Everyone is up in arms b/c a running play should have been called on 3rd down
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I think the point is that Armstrong should have been told with EXTREME EMPHASIS that YOU DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES THROW THE $#%$ BALL there.
And it sure as heck looked like a designed pass play. Again, one of the worst play calls and execution in college football history. Will go down that way.
It wasn't just that one play. How about running the ball more than twice in a row anytime throughout the game? If you are getting 4 and 5 yards a run in a 20+ MPH wind...why not stay with it?
If Armstrong truly passed on his own in that situation, he should be benched for next weeks game. I'm not joking. Until players are held responsible for penalties/ insubordination, things will never improve for this program.
How could anyone even entertain the idea of throwing a pass under those circumstances. A timeout was called the play before that. Why isn't NU going over the clock situation with TA - ensuring he has complete understanding of the situation. If he runs it, NU runs their 4th down play with 15 second left in the game.
Perhaps the world of sports has seen a dumber play than what we witnessed by Nebraska on 3rd and 7 with 55 seconds left - but I can't think of one.
The entire day was a disaster, play-calling wise. Nebraska looks like a stupid, stupid football team. And they got dumber today.
Perhaps the world of sports has seen a dumber play than what we witnessed by Nebraska on 3rd and 7 with 55 seconds left - but I can't think of one.
The entire day was a disaster, play-calling wise. Nebraska looks like a stupid, stupid football team. And they got dumber today.
I just can't fathom how coaches with NFL experience like MR and DL can allow the events of this game to unfold. It is as if they aren't even vaguely aware of coaching basics at times. They seem way too in love with the passing game! I though Beck had trouble with game planning at times, but I doubt he would have allowed that last possession to end with 50 seconds still on the clock!
This is not why the game was lost. This was just the cherry on top
In the presser, First question Riley was asked was, "Why did you throw the ball on 3rd down". His response was something like. " It was a designed run only, we didn't get the support blocking out there and he decided to throw it on his own. It was not a passing play by design"
So Armstrong made that decision
Don't believe that for a second. That play design is a run/pass option. Our back out in the flat even turns around and looks for the ball. Now, he may have wanted Tommy to run and perhaps even communicated that but that is not a "designed running play."
Im down on our coaches to about this game as well but to say Riley is lying about that call being a design run is a little bull headed. The coach has been straight forward and honest about everything about the team and everything evolving the team. He doesn't seem to be the type of coach to toss Armstrong under the buss if it was the coaches fault. Lets be real here.
So you're saying "we just didn't execute"?
I think we're up in arms because our coaching staff keeps finding new ways to choke every week. Our veteran coach lost to an interim coach who didn't even know it was 4th down once. You couldn't make this stuff up.
I think we're up in arms because our coaching staff keeps finding new ways to choke every week. Our veteran coach lost to an interim coach who didn't even know it was 4th down once. You couldn't make this stuff up.
My biggest issue with that play was the fact that the staff didn't call timeout to get things straight on what they wanted to do and emphasize the fact that they wanted him to run the ball, stay in bounds and whatever you do, DON'T THROW THE DAMNED BALL.
they aren't good at their jobs. MR's been involved in football for 40+ years and still let that happen. It's pathetic and inexcusable.
Riley and Langsdorf emphatically stated no pass option. Ozigbo also says he didn't hear the play call well, so your star witness is backtracking or you are intentionally not drawing attention to that. It might be reasonably stated then the coaches called a run, and a true frosh and a jr QB screwed up. Sometimes the best conspiracy, is the simplest.
Edit: Just like everyone else, mystified as to why we didn't run the damn ball more in the previous 59 minutes.
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Actually, everyone is up in arms because for the 3rd time this season, we've lost to a crappy team that we should have beaten.
I saw a screen shot of the play, and it's clear that multiple players think it was a pass play (look at at least one player the OL pass blocking, and Ozigbo looking at Tommy to receive a pass).
It's more of the same crap we've seen the last several years of players making dumb mistakes and coaches making stupid decisions.
This is the result we get with mentally weak players and inept coaches. That is what has everyone up in arms.
I saw a screen shot of the play, and it's clear that multiple players think it was a pass play (look at at least one player the OL pass blocking, and Ozigbo looking at Tommy to receive a pass).
It's more of the same crap we've seen the last several years of players making dumb mistakes and coaches making stupid decisions.
This is the result we get with mentally weak players and inept coaches. That is what has everyone up in arms.
"Said Langsdorf: "We had quarterback sweep. It's a designed run."
Was there any way Armstrong could have believed it was a pass? No, Langsdorf said. It was a run call."
Then you probably have a pretty good idea why he and some of the other backs aren't getting pt
Everyone keeps saying the coaches should of instructed him not to throw on a run play, who throws on a run play???
We hired a 5 win coach. Who's surprised he finds ways to loose games.
It comes down to far more than one play folks. All the dropped balls and the same issues the team has had all year. Hell, how about the muffed punt by what was suppose to be the best player on the entire team???
Better focus on next year starting tomorrow because
If it doesn't change by next year its over for everyone involved. Being a nice guy is great but nobody keeps a job if you don't win.
Sorry, I should probably bite my tongue till tomorrow but I am just now getting to vent and well I may have taken a little bit of a sip because that loss is the most depressing as a husker fan has had in a long time (i missed the wis. game last year because my aunt passed that day).
Better focus on next year starting tomorrow because
If it doesn't change by next year its over for everyone involved. Being a nice guy is great but nobody keeps a job if you don't win.
Sorry, I should probably bite my tongue till tomorrow but I am just now getting to vent and well I may have taken a little bit of a sip because that loss is the most depressing as a husker fan has had in a long time (i missed the wis. game last year because my aunt passed that day).
Just amazing isn't it? That a coach who has been average to below average no matter where he has gone in his career is still below average at Nebraska? Not sure why so many were brainwashed that this guy would some come in here at be a championship winning coach. Its called common sense people. The best predictor of future is past
Well it sounds like our rb and others that it was a pass play. Also our OC or HC not sure which said if it did not get a first down we were going tor punt or try a field goal on 4th, instead we ran another pass play.
Sorry but it's on Tommy Armstrong. He's the QB of the team. It's his third year as starter. He's 21 now? 22? Been playing QB his whole life. Only one person in the stadium starts that 3rd down snap with the ball and has control of the play. Do you want to win the game with 55 seconds left and the opponent has 0 timeouts? If you want to win, you run the bootleg and slide down if nothing is there. Period. That's what you do if you're a winner. If you're a clown with absolutely no football sense, you "throw" the ball there. I use the word "throw" lightly because whatever Tommy did to advance the football on that play was far from a "throw."
When Jake Locker went 5-19 against us in the bowl 5 years ago, everybody wanted to laugh at his numbers and question his NFL potential. Well, he managed the game and beat us because he wanted to win! That's what winning QBs do, even when the numbers don't look good on paper. Until we RECRUIT a winner at QB, we will not win anything of substance. You can't recruit midseason so buy your liquor on sale midweek this season and buckle down.
When Jake Locker went 5-19 against us in the bowl 5 years ago, everybody wanted to laugh at his numbers and question his NFL potential. Well, he managed the game and beat us because he wanted to win! That's what winning QBs do, even when the numbers don't look good on paper. Until we RECRUIT a winner at QB, we will not win anything of substance. You can't recruit midseason so buy your liquor on sale midweek this season and buckle down.
How can you run a bootleg with 2 people in your face before you turn around.
The play call was stupid.
Maybe if the OL coaching didn't suck so bad the play might have worked but yeah lets blame our QB that has to run for his life.
And yes you give instruction to a player every play its called coaching. Especially at the end of games you guys, duh!
The play call was stupid.
Maybe if the OL coaching didn't suck so bad the play might have worked but yeah lets blame our QB that has to run for his life.
And yes you give instruction to a player every play its called coaching. Especially at the end of games you guys, duh!
sorry suhrreal, you're wrong. Tommy might be stupid for throwing it, but the coaches obviously did not make it clear to Tommy (OR TO THE OTHER PLAYERS WHO WERE OBVIOUSLY LOOKING FOR PASS) that he was to run the ball NO MATTER WHAT.
Even then, they should have handed the ball off. Don't over-think this crap. It also bothers me that Langs is lying because it was most obviously not a "QB sweep". Everyone blocks on QB sweeps. Liar.
Even then, they should have handed the ball off. Don't over-think this crap. It also bothers me that Langs is lying because it was most obviously not a "QB sweep". Everyone blocks on QB sweeps. Liar.
Tommy wasn't running for his life when he gagged on that hairball yesterday. He wasn't running for his life in OT against Miami either. In both situations, he panicked and flat out blew it.
If you're the QB of a major D-I program with 3 years of starts under your belt, with 55 seconds left and your opponent has 0 timeouts left, and it's 3rd down...
There's a reason why QBs are called game managers. TA blew it, period.
All of this under the assumption that you want to win, of course. It's the winning part that is key. Most QBs salivate at the chance to slide there and show that they understand the dynamics of the game. Others might try to milk an extra completion in or extra stats or extra cash, whatever.
It should've been a direct snap one where you just simply hands off the ball not one where I could fall apart and feels the need to dump it went with an instinct the kids basically a teenager
Or just kneel it
So, are you saying that it would have been better if the coach took a time out and said to Tommy, "you know that running play that I just called, I really really, really mean it is a running play and I really, really, really mean the you should run and really, really, really not pass"?
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