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If true, good riddance. You can't take too many chances on low character guys. They are poison. Frosh can be so stupid at times. Stay the course, earn your spot.Fleming is gone, apparently he and Delancy were disciplined for something so they packed their bags and went home.
Manning is saying he is well and will be back next year. I’m sure we will all be surprised if that actually happens.
If true, good riddance. You can't take too many chances on low character guys. They are poison. Frosh can be so stupid at times. Stay the course, earn your spot.
Low character has talent. Great programs can get talent AND high character.Why does this staff continue to recruit “low character guys?”
Transfers from talented kids, especially for a coaching staff that can’t our scheme the opposition is a recipe to continue to lose at a high rate.
The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff is a great read and insight into the mind of many (not all) younger people. They want it easy and they want it now.Cracks me up, I received discipline from a coach for being a tool so I quit. Weak as lambs.
The Coddling of the American Mind by Greg Lukianoff is a great read and insight into the mind of many (not all) younger people. They want it easy and they want it now.
Kids are not leaving the south to come to Nebraska just because it's a nice place to live, they want to play football. If a kid has a discipline issue it's up to the coaches to pinpoint the issue and fix it but not playing a talented kid at all gives him no reason to be here. Might as well go back to the power I and recruit locally if you're going to waist 4* WRs left and right.
Not saying discipline isn't needed but there has to be a better way the coaches can handle the situation. These kids are different and the old N way isn't for them. Scott has to make some adjustments as well if he's going to recruit the south because he can't keep missing on these kids.
it may be why some of these kids chose nebraska. one would think many of these 4 star recruits would have been more heavily recruited but were not actually chased that hard by other top programs. Frost is willing to take the risk when other top programs can just recruit someone else. might explain why we have so many top recruits supposedly spurn better offers for nebraska.Low character has talent. Great programs can get talent AND high character.
I rarely defend Bopeep, but he had a philosophy of recruiting players who were team leaders at their respective winning hs teams. Not a foolproof method, but if a kid from Miami cannot assimilate into the environment at Nebraska, we wasted a scholly, time and resources to try and make it work.
Heck, even a lot of good kids are not mentally tough enough to be away from home. Hard to predict how they'll react.
Spot on.Kids are not leaving the south to come to Nebraska just because it's a nice place to live, they want to play football. If a kid has a discipline issue it's up to the coaches to pinpoint the issue and fix it but not playing a talented kid at all gives him no reason to be here. Might as well go back to the power I and recruit locally if you're going to waist 4* WRs left and right.
Not saying discipline isn't needed but there has to be a better way the coaches can handle the situation. These kids are different and the old N way isn't for them. Scott has to make some adjustments as well if he's going to recruit the south because he can't keep missing on these kids.
Vicious cycle action. You can't build a disciplined team by letting guys break the rules and still get a bunch of PT.Kids are not leaving the south to come to Nebraska just because it's a nice place to live, they want to play football. If a kid has a discipline issue it's up to the coaches to pinpoint the issue and fix it but not playing a talented kid at all gives him no reason to be here. Might as well go back to the power I and recruit locally if you're going to waist 4* WRs left and right.
Not saying discipline isn't needed but there has to be a better way the coaches can handle the situation. These kids are different and the old N way isn't for them. Scott has to make some adjustments as well if he's going to recruit the south because he can't keep missing on these kids.
DISCLAIMER I have no idea if weed has anything to do with him being gone. That said, I suspect that CFB teams are gonna lose TONS of kids for weed unless the NCAA finally decides to stop caring if kids are smoking weed. It's as common to kids today as drinking and tobacco were for us.I really thought we had something with Fleming after the NW game...then he disappeared.
I think this year in particular could be quite a market for transfers, other than perhaps fewer coaching changes due to odd season. I don’t think it’s an ideal way to build a roster, but it may a place to find several replacements.Maybe we can backfill with a couple of good options from the portal.
I read an article a week ago about the large number of players KSU has had transfer mid-season. 10, I think. And aside from an embarrassment in their opener, they got off to a great start in their league by beating OU. Their season has cratered since then. Who knows what drives them away.
Not saying the KSU players are good backfill options for us, but that it is not just a Nebraska problem
There are usually issues when it comes to JC guys. There are reasons for them going JC in the first place.Fleming is gone, apparently he and Delancy were disciplined for something so they packed their bags and went home.
Manning is saying he is well and will be back next year. I’m sure we will all be surprised if that actually happens.
If true, good riddance. You can't take too many chances on low character guys. They are poison. Frosh can be so stupid at times. Stay the course, earn your spot.
Because we aren’t winning? There is plenty of evidence that we have some coaches of low quality, but I see nothing that indicated we have coaches with low character.At some point maybe the coaches need to be looked at in the low character department......
Hard work beats talent when talent won't work hard. Talented players sometimes like to rely on their own skills and are unwilling to refine them through hard work. They cheat themselves and their teammates. There are no shortcuts. Alabama gets the most talented players in the country every year. do you suppose they are also not the hardest working? Surely you understand this.I have not read the book and I am not young but why would you not want it easy and now?
If you had two choices or two paths (yeah yeah, the road less traveled) why would you not take the one that is easy and has faster results?
If you could move up faster in your career by picking an easier path, you would surely do it.
These guys get 4-5 years to play college football, then it is gone forever. If they hate it or feel left out or don't see a path that leads them to where they hope to go, why would they not explore other options?
Shit, most of us are at work every single day, looking for new/better jobs online.
I don't fault anyone for looking to improve things for themselves.
Now...if THEY are the cause of their own issues that is a bit of a different story.
Because we aren’t winning? There is plenty of evidence that we have some coaches of low quality, but I see nothing that indicated we have coaches with low character.
Hard work beats talent when talent won't work hard. Talented players sometimes like to rely on their own skills and are unwilling to refine them through hard work. They cheat themselves and their teammates. There are no shortcuts. Alabama gets the most talented players in the country every year. do you suppose they are also not the hardest working? Surely you understand this.
DISCLAIMER I have no idea if weed has anything to do with him being gone. That said, I suspect that CFB teams are gonna lose TONS of kids for weed unless the NCAA finally decides to stop caring if kids are smoking weed. It's as common to kids today as drinking and tobacco were for us.
I'm not a fan of weed. It will prolly be legal everywhere soon enough. That's inevitable. But I've seen from personal experience that it has ruined many kids because it kills motivation. Very few kids carry a flask around, but quite a few have a vape pen or one-hitter in their pocket that they utilize day and night. You've got to be clear headed to study, practice, concentrate, and learn. If they could limit their use to the weekends, that would be one thing, but most start to use it habitually to relieve stress. It's a gentle sort of abuse. I've seen it up close several times among non athletes. Wake and bake.The level of stupidity ... it's not the weed, it's what comes with it. And I know you think everyone who smokes weed is of high character, guess what, you're wrong.
If that coach is 1-4 and trending in the wrong direction, why would you take discipline from him? Sucking is one thing, but Frost never puts his foot down and let's players do whatever the heck they want when they're here. When a player is used to that, of course he's going to bounce if even the slightest thing doesn't go his way. That's the type of culture Frost is instilling in these kids.Cracks me up, I received discipline from a coach for being a tool so I quit. Weak as lambs.
Fleming has been playing, so I don't think that's the issue.Kids are not leaving the south to come to Nebraska just because it's a nice place to live, they want to play football. If a kid has a discipline issue it's up to the coaches to pinpoint the issue and fix it but not playing a talented kid at all gives him no reason to be here. Might as well go back to the power I and recruit locally if you're going to waist 4* WRs left and right.
Not saying discipline isn't needed but there has to be a better way the coaches can handle the situation. These kids are different and the old N way isn't for them. Scott has to make some adjustments as well if he's going to recruit the south because he can't keep missing on these kids.
What a bunch of nonsense. If the team isn’t winning the players shouldn’t “accept” discipline from the coach? Come on.If that coach is 1-4 and trending in the wrong direction, why would you take discipline from him? Sucking is one thing, but Frost never puts his foot down and let's players do whatever the heck they want when they're here. When a player is used to that, of course he's going to bounce if even the slightest thing doesn't go his way. That's the type of culture Frost is instilling in these kids.
every school is has an increase in transfersWhat a bunch of nonsense. If the team isn’t winning the players shouldn’t “accept” discipline from the coach? Come on.
Or great programs know how to manage their low character guys a lot better. And they behave themselves because they know they'll be kicked off the team if they don't. And even if they do have to kick a few bad apples out, they don't miss a beat because they have a ton of other guys buying in and playing hard.Low character has talent. Great programs can get talent AND high character.
I rarely defend Bopeep, but he had a philosophy of recruiting players who were team leaders at their respective winning hs teams. Not a foolproof method, but if a kid from Miami cannot assimilate into the environment at Nebraska, we wasted a scholly, time and resources to try and make it work.
Heck, even a lot of good kids are not mentally tough enough to be away from home. Hard to predict how they'll react.
And it's a lot easier to take that easy path and do whatever the hell you want when you're in a loser program with a coach that doesn't instill discipline. And you know that coach will never kick you out voluntarily because he's desperate for any shred of talent.I have not read the book and I am not young but why would you not want it easy and now?
If you had two choices or two paths (yeah yeah, the road less traveled) why would you not take the one that is easy and has faster results?
If you could move up faster in your career by picking an easier path, you would surely do it.
These guys get 4-5 years to play college football, then it is gone forever. If they hate it or feel left out or don't see a path that leads them to where they hope to go, why would they not explore other options?
Shit, most of us are at work every single day, looking for new/better jobs online.
I don't fault anyone for looking to improve things for themselves.
Now...if THEY are the cause of their own issues that is a bit of a different story.