Ducks working harder than Huskers
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Not as hard as iowa.
I hear it's a bloodbath over there.
I hear it's a bloodbath over there.
During Callahan's tenure I remember a quote from a player who described their new workouts as "dancing with the devil". We know how that ended.
Translation, they might want to dial it back a notch. Sounds counter productive.
Translation, they might want to dial it back a notch. Sounds counter productive.
I think some new coaches try the hard-ass approach, set the tone and see who they can get to leave.
Get in or get out. When you see false effort on the field, it usually goes hand in hand with starters telling the scout team to dial it back in practice so that they don't look bad. And judging by past results, I would bet this happened at Oregon a lot. So you've got to purge that cancer from the system-- reform the attitude or get them to quit.
Yeah, I can understand that. But being able to workout hard or not, to the point that you end up in the hospital, really doesn't have to do with effort/cancer, in fact, you could argue that the guys that ended up in the hospital were trying even harder during the workouts than any of the other players and that is why they ended up in the hospital.
So now, maybe you just put your 3 hardest working players in the hospital.
I actually had rhabdo last October. Went into the hospital the night of the Indiana game. It's no joke. I almost died. My pee looked like coffee. In my personal experience with Rhabdo, I had no one left to blame but myself. Worked out hard the night before. Drank a half bottle of vodka at a party after the work out. Woke up the next morning, ran 3 miles. Went to work for 6 hours. Came home and felt like shit & couldn't move. Started pissing black and wife took me to the ER. During that whole 24 hours, I never drank water.
That's what caused Rhabdo for me and most people. Dehydration along with working out. Wouldn't surprise me if these 3 kids partied the night before this crazy workout and were not hydrating during the work out. Got to listen to your body. Got to keep drinking water during the workout. If the strength coaches do not understand that, they have no right doing what they are doing and should be fired. I don't care if they are trying to weed out the weak. This isn't 1954 in Junction City Texas. We aren't that stupid anymore.
That's what caused Rhabdo for me and most people. Dehydration along with working out. Wouldn't surprise me if these 3 kids partied the night before this crazy workout and were not hydrating during the work out. Got to listen to your body. Got to keep drinking water during the workout. If the strength coaches do not understand that, they have no right doing what they are doing and should be fired. I don't care if they are trying to weed out the weak. This isn't 1954 in Junction City Texas. We aren't that stupid anymore.
Very true. There are many ways to do that type of thing. Over training is not the way to go. I also wonder sometimes about supplements, medications and the role that some of those things play in all of this. There was a track high school athlete a few years ago who died in the heat after consuming too much sports drink and not enough water.
Yeah, I could not disagree more with the "You guys are too soft" argument being bandied about. That particular condition is brought about by pushing yourself too hard too fast (I believe its caused by a combination of dehydration and internal bleeding from muscle tears). Another common injury from over-exertion (I did a lot of CrossFit and learned about sports injuries from over-exertion that way) is the one where your deep tissue muscles start separating from their bones, which is also horribly painful and crippling.
In my mind, if this is happening, the workouts are not well thought out and the coaches are stupid. You can easily get good results and have strong, tough players without almost killing them. To swing the example back to the military, in that environment, people wash out and medical conditions become known due to the stress, but the U.S. government (and, in this case, the University of Oregon) is investing a lot of time and money in the individual to make them physically great; if your program is causing these kinds of injuries, you're wasting time and money, and you're hurting people. Stupid, if you ask me.
In my mind, if this is happening, the workouts are not well thought out and the coaches are stupid. You can easily get good results and have strong, tough players without almost killing them. To swing the example back to the military, in that environment, people wash out and medical conditions become known due to the stress, but the U.S. government (and, in this case, the University of Oregon) is investing a lot of time and money in the individual to make them physically great; if your program is causing these kinds of injuries, you're wasting time and money, and you're hurting people. Stupid, if you ask me.
I'd love to see those hospital reports. Same with Iowa's from a few years back. I'm guessing the "supplements" being used played a part in these ordeals. I'm anticipating Oregon will be a bit bigger when we see them this fall...
Back when I was a kid, you weren't done in Oregon until you died of dysentery.
Oregon just suspended strength coach for one month without pay.
Oh sure, you just had to go the 10/10 instead of the tried and true 9/10, didn't you?
