. If it is Frost, and IF he wins 9, he is a national coach of the year candidate. Even if Nebraska wins all their home games, they could be 7-5.
 
1) I won't believe Frost is our head coach until he is at the podium in North Stadium sitting right next to Billy Moos and Ronnie G. For me, odds are 55-60% he comes home.

2) His offense is run-first and has always been predicated on the run; the scheme is new-school option and inside zone-read and they run it primarily out of shotgun. He learned a LOT from Chip Kelly.

3) His recruiting focus will be much more on kids in Nebraska than previous administrations, and speed on the coasts. I would bet that he would have a line out his door daily for Nebraska kids that want to play for him. If Frost comes home and he relieves WR coach Keith Williams of his job, we won't recruit WR as heavy as we have been.

4) He will get much more of a pass than other candidates because he is a native Nebraskan.
 
3) His recruiting focus will be much more on kids in Nebraska than previous administrations, and speed on the coasts. I would bet that he would have a line out his door daily for Nebraska kids that want to play for him. If Frost comes home and he relieves WR coach Keith Williams of his job, we won't recruit WR as heavy as we have been.
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Disagree with this one. SF runs a ton of 4-5 WR sets and our roster is very thin with WR.
 
He may run a lot of WR sets— and that's why it's rumored that he'd keep KW—but his offense is predicated on the run.

Ok, but why do you think he would recruit fewer WR's? It's not like we have a ton, we only have two on campus from the 2017 class (Lindsey and McQuitty) and one from the 2016 class (Spielman).
 
Ok, but why do you think he would recruit fewer WR's? It's not like we have a ton, we only have two on campus from the 2017 class (Lindsey and McQuitty) and one from the 2016 class (Spielman).

Not saying he would recruit fewer WRs if he coached here, I just think he would try and recruit more ATH type recruits and more RBs, something he will need in his up-tempo offense, especially if he wants to make each game a track meet, which I think he can do here against B1G. That's why I think if he comes here, he will take a serious look at keeping Keith Williams.
 
Not saying he would recruit fewer WRs if he coached here, I just think he would try and recruit more ATH type recruits and more RBs, something he will need in his up-tempo offense, especially if he wants to make each game a track meet, which I think he can do here against B1G. That's why I think if he comes here, he will take a serious look at keeping Keith Williams.
I agree with you about making the game a track meet against the rest of the west. I am a big fan of the job Kieth Williams has done, but Frost OC is also his WR coach, so unless Walters get the HC job at UCF, I think he would come with Frost. I guess they could always have inside WR coach and outside WR coach, like WSU does.
 
My bet is a SF coached team is pretty discipline, tough, doesn't the the turnover much. Fire away
 
IMO, the main myths about Frost coming to Lincoln are:

1) There would be a lot of initial excitement because he is a former player but that honeymoon only lasts for the first year. After that he'll be treated like any other coach. If he wins, he'll be a huge hero. If he fails like Riley did, he won't get any extra consideration by being a former player.

2) Nebraska actually is a more friendly place to coach than many other P5 places. For all of his losses, Riley actually is being treated fairly decent at Nebraska compared with how his peers have been treated at places like Florida and Tennessee.

3) The secret to getting time as a coach at Nebraska is the TREND. If the team is improving year-to-year and from the beginning of a season to the end of a season then any coach is going to be given adequate time to have his program in place. What has torpedoed Riley is the fact that his third year team is worse than the prior two years and getting worse as the season goes on. Clearly when your trend is in that reverse direction, the plug will get pulled early.

4) Nebraska obviously isn't geographically close to the hotbeds of recruiting talent. BUT it also is a myth that Nebraska can't recruit nationally with the right coach. Callahan and Riley both had their share of national recruiting attention/excitement. The key though is that the coach has to win and he has to have a recruiting type personality. They may have to work a little harder but they can get the talent they need. The fan base and game day atmosphere is attractive to many potential recruits.
 
1. Yes I do believe we get him. I believe FL had thrown the checkbook at him and he turned them down. Nebraska is also throwing the checkbook at him.
2. He runs very similar to what he ran at Oregon, fast pased up tempo, run first mentality. He has admitted his first love is the option. So wondering if he would bring that back to an extent when he comes.
3. Guessing he will continue to use the connection he currently has. Plus him coming back to the midwest he should get some from this area as well.
4. He will have much more patience from our fans compared to anywhere else he could go. Just because he is a "home" guy. I also am guessing if he has 2 or 3 years of poor teams and losing records that patience will wear down fast. I think realistically people will give him 4-5 years as long as we are showing progress.
I have not seen anywhere that Florida made an offer to him.
 
]1) Does he take the job? A lot of pressure at Nebraska and a tougher job than it use to be to win.Surprised FLA hasn't thrown the checkbook at him. I'm in the minority but I don't see him coming to NU. He will have his pick of much better job with more pay

2) Havent watched UCF this year, what kind of offense does he run? Is it more of a RO / spread type? They run the Chip Kelly/Oregon offense. Dont run as much as they did at Oregon because they dont have the OL/RBs they did there.

3) IF he ends up at Nebraska where will his recruiting focus be? Seems to have a lot of NW connections and now some FLA connections. NA

4) What kind of rope does he get at Neb? What will the patience of the fanbase be like compared to a Beliema or different hire? Whoever Moos hires should get at least 3 years given how our fanbase acts. Rinse/repeat ,rinse/repeat
 
4) What kind of rope does he get at Neb? What will the patience of the fanbase be like compared to a Beliema or different hire? Whoever Moos hires should get at least 3 years given how our fanbase acts.

Wow don't go out on a limb there.

Every coach since 1956 has been given at least 3 years.

With the exception of Riley, who would have been given more years if his on field results were on par with the talent level in his program.
 
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]1) Does he take the job? A lot of pressure at Nebraska and a tougher job than it use to be to win.Surprised FLA hasn't thrown the checkbook at him. I'm in the minority but I don't see him coming to NU. He will have his pick of much better job with more pay

2) Havent watched UCF this year, what kind of offense does he run? Is it more of a RO / spread type? They run the Chip Kelly/Oregon offense. Dont run as much as they did at Oregon because they dont have the OL/RBs they did there.

3) IF he ends up at Nebraska where will his recruiting focus be? Seems to have a lot of NW connections and now some FLA connections. NA

4) What kind of rope does he get at Neb? What will the patience of the fanbase be like compared to a Beliema or different hire? Whoever Moos hires should get at least 3 years given how our fanbase acts. Rinse/repeat ,rinse/repeat

Only “better” job that will be open is Florida. Maybe he takes that over Nebraska, I hope not. Jobs like Tennessee and aTm are on par with Nebraska, but I can’t see him picking a job like that over us.
 
Only “better” job that will be open is Florida. Maybe he takes that over Nebraska, I hope not. Jobs like Tennessee and aTm are on par with Nebraska, but I can’t see him picking a job like that over us.
I would say him staying and UCF is our only other competition. I don't see him going anywhere but staying their or coming here.
 
nobody will excel in our offense until we find some lineman who can block. not sure how or why but our O line under Cavs has degressed each and every year he has been in charge of them. it's a sad state at that position.
OL has been subpar since Frank’s last couple years. Of course it is always bad coaching. Talent is superb.
 
1) I won't believe Frost is our head coach until he is at the podium in North Stadium sitting right next to Billy Moos and Ronnie G. For me, odds are 55-60% he comes home.

2) His offense is run-first and has always been predicated on the run; the scheme is new-school option and inside zone-read and they run it primarily out of shotgun. He learned a LOT from Chip Kelly.

3) His recruiting focus will be much more on kids in Nebraska than previous administrations, and speed on the coasts. I would bet that he would have a line out his door daily for Nebraska kids that want to play for him. If Frost comes home and he relieves WR coach Keith Williams of his job, we won't recruit WR as heavy as we have been.

4) He will get much more of a pass than other candidates because he is a native Nebraskan.
He passes more than you think. We will definitely go after top WRs with Frost.
 
Wow don't go out on a limb there.

Every coach since 1956 has been given at least 3 years.

With the exception of Riley, who would have been given more years if his on field results were on par with the talent level in his program.
Riley got 3 years as well.
 
I would say him staying and UCF is our only other competition. I don't see him going anywhere but staying their or coming here.
He is not staying at UCF... As much as their fans think he is, the writings on the wall or helmet in this case.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/ucf-central-florida-football-scott-frost-celebrate-win-usf-videos

Frost's players already know he is gone, but the question is where?

If anyone is wondering why I'm awake and posting this late right now, it's because I have a terrible cough that is pissing me off.
 
Michigan, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Ohio State, and Iowa on the road, and Starty at home. If it is Frost, and IF he wins 9, he is a national coach of the year candidate. Even if Nebraska wins all their home games, they could be 7-5.

9 wins ain’t happening next year, sorry. Have you seen the talent??? Put the kool aid down. And to win 7 or 8 games most years isn’t saying much with our cream puff schedule like most years. 3 star slow athletes isn’t going to do it. SF is not a great recruiter, let’s not forget that. There’s a reason he’s not the first choice at true big 5 powers. He’d be another safe, cute, hire here.
 
I think as long as the team plays with emotion and keeps the games close, Any coach will get plenty of rope here. I don't know of any fans of any power program that would want to keep a total train wreck of a coach after giving up 50+points every week. I think we handled it a lot better then other schools have.

When Iowa put up 50+ points on Ohio State there were fans calling for Urban to be fired and that was there first loss.
 
9 wins ain’t happening next year, sorry. Have you seen the talent??? Put the kool aid down. And to win 7 or 8 games most years isn’t saying much with our cream puff schedule like most years. 3 star slow athletes isn’t going to do it. SF is not a great recruiter, let’s not forget that. There’s a reason he’s not the first choice at true big 5 powers. He’d be another safe, cute, hire here.

I’ve never heard then knock that Frost is not a great recruiter. Where are you getting that from? I’ve honestly never heard that about him.
 
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