Do you think you guys need to start recruiting a different kind of player?

[hawkit3113]

I know you guys always seem to take the most talented players, but sometimes it seems like they aren't system guys. Just really talented.


Am I off base here?

 

[redwine65]

if we are going to pass we need a passing qb, defiantly

 

[SilentCommit]

I know you guys always seem to take the most talented players, but sometimes it seems like they aren't system guys. Just really talented.


Am I off base here?

You're on point, to be sure. We need to recruit some Quarterbacks and Wide Receivers from hurricane states, like Florida and Louisiana. Or maybe windy cities, like, uh, Chicago. Yep.

 

[kaz36]

We need to recruit depth. We haven't had a problem getting some talented players here, we have had issues with filling all positions. Competition at every position creates depth and makes players reach their potential.

 

[Marine8365]

We need to recruit depth. We haven't had a problem getting some talented players here, we have had issues with filling all positions. Competition at every position creates depth and makes players reach their potential.

Yep, depth is what we seem to be lacking.....

 

[hawkit3113]

I think there has been system issues that were never addressed by Bo, and has carried over. Even from Callahan. I am not sure Nebraska has totally set or committed to a style of play.

On another board, a question was presented about the option and whether it would still work. Kinda like what GT does, but with a more efficient passer. One poster who played football at Texas was pretty confident that the option can and would work in college football. With the type of athletes Nebraska has recruited and currently has, I think it could work in Lincoln. But Rielly is committed to more of a pro style.

Whats going on at Nebraska reminds me a lot of what happened at Michigan. 3 different coaches, recruiting 3 different kinds of players that fit their system. And each having to use players that didn't fit their system.

Carr recruited power football players that played a pro style.

Rich Rod takes those guys and try's to run a spread. Not going to work and it didn't. So he recruits scat backs and smaller faster players.

Hoke, wanted to play tradition Michigan football, but had smaller, faster players from the Rich Rod regime that weren't going to work.

My point, is at some point, a commitment to a style will be the key. Get those types of players for a certain system, and success will ensue.

 

[huskerbux]

if we are going to pass we need a passing qb, defiantly

I'd say we already have a couple defiant players. (sorry, had to)

 

[nebcountry]

I know you guys always seem to take the most talented players, but sometimes it seems like they aren't system guys. Just really talented.

Am I off base here?

Sometimes it seems one REALLY good player elevates the team (i.e. Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota). So if everything else is going well, the team can be great. If Beathard is exceptional, then he could elevate your team. I'm not saying Iowa will be great, you guys may not have the supporting cast.

We've (NU) been mired in problems for so long, fielding a team that is at least competent in all areas seems almost impossible. I think that figured in to the allure for Riley (at least perception wise). Maybe he could make us competent in all areas, and we could excel in some areas.

System guys. I would say a qb needs to fit the system. RB and OLine to some degree. WR, I suppose if they are going to take handoffs. Recruiting looks to have some "crapshoot" factor to it in terms of attrition and who gets better at the higher level of college play. Excluding the qb and any "project" players, aren't you recruiting the most talented players to play?

 

[hawkit3113]

Sometimes it seems one REALLY good player elevates the team (i.e. Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota). So if everything else is going well, the team can be great. If Beathard is exceptional, then he could elevate your team. I'm not saying Iowa will be great, you guys may not have the supporting cast.

We've (NU) been mired in problems for so long, fielding a team that is at least competent in all areas seems almost impossible. I think that figured in to the allure for Riley (at least perception wise). Maybe he could make us competent in all areas, and we could excel in some areas.

System guys. I would say a qb needs to fit the system. RB and OLine to some degree. WR, I suppose if they are going to take handoffs. Recruiting looks to have some "crapshoot" factor to it in terms of attrition and who gets better at the higher level of college play. Excluding the qb and any "project" players, aren't you recruiting the most talented players to play?

To your last sentence, yes, to a certain extent. But in our situation, we are looking to develop guys. KF is really heavy on red shirting and getting these guys developed into Jr and Sr starters. Now, there are those rare occasions where a kid is so good he has to play, but no very often with us. I would say we are very system orientated.

We tried the talent thing after the 2005 Cap One bowl when we had a top 10 recruiting class and got burned. KF is very heavy on recruiting needs. So much that I am not sure he puts the highest premium on talent.

We are two different types of programs. Nebraska will always get better talent than us, most years. And I think at times it makes it harder when it comes to making personal decisions, styles of play, and keeping those recruiting pipelines open. I am not sure how some really talented kids would feel about red shirting at Iowa.

 

[nebcountry]

The pelini recruiting argument when condensed down goes something like this: recruiting at the highest level of effort may only land a couple or no top recruits. So, why even try, I'll just pick the low hanging fruit. It may not be the best, or a perfect fit, but it's the easiest. I don't think that's a good argument for college coaches that are making multi-millions. The argument fits coaches that don't want to work harder and are content at whatever level of success they are experiencing.

No matter the size of the recruiting area, coaches are going to try to get recruits they think can play and have upside potential. That's a statement of the obvious. The question is how hard are the coaches willing to work to get the recruit that looks to have All-American upside potential versus the recruit that will fill a role.

Redshirting en masse is a holdover from 1970's and earlier. You redshirt a recruit that's not ready to play (knowledge, physical attributes, etc.). It would be hard for me to imagine a coach that would rather take a player that will need 3 or 4 years to develop (if they develop at all, i.e. the "crapshoot") versus the recruit that can play "right now" and is showing playtime ability (and "right now" could be next year).

I think KF underachieves, but you guys are the ones 5 - 0 right now, so what do I know.