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Chatelain: How could everyone be so wrong about the 2019 Huskers? Ask the coach
“Year 2 is when it’s gonna take off around here. And taking off doesn’t mean we’re gonna go undefeated, but we’ll be a really good team in two years.” — Scott Frost, April 2018

“We’ll be competing for our side in Year 2. I don’t know if we’ll win it. Then it just goes up from there.” — Frost, July 2018

“We aren’t that far away and I know how much better we can get.” — Frost, November 2018

“We’re ... miles ahead of where we were a year ago. ... I think we’ll surprise people with how much better we get and how quickly it happens.” — Frost, February 2019

Maybe Scott Frost talked a big game because he’d just come off a miraculous turnaround at UCF — 0-12 to 13-0 in two years. You’d be a little cocky, too.

Maybe he felt the immense pressure to restore Nebraska pride ASAP. He wanted to make his family and friends and former teammates and Tom Osborne feel the joys of winning again. You’d crave that feeling, too.


But as you’re trying to figure out how almost everyone could be SO wrong about Nebraska football in 2019, stop blaming the national media who picked NU for the Top 25. Stop blaming the Big Ten media who picked NU to win the West. Stop blaming the local media who gave you 19 stories to read every day in the offseason, almost all of them optimistic. Stop blaming Husker Kool-Aid drinkers who fall into the same trap every offseason, thinking that only their team lifted weights and recruited playmakers.

You know why everyone thought Nebraska had turned the corner in 2019? Because Frost said so!

I’m not rubbing his nose in it. I’m merely pointing out that outsiders got Nebraska wrong because the insiders got Nebraska wrong.

Frost, as it turned out, dramatically overstated his team’s prospects. He’s the homebuilder who promised he’d be painting your walls in six months and it turns out he’s still framing.

Husker fans can still be happy with the house someday. Perhaps even by the time they pack for Dublin. But, man, stop telling your friends that we should’ve seen these struggles coming and start recognizing that Frost himself set a high bar for Year 2. And we listened to him because of his past success. He carried immense credibility into this job. He knew what good football looked like and he knew how to rebuild a program.

Now the 2018 Peach Bowl feels like a decade ago.

Does it mean Frost is the wrong man for the job? Of course not. He can still fulfill all the Husker hopes he inspired.

But based on what’s happened this season, it’s fair to question his (and his staff’s) evaluation of the program. This was harder than he thought.

Back in February, Frost relayed a story at a luncheon that his trusted strength coach, Zach Duval, had made this statement about Huskers in the weight room: “Old Nebraska is almost back.”

Back in July, Frost stated that he wouldn’t trade Adrian Martinez for any quarterback in the country.

Some of this stuff is just what coaches say, obviously. Nobody wants a leader who walks around with his head down, muttering, “Gee, I just hope we’re competent, but I don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see.”

This is football, not world diplomacy. It’s OK to puff up your players. It’s OK to beat your chest.

But when you’re wondering why we had such outsized expectations for the Huskers this fall — I predicted 8-4 — remember the source of optimism.

Then ask yourself this question: If the November 2018 Huskers were playing the October 2019 Huskers, who would win? It’s last year’s team by double figures, right?

That wasn’t supposed to happen. Departing senior Jerald Foster said this after last year’s Iowa game: “This is an offense that’s going to be top 10, easily, next season.”

Instead, the Huskers rank 76th in total yards and 90th in scoring.

Where’s the player development? Where’s the growth up front? Over and over since joining the Big Ten, Husker coaching staffs have believed they could A) fight to a draw in the trenches and B) expose opponents on the edge. Over and over, we’ve realized that Nebraska wasn’t close in the trenches. And any advantage on the perimeter means nothing without big boys in the middle.

I had no expectations that Nebraska’s O-line would be good in 2019. But there was genuine hope that the defensive front seven would be better equipped to handle the weekly Big Ten grind. Based on Ohio State and Minnesota, the Blackshirts aren’t ready, either.

Frost has time to fix all of this. And even if he goes 0-5 the rest of the way, his fans will find reasons to get fired up for 2020. But this season does raise concerns.

For two years, Frost’s word carried a ton of weight. He knew the path back to national prominence and he knew the timeline. Now there’s a little bit of doubt.

You can tell when a coach — in Year 1, especially — knows his team isn’t any good. You feel for him. But sympathy turns to skepticism when a coach thinks his team is better than it really is. When his results don’t look much different from the coach he replaced and the culture he criticized.

Husker fans can stomach a few setbacks on the road to recovery. They can even endure a wasted season. As long as they can trust that Frost’s words are true.
 
Yeah baby, ALLLL the old feelings are back! Players tweeting at fans, fans calling for kids to get benched, message boards saying Dirk hates the coach, it's all here! Welcome back, 2014!!!

What do you want him to write, a bunch of lies? Write about how Brody Belt made some nice runs in garbage time? Scott said all those things. The facts are the facts about losing ugly to Minnesota. The OL is horrible. The WRs don't seem to get open. Their JUCO back who they needed to be a hammer basically lost his job to a true freshman they brought in to play WR.

Scott's mouth has a pattern of writing checks his kids can't cash through two years. I think he's catching a lesson in why T.O. was a real quiet guy who could coachspeak with the best of em.
 
The good and the bad to this is Good: Frost says what he feels and lets you know his opinion. BAD: What he felt about his team and his opinion about his team were wrong. Dudes with a bit of an ego, they have a hard time backtracking from from what they say and sometimes that gets them in deeper.
 
Yeah baby, ALLLL the old feelings are back! Players tweeting at fans, fans calling for kids to get benched, message boards saying Dirk hates the coach, it's all here! Welcome back, 2014!!!

What do you want him to write, a bunch of lies? Write about how Brody Belt made some nice runs in garbage time? Scott said all those things. The facts are the facts about losing ugly to Minnesota. The OL is horrible. The WRs don't seem to get open. Their JUCO back who they needed to be a hammer basically lost his job to a true freshman they brought in to play WR.

Scott's mouth has a pattern of writing checks his kids can't cash through two years. I think he's catching a lesson in why T.O. was a real quiet guy who could coachspeak with the best of em.
I didn't say that Dirk hates the coach, nor did I say that I disagree with what he wrote. Just an observation that the Frost honeymoon appears to be officially over with at least one of the sports writers.
 
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If that's the worst "shot" Frost absorbs this week, he has a charmed life.

I don't think heads need to explode over how the team has performed this year, but also no need to sugar-coat it. Article seems fair to me.
 
It wouldve been better had it been Dirks idea. He basically took Wolken from USA Today's article and rewrote it.
 
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The most inane article I have read in a while. The entire design is to stir shit up and get people riled up to read more articles. He could give a rat’s butt less about progress as long as he gets clicks.. that is the media model from CNN to Fox, give me something to read that I don’t have to think about regardless of use... thank goodness Frost has a long history of media and fans treating him like ass, as does his mentor Tom... this is the modern Frankie a London chant....
 
The most inane article I have read in a while. The entire design is to stir shit up and get people riled up to read more articles. He could give a rat’s butt less about progress as long as he gets clicks.. that is the media model from CNN to Fox, give me something to read that I don’t have to think about regardless of use... thank goodness Frost has a long history of media and fans treating him like ass, as does his mentor Tom... this is the modern Frankie a London chant....
Which part about the article wasn't true?
 
Seems pretty straight forward and basically mirrors what a lot of people have been saying this year.
 
The most inane article I have read in a while. The entire design is to stir shit up and get people riled up to read more articles. He could give a rat’s butt less about progress as long as he gets clicks.. that is the media model from CNN to Fox, give me something to read that I don’t have to think about regardless of use... thank goodness Frost has a long history of media and fans treating him like ass, as does his mentor Tom... this is the modern Frankie a London chant....

Weird response.
 
finally.. been waiting for the media to quit being scared..

Scott is the kind of guy who responds to pressure well.

Glad to see the media finally start doing its part to hold the coach accountable for our program.
 
No issue with the article. Scott actually came out and said all these things. The school pays our staff and Frost a lot of money to perform, in which 8-11 record is very dissapointing. I honestly can't find a single area that we are better at than last year. Maybe the D-line with the addition of Darrion but that's it. We just have to get to work and get to the magical number 6. Anything more than that is cherry on a cake.
 
What's the problem with this article? Seems like he's just defending the media from the crazy crime of... talking about Frost's own quotes throughout the offseason? People have been going off about how the media misled them into thinking NU would be good this year and he's just saying basically, we didn't make that up out of thin air we were reporting on the coach's own lofty quotes. Not a big deal at all in my opinion.
 
Man how quickly we have forgotten.

October 7, 2017 - October 15, 2018 Nebraska was 1-13 with that one win being 25-24 over Purdue. A point away from losing 14 straight.

Since then they're 8-5.

Guys, Nebraska sucked ass when Scott took over and they didn't get handed 50 better players when he unpacked his suitcase. We weren't average or a little below average, we were one of the worst teams in the country, period. You don't recover from that overnight in a P5 conference.

With a team this young and short on depth it looks real ugly and confusing sometimes. Learning doesn't look like a straight line that goes steadily up, it's peaks and valleys of flashes and f-ups.

Defense has saved their ass in several games this year and you idiots want Chinander's head on a pike next to Brook's statue. Get serious. Who's the NFL talent on that defense? Two guys tops.
 
Dirk: Don't blame us media for this, we didn't say this stuff, we just report the facts!

Also Dirk: Moos is a huge drunk and is passing out at Lincoln bars, I know that no one has said that or has proof but you should just believe us.
Jesus, this crap again. Let's do go another 5 pages of "that was old information long before it hit the papers" vs "nuh-uh and so what I don't care even if he is a drunk."
 
Wouldn't Frost's quotes be talking about next year?
 
Which part about the article wasn't true?
How about journalistic integrity and showing all the examples where Scott said we have a long ways to go, or we are nowhere near where we want to be, or we are thin and can't absorb many injuries, or our good players are young, or we are going to fix this but it will take time, he didn't expect so much attrition, Or there was a lot more to clean up at Nu than at UCF. He is confident but has been pretty clear that the team is garbage and has been garbage, he brought in some very talented players but is still at the mercy of the 2016, 2017 classes for most of his depth.
 
Well.....technically Scott was right, the team W/L wise is better than last year....so far. But it definately looks worse now than the end of last season.
 
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Man how quickly we have forgotten.

October 7, 2017 - October 15, 2018 Nebraska was 1-13 with that one win being 25-24 over Purdue. A point away from losing 14 straight.

Since then they're 8-5.

Guys, Nebraska sucked ass when Scott took over and they didn't get handed 50 better players when he unpacked his suitcase. We weren't average or a little below average, we were one of the worst teams in the country, period. You don't recover from that overnight in a P5 conference.

With a team this young and short on depth it looks real ugly and confusing sometimes. Learning doesn't look like a straight line that goes steadily up, it's peaks and valleys of flashes and f-ups.

Defense has saved their ass in several games this year and you idiots want Chinander's head on a pike next to Brook's statue. Get serious. Who's the NFL talent on that defense? Two guys tops.

We are really not that young. Stop with the Bob Dylan soundtrack “Forever young”
Look at all the starts along the defensive line, linebackers, corner backs, left and right tackle of our offensive line, right guard
I’ve been on the road and I’ve seen Wisconsin start redshirt freshman on their offensive line and they don’t miss a beat
They currently have younger offensive lineman starting than we do, they have two RS sophomores and they are straight up handling people
Frost defended Duval at the last press conference
No doubt the culture is still being built but credibility only goes so far as what are the results on the field versus your BIG peers especially
Take a look at Minnesota’s “young” offensive line. They did OK this past Saturday
 
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Frost needs to go back and watch some of Frank's and Tom's old press conferences to learn how to set the bar. People have ridiculed Frank's "they moved around well" comments for years but in this wacky football fixated state you have to be very careful about your choice of words. He'll figure it out.
 
Seems pretty true and straightforward to me. Some people are uncomfortable with that. HCSF is the 2nd highest paid coach in the conference. A person then needs to ask, "Is NU the 2nd best coached team in the conference?" At this point, my answer would be "no."
 
Man how quickly we have forgotten.

October 7, 2017 - October 15, 2018 Nebraska was 1-13 with that one win being 25-24 over Purdue. A point away from losing 14 straight.

Since then they're 8-5.

Guys, Nebraska sucked ass when Scott took over and they didn't get handed 50 better players when he unpacked his suitcase. We weren't average or a little below average, we were one of the worst teams in the country, period. You don't recover from that overnight in a P5 conference.

With a team this young and short on depth it looks real ugly and confusing sometimes. Learning doesn't look like a straight line that goes steadily up, it's peaks and valleys of flashes and f-ups.

Defense has saved their ass in several games this year and you idiots want Chinander's head on a pike next to Brook's statue. Get serious. Who's the NFL talent on that defense? Two guys tops.

Wow......excellent post Beav! Damn straight......

But are you sure he didn't get 50 better players when SF unpacked his suitcase?? Lol!! Laughing
 
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Seems pretty true and straightforward to me. Some people are uncomfortable with that. HCSF is the 2nd highest paid coach in the conference. A person then needs to ask, "Is NU the 2nd best coached team in the conference?" At this point, my answer would be "no."

You are not paid what you are "worth" you are paid what you can command.
 
Man how quickly we have forgotten.

October 7, 2017 - October 15, 2018 Nebraska was 1-13 with that one win being 25-24 over Purdue. A point away from losing 14 straight.

Since then they're 8-5.

Guys, Nebraska sucked ass when Scott took over and they didn't get handed 50 better players when he unpacked his suitcase. We weren't average or a little below average, we were one of the worst teams in the country, period. You don't recover from that overnight in a P5 conference.

With a team this young and short on depth it looks real ugly and confusing sometimes. Learning doesn't look like a straight line that goes steadily up, it's peaks and valleys of flashes and f-ups.

Defense has saved their ass in several games this year and you idiots want Chinander's head on a pike next to Brook's statue. Get serious. Who's the NFL talent on that defense? Two guys tops.
I think what's frustrating is that we look way worse this year than last. Many thought Frost would coach these bad players up to at least be respectable, but it's looking like anyone could have these same results.
 
We are really not that young. Stop with the Bob Dylan soundtrack “Forever young”
Look at all the starts along the defensive line, linebackers, corner backs, left and right tackle of our offensive line, right guard
I’ve been on the road and I’ve seen Wisconsin start redshirt freshman on their offensive line and they don’t miss a beat
They currently have younger offensive lineman starting than we do, they have two RS sophomores and they are straight up handling people
Frost defended Duval at the last press conference
No doubt the culture is still being built but credibility only goes so far as what are the results on the field versus your BIG peers especially
Take a look at Minnesota’s “young” offensive line. They did OK this past Saturday
Yeah, youth is just an excuse. Even take a look at CU. They have a younger team than us and manged to do ok vs us. I agree young is a factor but not as large as many want to believe. There are other issues going on besides just youth.
 
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