Frost most likely to be fired
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My god…you do realize that frost was the unanimous choice for our program and the only one who could save us back in 2017. Things haven’t gone to plan but don’t act like Osborne had to beg someone to hire him
lol how funny would that be if that was reality. "Hey Adrian, call a timeout, Analyst hasn't texted me from the booth with the play call, I'm not sure what to do". Wow, that'd be somethin
Now I'm no coach or expert, but I'm willing to bet that's a "walk through" at some point in practice to get the mental reps of the play in.
Not sure one should ever compare Adrian to Peyton, even more so in the passing category. Adrain doesn't deserve to even hold Peyton's clip board let alone his jock strap.
I really didn't want frost, because of stanford, whining about michigan (people knew they were duckin with the ducks), and losing to asu. and way too much passing..
I can't remember who I wanted at the time, tom herman or the csu coach..I forget...
but seeing the decision was made...I'm gonna want him to go ahead and win every game here on out.
not like we used to run....half assen it...
we understand the big dogs had todd blackledges, troy aikmans, bernie kosar's, hypels, mannings, etc...
but that was not our deal......that was not gills or frazier's or frosts or crouch.....
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Only because he wasn't offered. Pollard getting interest from Nebraska was never reported by one credible source, that was a classic case of Pollard and his agent trying to make him look important. That guy would have been out of Ames so quick if Nebraska, or any decent athletic program, actually wanted him.
He probably is due for a bigger job. I suspect his personality is holding him back
I've seen Campbell mentioned several times as a HC candidate if the wheels fall off for Frost. Do we REALLY think he would consider coming to Nebraska?
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Coaches with 16-27 records will and probably SHOULD keep you changing coaches. Don't hang on for the sake of hanging on. If you see something that makes you believe a guy can right the ship or is on the verge of that I get it. BUT if not why bother? Cut your losses and find your next guy.
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I hope their isnt anyone rooting for Frost to fail. That doesn't really make sense. But I hope the powers that be don't subscribe to the "if not Frost than who" theory that some fans have bought into either. I don't care about a big name coach. I don't care about an offensive coordinator or what other schools have to offer. Imo you don't "settle" in a losing situation because you don't know what the future holds. I'll never be ok with that and hope brass feels the same way.
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I just used him as an example of the type of coach we might consider if frost only wins 5 games (or less/yikes).
I suspect frost may have watched some film and come to understand there nothing wrong with martinez, if you use him right (run/pass qb) and don't expect him to become to become dan marino..because all the sudden we have depth at the rb position. (instead of wire legs and 150 lbs rb) this year's play calling should be interesting,
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The issue for me is that most people said 4-5 years and mostly 5 years from former Huskers who watched practice and witnessed the roster up close. We're in year 4. There should have been little excuse for some of the losses these last few years but for me we're at the point where we can start making accurate assessments of on field coaching versus talent available and recruiting.
I'm optimistic that even given this schedule that this could be a turning point for Husker football. The one obvious failure IMO has been QB recruiting to this point and all that took was Gebbia leaving to really screw that up for Frost. IMO, IF Gebbia were available when Martinez got hurt that first year, this whole deal could look a lot different. We would be bitching about only getting 7 wins the last couple of years instead of just praying that we can get to 6 this next one. Luke was a failure. Smothers? Who knows.
Enter the "if we fire Frost, no coach will come here" crowd. And they will be wrong for the umpteenth time.
Money talks. Nebraska (last I checked) is still considered a blue blood program that sells out the stadium and has deep pockets to fund the program and facilities.
I don't think anyone wants Frost to be fired at the end of the season, because that would mean another disappointing year. However, this article is stating that should things continue at the pace we've seen for the first three years, that it might be time to go in a different direction.
My take is that Moos was so tied to Frost's success that he wasn't going to hold Frost accountable for anything, including a dismal vaccination rate. Trev came in and overnight there was an entire new perspective about vaccine and voila, 90% of the team is vaccinated now. This was not meant to get into a political "is vaccine good or bad discussion" - but more so to show an example where Trev means business and Frost quickly followed his direction.
We all think "oh things are different here" but in reality, when you have a program with three losing seasons and a new AD comes to town, that is usually a bad sign for a coach unless things get turned around - quickly.
Money talks. Nebraska (last I checked) is still considered a blue blood program that sells out the stadium and has deep pockets to fund the program and facilities.
I don't think anyone wants Frost to be fired at the end of the season, because that would mean another disappointing year. However, this article is stating that should things continue at the pace we've seen for the first three years, that it might be time to go in a different direction.
My take is that Moos was so tied to Frost's success that he wasn't going to hold Frost accountable for anything, including a dismal vaccination rate. Trev came in and overnight there was an entire new perspective about vaccine and voila, 90% of the team is vaccinated now. This was not meant to get into a political "is vaccine good or bad discussion" - but more so to show an example where Trev means business and Frost quickly followed his direction.
We all think "oh things are different here" but in reality, when you have a program with three losing seasons and a new AD comes to town, that is usually a bad sign for a coach unless things get turned around - quickly.
Especially with his record against Iowa, however his teams are starting to play better against them.
The sad part is that IMO vaccination isn't that big of a deal for a bunch of early 20 somethings. What comes in to play is the protocols you're put through if most of your team isn't vaccinated. We're still going to have guys test positive and have to sit out I'm afraid. We don't enforce protocols for influenza in college athletes but some of the same consequences for the kids and people around them exist. Influenza can cause similar long term health problems like myocarditis and asthma. Why don't we require flu vaccine annually for all college students?
I don't think Trev taking the AD job is anything more than neutral for Frost. IMO, Frost is Trev's guy as much as if he had hired him. Trev no doubt really wants to make this work and he'll do everything he can to see that happens. That said, Trev has a lot more gravitas to make a decision to fire Frost than Moos would have had. Half of Husker fans would have raised hell if Moos ever tried to fire Frost regardless of the record. Trev could do it and the vast majority would say, "well I'm sad it didn't work out".
Think we are kinda saying the same thing. I believe the vaccine is a good thing and the conference does have protocols in place. A forfeited game, has severe economic implications also so I applaud the push.
I also think Trev wants him to succeed. Will do what he can to help him. But Trev will pull the plug if it isn’t working. He’s not as tied to Frost being successful as Moos was.
Moos was just hanging out collecting a check and only doing as much as he was asked to do by the people who hired him. There was not going to be any grand vision for advancement from Moos. Trev I think will make things happen. I do like the fact that he is a Nebraska guy who isn't going to lose his mind if Adrian goes down and we don't get where we want to this year. Barring a complete meltdown, I think Frost has this and next year to prove it.
Last night I was in my driveway when my neighbor from three houses down the street started approaching me. He is a big Washington Husky fan. (Huskies by the way have had too many good quarterbacks on their roster the last several years.) I could tell from 100 feet away he was one too many Bud Lights over the line. He's got a sh-t eating grin on his face and is repeating over and over "Scott Frost, 12-20!". I will say it again, the Huskers need to start winning games.
It's sad to hear Frost might be fired. I really thought he would turn your program around. If the rumors are true about his separation, the best thing he can do is try to save his marriage and focus on his future. He has enough money where he doesn't have to worry about a paycheck I presume.
I will be absolutely stunned if Frost is here for more than a couple years.
If his wife took the kids to Florida, that might explain the lawyer I read about here. She'll most likely end up with the kids. He'll be chasing his kids is my bet if they dont patch things up.
Which would mean he's gone....unless he doesn't mind his kids growing up without him.
I don't think Pelini's teams got any worse. I think they remained about the same thoughout his career. Perhaps the reason they looked worse was due to moving to the B1G and playing tougher competition. That being said, I think the main reason Pelini was fired is because we couldn't get over the 9 win hump.
BS… Pollard is a lifer at ISU and could care less about the train wreck in Lincoln
He doesn’t have and never will have an offer here, but he will leave Ames first time he gets a chance.
Just an outsider taking a look at what used to be Nebraska football. While I was never a fan of Nebraska football, I always respected the program....and admired the strength....I remember two games in particular that left an impression on me...Nebraska v. Oklahoma, The game with Jerry Tagge and Jack Mildren......I was a kid,and remember what a monster game that was....the other was Nebraska annihilating F.lorida to win the Natty. Don't even remember the years...just the power that was Nebraska football. The stadium and fanbase was deemed the most fanatical in college football (see a book called Sports in America). One observation I would offer is this....why in the world would Nebraska join the B10? The B12 was still viable....which is why Texas and Oklahoma were there up until now. I thought that move would result in Nebraska's decline when it happened. Just didn't seem to be the right fit, ever. '
Right now, the Big 12 looks as if fighting for its life, but not necessarily. Maybe Nebraska should consider rejoining, in order to reestablish its tradition, and position of power. With Texas and Oklahoma likely leaving....the BMOC in the B12 is up for grabs, which will continue to be a Power 5 conference...would do well with Nebraska sitting in the catbird seat.
Right now, the Big 12 looks as if fighting for its life, but not necessarily. Maybe Nebraska should consider rejoining, in order to reestablish its tradition, and position of power. With Texas and Oklahoma likely leaving....the BMOC in the B12 is up for grabs, which will continue to be a Power 5 conference...would do well with Nebraska sitting in the catbird seat.
Your last paragraph will never happen… The college football world is changing end of that story..
