Feel bad for the kid. Don't feel one bit bad for the stupid stinkin' herkies though.
Drew Ott appeal denied by the NCAA
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He played in 6 of their games, which exceeds the maximum 30% allowed by the NCAA to get a medical hardship waiver. But Iowa argued that he played limited snaps in several other games due to injury.
It seems to me that the NCAA made the right decision on the merits-if he was injured, he shouldn't have played at all. The rules are pretty clear that playing one snap in a game counts as participation in that game. But they should have made a ruling on the case much quicker and not left him hanging for so long.
It seems to me that the NCAA made the right decision on the merits-if he was injured, he shouldn't have played at all. The rules are pretty clear that playing one snap in a game counts as participation in that game. But they should have made a ruling on the case much quicker and not left him hanging for so long.
NCAA screwed the pooch on this one simply by dangling the carrot and preventing his participation in the combine.
It sucks for Ott, but it's the right decision. That would be like DPE getting one for this year. Just isn't going to happen. But there is no reason why it should have been delayed this long. He should have known in February.
Jim Harbaugh should have come out in support of him months ago. The NCAA would have ruled against him faster.
They had more pressing issues to deal with these last couple of months, like keeping the SEC happy.
He did participate in the Combine -- although he was limited by injury -- and he will be in the 2016 Draft. This latest rejection was his second, so nothing was dangled.
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He was rejected three different times, by the NCAA, B1G, and a D1 athletics board. Iowa had a slight argument, but the NCAA made the correct call. He just had crappy luck by getting injured late in the years. If they would have given him an extra year it would have opened a door for alot of others. Would have been great to have him back.
There may have been some more intramural violations from soldiers returning from combat, to investigate.
Barfnecht's article in today's OWH is just plain stupid (not the interest parts about Ott as a person - that is fine, I have a lot of respect for him, but just the half-ass attempt to blame the NCAA). Where is there a double standard? If anything, barf is whining because the NCAA did NOT apply a double standard. Last I saw, there is no "good guy" exception to the medical redshirt rule. I haven't seen anything that remotely suggested the NCAA misled him on at all.
The rule is very clear in the maximum number of games that he could have participated in and still be eligible for medical redshirt for the year. The rule is also very clear that playing one play is participating in a game. I have not ever seen any consideration given because a guy played in a limited number of snaps during a game in which he participated. Ferentz knew the rules at the time they elected to have Ott continue playing despite the arm injury. In hind sight, it was the wrong decision - but the NCAA had nothing to do with that. Had they shut him down prior to playing in 30% of the games, he would have received the medical redshirt, and wouldn't have been playing at Illinois to blow out his ACL. Ferentz couldn't have seen that coming, of course, and it is unfortunate. But, many kids get hurt more than 30% into the season and they don't get a do-over. Ott isn't any more deserving of an exception or double standard being applied in his favor than anyone else.
The rule is very clear in the maximum number of games that he could have participated in and still be eligible for medical redshirt for the year. The rule is also very clear that playing one play is participating in a game. I have not ever seen any consideration given because a guy played in a limited number of snaps during a game in which he participated. Ferentz knew the rules at the time they elected to have Ott continue playing despite the arm injury. In hind sight, it was the wrong decision - but the NCAA had nothing to do with that. Had they shut him down prior to playing in 30% of the games, he would have received the medical redshirt, and wouldn't have been playing at Illinois to blow out his ACL. Ferentz couldn't have seen that coming, of course, and it is unfortunate. But, many kids get hurt more than 30% into the season and they don't get a do-over. Ott isn't any more deserving of an exception or double standard being applied in his favor than anyone else.
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Iowa's argument was more along the line that Drew only played in 37 games in his 4 years at Iowa with no redshirt season. That is barely 3 years worth of games. By comparison Tommy Armstrong has played in 34 games so far with another 12-14 games this year and had a redshirt season. Iowa dose take some of the blame for pulling the redshirt late in his freshman year but you have guys getting 6th year granted and Drew was in and out the door at Iowa in 4 years.
Last I knew medical redshirts weren't based on careers, but dealt with one season specifically. Please enlighten if that is not the case. Each case is also individually analyzed. I fail to see what a guy did here w 6 yrs has any coorelation to Ott's situation.
Snap % for last yr for Ott does fit in the less than 30% rule. However that rule is for games played in, not snaps...
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Snap % for last yr for Ott does fit in the less than 30% rule. However that rule is for games played in, not snaps...
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I think the NCAA made the call that it needed. Not upset by it. But the story of a guy from OSU that was granted a 6th year after playing in 30.77% of OSU's games. He was suspended for drugs, not an unfortunate injury.
He sucks as a writer. I will not, and have not for many years, read anything written by him.
As much as I like Ferentz, he and his staff made poor choices on Ott and are at least partly responsible for his career including so few games. Of course he doesn't deserve another year.
This was about the stupidest article ever. When are they going to put ole Barf-boy down? On what planet should the NCAA have given him an extra year? And boo hoo hoo Ferentz. Punishing him for trying to play though an injury? You are supposed to take that into consideration when you decide to play him or not. You don't get it both ways. Sometimes we guess wrong. Life can sometimes suck like that. Most of us learn that as little kids.
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