Eichorst bandwagon
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His future rests on the backs of Mike Riley and Tim Miles next year. If they have breakthrough seasons, he will look like a genius. If they both have another mediocre season, he will be run out of town.
If he had anything to do with the firings of Read and Banker, and the hiring of Diaco, then I'm a SE fan.
I don't think he will be run out of town next year if Riley has a mediocre season. Both he and Riley would be here at least one more season after that, maybe two.
Maybe just maybe, no one wanted the job.
Maybe just maybe, there's not enough $$ available for Nebraska to get a BIG NAME coach here?
If/when Nebraska makes a change, we might have to take a leap of faith and go completely out of the box. Maybe an internatonal guy who played college ball like a Chris Harriman? What does this program have to lose but more games?
Maybe just maybe, there's not enough $$ available for Nebraska to get a BIG NAME coach here?
If/when Nebraska makes a change, we might have to take a leap of faith and go completely out of the box. Maybe an internatonal guy who played college ball like a Chris Harriman? What does this program have to lose but more games?
I wouldn't be too sure. Hank Bounds and Ronnie Green are much more tuned into what's going on in the athletic department than Harvey ever was. They won't settle for mediocrity.
I saw a show about an autistic woman who worked at a large hospital for 35 years making salads. She put two cherry tomatoes and a cucumber slice on each salad. The hospital decided to save money by putting one cherry tomato and two cucumber slices on each salad. The change caused her to have a nervous breakdown. I felt real sorry for her.
If Nebraska ever develops a really good BB team, I fear the change might cause all kinds of mental health problems across our great state.
If Nebraska ever develops a really good BB team, I fear the change might cause all kinds of mental health problems across our great state.
It will be like a college basketball version of The Man in the High Castle. Kansas fans will root passionately for any team we face in the NCAA Tournament, and Jayskers will be confined to internment camps.
Maybe it depends on your definition of "mediocre." Mine is 8-4 regular season.
This is correct. If football tanks then Riley gets another year but nobody would want Shawn around hiring the next football coach. He has to go first.
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I am amazed at the instant gratification mind set on this board and in society in general these days?!?
Basketball: Tim Miles gave you what you wanted in year two with his transfers, and everyone was absolutely pumped about Miles. He gave you your instant gratification and now look where we are. He has proven he can make it here, but all of his recruits were Freshman and Sophomore's. Some of you just think we can wave a magic wand and everything will just be fixed. We could get Coach K here and we wouldn't win right away.
I know we went 12-18, but look at the teams we beat Maryland, Indiana (Before the injuries), and Purdue. When this team wanted it they took it. Say what ever you want, but firing a coach is not always the right answer. If you deeper into the basketball situation you can see the potential, but all you see is the 12 wins. I will be on board next year with the firing of Tim Miles if he goes sub .500, but until then I am not upset that he was retained and given a chance to coach the kids he recruited as upper classmen
Football: Can a coach get more then 3 years? That is all I got.
Basketball: Tim Miles gave you what you wanted in year two with his transfers, and everyone was absolutely pumped about Miles. He gave you your instant gratification and now look where we are. He has proven he can make it here, but all of his recruits were Freshman and Sophomore's. Some of you just think we can wave a magic wand and everything will just be fixed. We could get Coach K here and we wouldn't win right away.
I know we went 12-18, but look at the teams we beat Maryland, Indiana (Before the injuries), and Purdue. When this team wanted it they took it. Say what ever you want, but firing a coach is not always the right answer. If you deeper into the basketball situation you can see the potential, but all you see is the 12 wins. I will be on board next year with the firing of Tim Miles if he goes sub .500, but until then I am not upset that he was retained and given a chance to coach the kids he recruited as upper classmen
Football: Can a coach get more then 3 years? That is all I got.
Over .500 is the goal next year? Yeah....no. Also, the injury excuse doesn't really fly with me. We went 11-13 when Ed Morrow provided minutes. Anton Gill? Sure, he would have provided minutes and some rest for our guards...but, he was shooting 27% from the field at the time of his injury. Lastly, it's true...we were young this year...as was the majority of the conference. It's going to take far more than just another year experience for our roster. It's pretty clear we struggled in the X's and O's department on both sides of the court. Some offseason adjustments will need to be made or I'm afraid next year we will once again be talking about how we look lost on offense and our defensive rotations are atrocious.
Like I said I was already resigned to Miles being back next year. But someone will have to explain to me why the people who want Miles fired now are impatient, unreasonable, unrealistic AND epitomize the very reason that society is going to Hell in a handbasket - but next year? Well yeah, if things go south next year, then he's gotta go...
There's really that much difference between canning a guy after year 5 and canning him after year 6, that it separates the awful fans from the ever-so-patient SuperFans?
There's really that much difference between canning a guy after year 5 and canning him after year 6, that it separates the awful fans from the ever-so-patient SuperFans?
Losing Morrow hurt BUT Ed is limited by his size and offensive skills (dribbling and shooting). In a better world, Ed is an energy guy off the bench, not a guy playing major minutes. Love the kid's work ethic and energy but he just has limits. I don't think there is any question that at the very least we need to replace one assistant. To be fair, Gill was playing better when he got hurt. Our problem is that every guy other than Roby IMO, has holes in their games. Jordy has tremendous upside and I think Watson will get more consistent. We need the newcomers to come in a take minutes from some of our marginal contributors.
And he will if has any success in the next 3-5 years when Alvarez is going to retire.
I get your point, but the problem for me is that I can't name one thing that Miles' teams have done consistently well. Offense, defense, turnovers, rebounding, halftime adjustments - we have not been good or improved much in any of these areas over the last few years. We supposedly have as much talent as we've ever had, yet still finished at the bottom of the conference in what was considered a down year.
First, It is obvious that you are looking for points to argue, but I stopped reading after what I highlighted. I was talking about Indiana's injuries
I read that as we beat Maryland and Indiana before our injuries so that was my bad. But, there is no sugar coating it. This year was another disaster. We have gone 6-23 in the second half of the Big Ten the past three years. You stated if you dive deeper into the basketball situation you can see the potential...can you expand on this? I'm really struggling envisioning us as a tournament team next year without some major changes on both ends of the court.
If you mean that Gill had one serviceable game against Southern before his injury, that is true. In the five games prior to that one, he shot 23% (5-for-22) from the field and had a grand, five-game total of 6 rebounds and 2 assists. This does not include his 1-for-10 performance against UCLA, which came a bit earlier.
The Good
I saw a ton of development out of a couple players
Jordy Tshimanga: He will be a force for us next year
Evan Taylor: The kid is starting to find his shot, and that does nothing but help us
Then I also see a bright future for Isaiah Roby. He just needs to get stronger.
The Knowns
Glynn Watson: definitely got figured out towards the end of the year, but he is a very good basketball player
Ed Morrow: can ball, and before his injury proves it
The Future
Nana: is looking like the Illinois POY right now
Copeland: is the 1st 5* talent we have ever had on our roster
The Meh
Michael Jacobson: needs to stick to what he is good at, and that is offensive rebounds, and let that be his game. When he tries to do to much it hurts the team
Jeriah Horne: can shoot the rock and can rebound at a high rate, but every other facet of his game needs a lot of work
The Unknowns
James Palmer: I know nothing about this kid and don't have much to say, but I hope he helps with out outside shooting
Anton Gill: Can he come around, the jury is still out but I am a little skeptical
I like what SE has done with our football program. Got rid of Pelini, ponied up for top-shelf assistants, investing in recruiting. As for BB, I think it was probably time for Miles to go, but I can live with giving him another year. If nothing else, he is bringing in talent for the next guy.
Instant gratification? He's been here 5 years and he's record @ NU is 75-86!!! He's 146-174 in his last ten years of coaching? Instant gratification? Really? Maybe your definition of instant gratification is different then mine. I don't think expecting the program to be doing well after 5 years is asking too much. But here we are. 4 out of 5 years of losing seasons and year two wasn't that great.
A major part of the magic in season 2 was because there was promise for the future. Now having hindsight, that was all false hope. His teams went 41-55 after year two. No post season basketball. Every year below .500. All 3 seasons at the bottom of the B1G.
Do you realize Doc Sadler had 1 losing season in his time @ NU? Do you realize 101-89 as a coach here? Compared to Miles, Doc looks like freaking Larry Brown. Give me a break "instant gratification".
Why? Will that make Bo Pelini return?? # getoverit
